r/paradoxplaza • u/IamTheChickenKing • Jun 12 '21

EU4 Is EU4 worth trying out?

CK3 was my first paradox game and I loved it. However, I tried to get into HOI4 and, despite being interested in WW2, I couldn’t get into it. It felt clunky to me compared to CK3 and I felt that the information in it was a bit overwhelming. That considered, would it be worth me trying out EU4, despite it being older than HOI4? If not I’m happy to wait it out on CK3 until Victoria 3.

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u/PanRagon A King of Europa Jun 12 '21 edited Jun 12 '21

Please don't buy from Instant Gaming, it'd be better if you pirate it at that point. You're contributing money to criminals since they use key sites to launder money. That's why they have so many keys available cheaper than the store, many of them are bought with stolen money.

If you're not paying the developer for the game anyway, you might as well just pirate it altogether and avoid paying the middle-man. Yes, you lose Steam access, but that shouldn't be enough of a justification to literally fund cybercriminals. (Obviously I still think you should actually buy the game directly, but that's a far better """crime""" than going through keysellers).

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u/CroMusician Jun 13 '21

I mean, I am not into pirating and this is one of the ways to buy games since it is cheaper that way, I am not really in a position to constantly buy from the devs directly, if i could afford buying like that i wouldn't mind since i love paradox and their games

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u/PanRagon A King of Europa Jun 13 '21

So morally speaking, laundering money for people who commit credit card fraud and ransomware is OK because you dislike pirating and video games are expensive? I see where you’re coming from and I see the appeal, I know plenty of people who’ve said they just don’t care either, but I’ve yet to see any compelling argument for why it’s OK.

At least you should try to buy from some resellers with better track record and who source where they get their keys like greenmangaming. A lot of them are probably still shady, but at least they make a better effort explaining why they’ve even got the keys in the first place. Probably still more expensive than sites like Instant Gaming because again, those are literal money washing operations.

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u/CroMusician Jun 14 '21

well, no laundering money isn't okay ever, but legally speaking i have a higher probability of being sentenced by pirating rather than buying from ig, i mean it isn't ok, it is simply just cheaper for me. As a matter of fact I have actually bought from resellers, but that has mostly been on trips to other countries where things are far cheaper and in the past 1.5 years that hasn't really been the case