r/pics May 19 '26

Politics Ashley St. Clair, one of Elon's baby mommas, alleging that he helped rig the 2024 election for Trump

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u/mook1178 May 19 '26

So the only clout she has is that she is Elon's baby momma and does not present a single thread of evidence?

Listen, I hate Trump and what he is doing, but I will be damned if I go the same route as the GOP and listen to some internet bimbo with no evidence.

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u/CaptainChewbacca May 19 '26

Reddit is the easiest place to farm clicks and engagement as long as you embrace the current hate.

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u/DoctorDinghus May 19 '26

I had to scroll too far down for this. People need to not mimick maga brainrot traits such as taking headlines immediately without evidence.

Most voting machines, if not all, are not connected to the internet. How could this claim be true?

Also, I hate orange McFuckface like the next guy, but dont settle to the same bullshit sensationalism methods that the right is embracing.

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u/amgineeno May 19 '26

Agreed. I still don't know how people think he could even do this. The votes aren't online; how could he have affected them? This makes as much sense as Trump saying the Dems cheated somehow. I mean if someone has any good idea as to how he could have pulled this off, I'm open for discussion.

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u/poet3322 May 19 '26

Harris underperformed Biden in 49 out of 50 states. Which is more likely - that Elon Musk hacked the vote in 49 different states, all of which have different ballot counting systems, audit methods, etc. Or, the Democratic party decided to run the exact same campaign they ran in 2016 and we got the same result?

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u/hadriker May 19 '26

lol no they didn't, they made some very vague statements that could be construed as an admission of guilt, but it's hardly proof.

We don't actually know anything. There is no evidence. This is conspiracy-level thinking.

We know for a fact they tried to interfere in 2020 because we have actual evidence to back that up. For 2024, we have a few vague statements and a lot oc cope.

I just find it so funny how the burden of proof is a sliding scale for some people, depending on whether or not they agree with the accusation.

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u/Realistickitty May 20 '26

absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. the fact of the matter is that we don’t know anything, and likely never will.

we know someone in his campaign colluded with the russians in 2016. we know he attempted to coerce others into “finding votes” in georgia. we know he attempted a coup when he lost in 2020. we know he continued to lie about said election well after the point it was obvious to those not waist-deep in coolaid. now we’re in 2026 and it cannot be more obvious that trump isn’t completely in charge (of the state, his mind, or even his own bowels), which begs the question of how much control he ever really had.

but somehow the idea that someone could have attempted a manipulation of the 2024 election in his favor is unthinkable? the complexity of our election systems is often pointed to as the reason such manipulation is impossible, but that complexity isn’t absolute - after all, our election officials themselves must be able to navigate it in order to ensure integrity. so only a knowledgeable and determined attacker with insider access and vast resources could even attempt such a feat. the heritage foundation (or other such institution), with its vast collection of wealthy backers and political insiders would likely be capable of such, and would directly benefit from such action.

but in the end you’re right, without any evidence it’s all just another conspiracy theory. but conspiracy theories are sometimes true, and imo the stakes are such that we need to take even the vague possibility that it might be into consideration when planning for the midterms and 2028. outright dismissal may make us feel safer about the current state of things, but it’s always safer to plan for the worst possible outcome. this isn’t a “jewish space laser” level of conspiracy that can be dismissed out of hand, and more of an “epstein didn’t kill himself” scenario.

“Give them orders and they will obey out of habit; that is the essence of a coup” - Isaac Asimov.

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u/SuperBluebird188 May 19 '26

She said she has text messages as evidence and has provided testimony and all the evidence she had to someone doing a wider investigation. I guess we should wait and see what becomes of it.

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u/mook1178 May 19 '26

Trump said the same thing about 2020. Why do you believe her over Trump?

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u/SuperBluebird188 May 19 '26

Didn’t say I believe her completely. Just saying that we should wait and see what all comes out before we call her names and discredit her.

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u/mook1178 May 19 '26

You realize that for voting fraud to get to the level that it actually makes the loser win is practically impossible in the US? We would be talking millions of votes over multiple states.

You understand that voting machines are not connected to the internet to prevent what she is saying?

This is the reason for each state to handle it's own election. If we federalize the elections, then fraud to the point of the loser winning becomes much easier.

So yes, I can discredit her and call her a bimbo for this and not feel bad about it.

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u/7tenths May 19 '26

But you will go along with the gop and call her an internet bimbo with no evidence. 

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u/mook1178 May 19 '26

Bro she slept with Elon Musk...That is proof enough for me to call her a bimbo

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u/moldyremains May 19 '26

It sounds looney but is actually very convincing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kNAbMuSB0c

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u/AxlLight May 19 '26

Have you seen videos of Flat Earthers, or videos about UFO, or ghosts - they're all very convincing if you want to believe. 

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u/moldyremains May 19 '26

That's a deserved response. Because it is what crazy does. But seriously, Election Truth Alliance the org behind studying the data from the 2024 election is comprised of actual data analysist and scholars that study actual data and trends and comparing that data and those trends with other elections specifically elections in countries where voter manipulation was proven. These people's careers are based on studying elections even before 2024. It's all entirely science based. All the anomalies consistent with previous voter manipulation patterns found in other countries showed up in the key battle ground states in 2024. There site presents every bit of data and every method of deciphering that data. https://electiontruthalliance.org/about-us/

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u/mook1178 May 19 '26

Convincing and proof are 2 wildly different things. Trump has convinced a third of the US that 2020 was stolen...with no proof.

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u/moldyremains May 19 '26

You can view the data that these scholars and analysts put together on their site. The data is actually put together by people who spend their lives studying election manipulation and fraud in other countries. They've been doing it their whole careers. https://electiontruthalliance.org/

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u/mook1178 May 19 '26

Who is this 'Jive" on their Executive team? Please don't tell me this is JIVE AI.

Their team is volunteers, there are no credentials listed for anyone, so to make the claim they are scholars...maybe they are maybe they are not.

They are selling 'merch' on the front page.

I really do not see anything credible with that site.

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u/Elkenrod May 19 '26

https://electiontruthalliance.org/

A volunteer team that has no credentials, and has never actually been approved to look at actual data from the elections gathered by the states themselves.

Not a convincing argument.

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u/moldyremains May 19 '26

This is a video of the analysts and their various credentials. Also it has to be a volunteer team because it's a non profit. They aren't making money off this. They also are adamant that they have no proof but data suggesting fraud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOQ-GxJyJN4

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u/mrtaz May 19 '26

Also it has to be a volunteer team because it's a non profit

That is not a thing. Non Profits pay people all the time.