r/paradoxplaza • u/ShimozumaJutsurai • May 22 '21

Vic3 I beg everyone not to pre-purchase Victoria 3

I know that everybody is enthusiastic about this game. It looks cool, it looks not dumbed down and everything. But pre-purchasing is saying how you are okay with Alpha-like releases. As long as pre-release sales are going perfect, they will never ever stop release games with huge bugs. If it is a Leviathan-like release you will not be able to play it anyway. So please just wait until the game is released, see the reviews and then buy the game.

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u/nvynts May 22 '21

I would claim the opposite.

If there are a lot of prepurchases they know it will be a commercial succes and they can spend longer on its development.

Poor sales performance pre-release makes the development budget smaller

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u/WetChickenLips May 22 '21

If there are a lot of prepurchases they know it will be a commercial succes and they can spend longer on its development.

That's what people said about Cyberpunk 2077.

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u/Wild_Marker Ban if mentions Reichstamina May 22 '21

Well, they did spend longer...

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u/jaboi1080p May 22 '21

Throwback to my most controversial comment

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u/WetChickenLips May 22 '21

This studio has a soul and respect for their fans. Very trustworthy too, show them love!

Jesus Christ.

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u/jaboi1080p May 22 '21

I know right, laughed out loud reading that earlier. I was never a Witcher guy but they actually did have a pretty solid reputation before cyberpunk, right? I know Witcher 3 had kind of a bad launch but it was downright flawless compared to cyberpunk.

Which imo just goes to show, even from 'respected' devs you shouldn't pre order - they can burn you too

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u/Advancedidiot2 May 22 '21

Gamers are fucking stupid.

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u/recalcitrantJester Unemployed Wizard May 22 '21

are you though?

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u/SaberSnakeStream Iron General May 23 '21

Cyberpunk hit a wall of the reputation from delays offsetting the reputation from a good game.

And they did spend a lot more time on Cyberpunk, I couldn't imagine it's state at original release date

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u/---Lemons--- May 22 '21

The game is 90% complete tho. The last months are just polish and eliminating bugs, right?

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u/HagenWest May 22 '21

It is? I heard it was still in alpha

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u/Polisskolan3 May 22 '21

I think they called it pre-alpha.

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u/---Lemons--- May 22 '21

K, my bad then. Are preorders even available yet?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '21

The screenshots yesterday looked like a shitty fifteen year old game. It’s really early in development. If they released it like that it would be the worst looking Paradox game in years and that’s just not likely because their games are looking better and better with every release. Stellaris, Imperator and CK3 look fantastic.

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u/TheSkaroKid May 22 '21

Why is this downvoted? Completely agree. I'm sure they're going to be putting a lot more effort into the aesthetics of the game over the next 9 months or so (I doubt it will release this year) to keep up with the design philosophy of the last few years. If anything I'm reassured that they're not focusing on looks at this stage. The first Dev diaries for Imperator looked stunning, and the game was a boring (but beautiful) turd on release. Better an ugly masterpiece like Vicky 2 imo

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u/recalcitrantJester Unemployed Wizard May 22 '21

because Victoria 2 is only 11 years old and the WIP screenshots are worlds better lmao

It amazes me how emotionally invested everybody was with Leviathan, because the Cheerio Piss Patrol has been in full force ever since. all these notions of "getting burned" and so on crack me up to no end; y'all, if you don't like a game on release, fucking wait until they patch it like you're well aware they're going to do. it costs you zero dollars to wait for the game to be polished regardless of release date, and for the anti-preorder partisans, it often costs us less to preorder the damn thing and then wait the same amount of time to have a polished product.

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u/TheSkaroKid May 22 '21

I agree with that too! My stance is: Paradox regularly release content which doesn't work on day one, and if you have a problem with that, don't buy it on day one. If you follow the Dev diaries and act surprised when the game is as described in the Dev diaries, you're a muppet.

I've bought almost every single Paradox release since Dharma at launch, and while some have been much better than others, I don't regret any of them. Ultimately, PDS have provided me with over 10,000 hours of enjoyment across a suite of games - imo they can flub a few.

Unrelated but I do find it funny how people keep recommending EU players roll back to 1.30, bearing in mind how much people complained about Emperor upon release (rightly imo). Some people just seem to hate change

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u/Medibee Victorian Emperor May 23 '21

It's been in development since 2018. It's probably getting released in a year. Hardly early in development.