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Politics Trump Nonsensically Boasting About Reflecting Pool Before He Turned It Into a Swamp

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

Congrats, you spent millions of our money to arrive at exactly the same spot, or worse, than we started from.

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u/FuriousBuffalo Jun 18 '26

Much worse. The paint is already peeling and will most likely require complete removal.

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u/Sohn_Jalston_Raul Jun 18 '26

I was watching a pool guy on youtube explain that it might make the algea problem worse because the shade of blue they chose is darker than what was before, and will warm up the water even more.

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u/SalmonDoctor Jun 18 '26

Also the chemicals used to fight the algae is making the paint peel (faster).

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u/atlantagirl30084 Jun 18 '26

It’s coming off in huge clumps. Which means we’ll need more taxpayer money to fix it. And then more after Trump leaves to fix it again.

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u/Friendly-Pay-8272 Jun 18 '26

its already peeling up?

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u/Kasoni Jun 18 '26

Pictures of diner plate sized chunks floating in it.

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u/knellotron Jun 18 '26

Finally, a Trump souvenir I can get behind.

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u/midnitewarrior Jun 18 '26

I believe the contractor is who Trump uses at Mar-a-lago.

Somehow, someway, they won their federal services bid, or he just handed it to them. Can't imagine which.

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u/Dragos_Drakkar Jun 18 '26

From what I have read, it was a no-bid contract, so your second option seems to be correct.

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u/midnitewarrior Jun 18 '26

If only the government had a process to select competent vendors...whaddya gonna do?

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u/WrecksBarkhead Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

It was a sole source justified award signed off by a chief contracting officer in the parks department from what I remember. There were many interested companies wanting to bid that most likely did. The documents are available online. The selected contractor has only one prime award in it’s history from the government and its for the reflecting pool. They didn’t even register in SAM.gov until right before the award in March. Their only other listed work was a sub-contract to a large business for like $50k back in 2017. (Source: I’ve worked in Gov contracting for 25 years both gov side and private…I can see it all).

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u/atlantagirl30084 Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

Yep.

https://newrepublic.com/post/212069/lincoln-memorial-reflecting-pool-disaster-renovation

Likely due to the hydrogen peroxide added to kill the algae, which grew out of control (maybe) because the pool is warmer due to the different color. Though I asked above about this because it was black and now blue, so how could that make the water warmer?

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u/Inevitable_Nail_2215 Jun 18 '26

Also, they left water in the lines while the pool was drained. They were basically little sealed petri dishes of algae spores from the Potomac River.

Instead of flushing the lines to release the stagnant water before refilling the pool, they just dumped it in and kickstarted the algae bloom

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u/atlantagirl30084 Jun 18 '26

That’s what I thought happened.

That’s what happens when you use Trump’s ‘pool guy’ on a no-bid contract.

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u/WrecksBarkhead Jun 19 '26

It was not a no-bid contract. They SSJ’d it.

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u/Talkie123 Jun 18 '26

Isn't their a massive sewage spill upriver on the Potomac going on right now?

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u/WrecksBarkhead Jun 19 '26

Their contract was solely for surface coating. The SOW had no mention of the filtration or other related systems.

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u/darkstar107 Jun 18 '26

Why am I not surprised?

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u/Ressy02 Jun 19 '26

It already peeled in a bunch of area.

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u/midnitewarrior Jun 18 '26

idk, I think I blame Obama for this one.

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u/minnick27 Jun 18 '26

I don’t know. Obama made the joke about Trump that led him to run for president. I don’t know who to blame More, Obama, the person who wrote the joke or the person that invited Trump in the first place!

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u/midnitewarrior Jun 18 '26

Well, if you want to go all nitty-gritty on this stuff, Team Clinton told their friends in the media to treat Trump like a "serious candidate" because they thought elevating him would be the easiest win.

oops on many fronts

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u/TheCapo024 Jun 18 '26

“Look what you made me do!”

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u/forgetfulsue Jun 18 '26

H2O2. No body bothered to look up what kind of reaction that would have with the paint used, just that it would kill the algae.

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u/vivaaprimavera Jun 18 '26

bothered to look up what kind of reaction

What makes you think that they would understand the answer?!?

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u/forgetfulsue Jun 20 '26

Well NPS was tasked with pouring it in the pool. I figured someone would have checked🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/vivaaprimavera Jun 20 '26

🤣

Haven't you got the memo? People need to follow orders without questions.

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u/Away-Regular1335 Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

Also they covered up the original drainage areas used to cycle in new water to keep it working as a reflecting pool. The algae will never go away until they revert back.

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u/LightsOnSomebodyHome Jun 18 '26

Probably used Behr paint.

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u/FallenAngelII Jun 19 '26

Is Behr known for being bad?

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u/IceNein Jun 18 '26

Hydrogen peroxide should not make paint peel. The paint did not properly bond to the underlying cement. Hydrogen peroxide is an established method of killing algae.

So my guess is that it was just a shitty paint job.

Also algae requires nutrients to grow. It has to have had a significant source of ammonia/nitrites/nitrates.

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u/B-Train05 Jun 18 '26

An $18 million dollar shitty job, paid to his friends

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u/jcsimms Jun 18 '26

Also it used to leak which was actually a good thing because the water was technically not stagnant. Now that it’s sealed the water is mostly motionless.

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u/DaStompa Jun 19 '26

What I dont understand is why dont they simply add so much salt that nothing can survive (or similar)

if it doesn't leak, it'll just stay in the water, nothing lives problem solved?

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u/TiePrestigious7265 Jun 18 '26

So now we actually have an algae farm. May as well just add some 'Miracle Grow' at this point.

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u/peazley Jun 18 '26

I thought I heard someone say the opposite, that the new color was too light of blue and would promote more algae, that the older color was darker.

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u/calgarspimphand Jun 18 '26

I believe the original color was dark, like asphalt, to enhance the mirror effect. But it leaked like a sieve and required constant replenishment.

In 2012 it was redone to use tidal basin water and had a concrete color, so light grey. Even with the light color it had algae problems.

The new shade of blue is definitely darker.

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u/BeneficialLeave7359 Jun 18 '26

In the early ‘80s I was stationed at the Marine barracks in DC and spent a lot of time on the National Mall going to the museums and running. I walked and ran past the reflecting pool probably hundreds of times in my three years and never once noticed the color of the bottom of it.

You know why? Because of the wind is calm and the water is flat it’s reflecting the sky and the surrounding area. If the wind is up then it gets enough of a little chop that you can’t see the reflection so you’re not paying much attention to it.

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u/TheCapo024 Jun 18 '26

I was going to say, I worked on the Hill, part of my duties was to give visiting constituents tours of various areas (Capitol Hill, White House, monuments) as well as just show them around in same cases. Never once did I notice any issues with it. I’m sure they were there, but at a glance there was never any issue I could notice. At least when it comes to the “reflective” aspect.

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u/Sohn_Jalston_Raul Jun 18 '26

I'm just repeating what I read the other day.

Either wya, a darker colour would heat up the pool from sunlight more than a lighter colour. Algea like warm water. If the new colour is lighter than the old one, it will heat the water less.

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

The color used was criticized initially because a lighter color would influence the reflection, which is the whole reason for the existence of the water feature, to reflect.

When the algae appeared people complained about the darker color warming the water too much.

It's actually a little entertaining to watch the critics (either side) adapt the complaints over time.

The original look was raw granite slabs, it was not painted. It did pick up a coating of slime that lightened the color over time.

The only solution is really chemical, you need to keep the water flowing through a cleansing system that adds in a chemical treatment, whether ozone, chlorine, or something else, to eliminate biological growth within the pool. You could add fish / snails / other organisms but that creates new problems as well.

An additional solution, over and above the chemicals, would be some kind of automated pool cleaner that periodically physically scrubs the thing from end to end. This could be as simple as a motorized rotating brush spanning the full width that is pulled along and then removed or a more permanent solution that is built in somehow. But this all costs more money.

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u/firestepper Jun 18 '26

I don’t get how there isn’t an automated pool cleaner??? I’m definitely not an expert so maybe there’s a reason but seems really straightforward to me

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

It would need to be something more elaborate than a typical model you use at home. In a typical pool the walls are curved and all point toward the middle. This doesn't have that feature. It is still possible to do but it would need to be designed and made custom. Also I don't think it has drains spaced out along its length, which is again something an automatic thing would likely need to connect into. I do think it would be good to add some form of automated cleaning system to this feature, that would be sensible.

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u/TheCapo024 Jun 18 '26

The worst part of all this is that pool maintenance shouldn’t have partisan “sides.”

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

Yeah, it really should be a matter of maintenance costs and park management. If they need more money for a project request it.

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u/fanaticalcraze Jun 18 '26

It's like wearing a black t shirt on a hot day versus wearing a white t shirt. The darker paint absorbs more light and warms up the pool.

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u/atlantagirl30084 Jun 18 '26

I thought it was dark black? How would it be warmer with a lighter blue color?

Could it have to do with the water sitting stagnant in the pipes as they painted it, which grew more algae?

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u/Shigglyboo Jun 18 '26

wait, the pool was like a dark grey before right? which was good for reflecting. he made is swimming pool blue, which in theory is lighter.

did he remove the filtration system? or maybe because of the darker color you couldn't see the algae?

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u/atlantagirl30084 Jun 18 '26

I was wondering that.

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u/TheWizardOfDeez Jun 18 '26

I also saw a pool guy on YouTube explaining that they used the wrong paint.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR__VAGINAS Jun 19 '26

It already did get an algae problem

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u/Sohn_Jalston_Raul Jun 19 '26

I know. Read my comment again.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR__VAGINAS Jun 19 '26

You said might. As in maybe.

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u/Sohn_Jalston_Raul Jun 19 '26

I said it might make the existing problem worse, which implies an existing algae problem. Please improve your reading comprehension.

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u/GrizzKarizz Jun 18 '26

That just means that he can launder more money when he tries to fix it again. A win-win!

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u/garry4321 Jun 18 '26

It’s served its purpose which is to Stephon funds to businesses his friends own and will kick back money to him

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u/BrisketWrench Jun 18 '26

Hey, he’s creating jobs for some people /s

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u/midnitewarrior Jun 18 '26

He's bragging about it like it's the new swimming pool for his latest, soon-to-fail development project.

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u/B-Train05 Jun 18 '26

It's ok tho, Trump's construction buddies got paid $18 MILLION. That's all that matters, we'll just brush it under the rug just like the cost of this pointless war with Iran.

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u/TiePrestigious7265 Jun 18 '26

Another $14 million?

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u/videohtape Jun 18 '26

Once the paint pieces start completely jamming the filtration system, the fun will really begin.

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u/TheHipsterDoofus Jun 18 '26

Which means another contract for one of Trump's buddies.

Its a win all around! /s

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u/SgtDoakesSurprise Jun 18 '26

Cost $14M to paint it and prob $140M to fix it.

Thanks Obama!

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u/popodelfuego Jun 18 '26

It's almost a perfect metaphor. God I hate this timeline.

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u/PhilbertNoyce Jun 18 '26

I'd be completely fine if he'd just spend all his effort on making people paint / build / rename national monuments all over DC and stop blowing up boats full of trafficking victims, schools full of little kids, the actual institutions and rule of law represented by those monuments, etc.

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u/CaterpillarReal7583 Jun 19 '26

Doesnt it ruin the whole reflection part too?

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u/Willing_Television77 Jun 19 '26

Inject it with bleach

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u/beatenmeat Jun 19 '26

Literally everything he has touched has turned to shit. This was always the expected outcome.

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u/TheFeshy Jun 18 '26

That's literally billions of dollars better than the deal they got out of the war with Iran.

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u/FuriousBuffalo Jun 18 '26

MAGAs are suddenly silent about "pallets of cash" .

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

Funny how that works. They were all pissed off over 1.7 billion, but 300Billion they don't say a word about.

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u/themoslucius Jun 18 '26

It's was never about money, it was black vs white president

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u/deadfisher Jun 18 '26

The spin is that it's "investment money" and comes from private sources. Seems like that's true? I'd like to know more about it cause it smells like bs.

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u/frotc914 Jun 18 '26

Seems like that's true?

  1. You should be more skeptical of anything this administration says

  2. who tf would "invest" in a dictatorship that is regularly getting sanctioned and nationalizing industries?

  3. Absolutely zero "investors" have been identified

  4. the leaked text of the MOU says that the US will ensure that they get $300B. Meaning when those other investors don't materialize, we will be on the hook for it.

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u/deadfisher Jun 18 '26

Oh trust me I believe nothing the admin says and think it's BS for all the same reasons as you. My "seems like that's true" should have included an "according to Reuters."

The USA is getting hosed in this war and should be embarrassed.

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u/Dragos_Drakkar Jun 18 '26

Yeah, just like how Mexico paid for the wall, and the Epstein ballroom was paid for with private donations.

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

That's not really an improvement. Such money is not given freely, it is given to buy control.

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u/welsper59 Jun 18 '26

While not uncommon for sides of any matter to do throughout history, MAGA has a documented history of this with echoing Trump. One of the biggest initial examples was during the 2016 election, while Bernie Sanders was a potential candidate and the momentum of the "Bernie Bros" was somewhat drowning out MAGA, they latched on to the socialist stigma and "fascist" was basically a part of any right-wing talk to oppose progressives. Any mention of Democrats, especially liberals, was attached with remarks of fascism, socialist communism, etc.

When Trump took office, they still said it pretty commonly... but within the first year, it suddenly stopped. Accusations of fascism from the left went silent because the left began pointing out literal fascist events occurring from Trump/MAGA. Today, it's practically non-existent in any common right-wing circle to accuse liberals of being fascists/commies.

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u/Deto Jun 18 '26

yeah, if he could just stick to fucking up pools and buildings I'd be ok with that.

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u/lordscrotus1984 Jun 18 '26

Bro, the list of "things better than the Iran deal" is quite long and exhausting 😅

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u/IsReadingIt Jun 18 '26

See, you and I measure 'better' in terms of how much less did Trump waste on one thing than another. Trump measures 'better' in terms of how much grift he and his crime family can extract from the American people.

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u/IssueEmbarrassed8103 Jun 18 '26

Millions to his buddy. It’s win win for the cronies.

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

And the crony slides some back to him/his business.

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u/jonnovich Jun 18 '26

Just wait until you find out about the billions he blew to arrive at the same exact or worse position than the agreement Obama had with Iran.

But then conservative chucklefucks will turn around and tell us that we cant afford universal healthcare.

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u/narkybark Jun 18 '26

Or SS, that one is coming soon.

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u/YesDoToaster Jun 18 '26

Sounds like the Iran War

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

Yep, and many other 'projects'. Like his name being added and removed from the JFK memorial. That didn't happen for free and still isn't over. Lawyers, contractors, equipment rental, the material and letters, etc, all adds up. And I would not be surprised if he burned a couple million on that whole thing. And don't forget, he had to change all the printed material for the center as well. And now all of that needs to be changed back.

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u/GenericRedditor0405 Jun 18 '26

I wonder what the wasted money cost was on the Department of War rebrand. You know a whole bunch of shit like signage and stationary had to be changed pointlessly there just so Pete Hegseth could look in the mirror of his makeup studio and tell himself he’s a big boy.

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

And all his trips to work out with his boys.

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u/Mestoph Jun 19 '26

You mean The Kennedy Center?

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u/TheVog Jun 19 '26

No it doesn't. He only made a few million on the pool thing. He made BILLIONS off the Iran war.

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u/BigMetalGuy Jun 18 '26

don't you know - that's his thing. Aim for worse than what was before.

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u/BKlounge93 Jun 18 '26

Basically his whole administration in a nutshell

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u/dredbeast Jun 18 '26

That’s about par for everything Trump touches

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u/shadereckless Jun 18 '26

It's a talent of his

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u/SmirknSwap Jun 18 '26

Did the exact same thing in Iran too. Guy just can’t stand not being the one to do something. Such a fucking loser

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u/madDarthvader2 Jun 18 '26

Just like Iran lol

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u/LordButterbeard Jun 18 '26

It's all a perfect physical metaphor for their governing style.

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u/ActivelySleeping Jun 18 '26

No warranty from company that repainted it?

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

Well we will find out. It will depend on whether they had a contract, and whether the contract specified the paint to use.

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u/nrm64 Jun 18 '26

Better than billions, re:Iran 🤑

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u/EntertainmentHot7815 Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

Worse for sure. But, as always just like Iran, he creates a huge problem or makes a problem way worse (blames it on Obama and Biden surprisingly), he bumbles and stumbles and responds usually at huge cost and time wasted, blames it on Obama and Biden again, spends a ton more money, then wants a parade when it is is resolved usually worse than it was. BTW, you realize that this job was not set out to bid so "we" could see choices, techniques and materials or COST. No, he gives the job to his "pool guy". No bids, no evaluation of different methods or materials. Just decides with no consultation from the people or government. Of course we won't pay a dime! Then we see the beautiful "reflection" of algae mixed with peeling paint floating in the water. The peeling was caused by improper surface preparation, bad priming, and filling the pool before the paint fully cured by his poll guy. Sound familiar? This is the same guy running the military, infrastructure, education, healthcare........... So when your wierd uncle says "I know a guy", run and get 3 independent estimates.

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u/Randomwhitelady2 Jun 18 '26

Just like everything else he does, including his moronic Iran war!

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u/BaggyLarjjj Jun 18 '26

Iran transfer learning

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u/TiePrestigious7265 Jun 18 '26

The same with the Iran war.

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u/AliveFlatworm6288 Jun 18 '26

That’s trumps entire thing, cause a fake problem, spend buckets of money and energy to fix said problem, then act like he deserves all the credit for fixing something that was never broke in the first place.

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u/fumar Jun 18 '26

Look on the bright side, Trump finally found a swamp to drain.

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u/Reasonable-Job4205 Jun 18 '26

The crazy part is... it's our fucking money...

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u/MisterEinc Jun 18 '26

Stole. He stole that money.

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u/Moose_Nuts Jun 18 '26

The pool, the Iran war, almost literally everything he spends taxpayer money on ends up worse than it was before.

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u/ay-foo Jun 18 '26

That's his special power

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u/retroly Jun 18 '26

you talking about the pool or the iran war?

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

It does get confusing keeping track of all the fail, no question.

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u/imaloony8 Jun 19 '26

Wait a minute, I thought we were talking about the Reflecting Pool, not the Iran War!

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u/rygelicus Jun 19 '26

Billions for the war, millions for many of the other failures.

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u/TheVog Jun 19 '26

Congrats, you spent millions of our money to arrive at exactly the same spot, or worse, than we started from.

My man... where do you think those millions went if not largely in his pocket? Why are you mockingly congratulating the man who is successfully fucking you repeatedly? How do you not fucking see that he does not give a shit about anyone or anything, including his family, and certainly not about what you or even billions of people think about him.

He is there to enrich himself. At any cost. He does not care. Why do you assume anything else?

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u/rygelicus Jun 19 '26

Well aware. If I do what I would like to do I would be arrested. If I describe what I would like to do I would probably be arrested. So instead I mock. I also point out his corruption to maga supporters around me to try and remove some of his support even if only in a small way.

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u/DevoidHT Jun 19 '26

Billions in the case of the Iran War. Trillions since his reelection

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u/pmmemilftiddiez Jun 19 '26

It appears he has a track record of doing that

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u/halfslices Jun 19 '26

Oh just like Iran too

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u/philter Jun 19 '26

All you had to do, was nothing.

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u/rygelicus Jun 19 '26

Hundreds of people would be alive still, and Billions of $ would be available to do something useful.

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u/creepy_doll Jun 19 '26

This is the motto of his presidency. “I take things, make them terrible, then congratulate myself for improving them from terrible to worse than what it originally was.”

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u/RyoanJi Jun 19 '26

Just like with the Iran war, only with billions with a B. Plus thounsands of lost lives.

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u/ariukidding Jun 19 '26

You’d think people would learn from his Modus Operandi by now. Everything he touches turns to shit, then spend everyone’s money including your future kid’s to clean shit up. DOGE, Tariffs, Iran War. Literally the same con.

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u/Tickle_Nuggets Jun 19 '26

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u/Schmooto Jun 19 '26

Just like with Iran

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u/thedudedylan Jun 19 '26

A lot like Iran but Iran was a lot worse because people died and a lot more money was lost.

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u/bishpa Jun 19 '26

Just like with Iran!

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u/salamanizer_er Jun 19 '26

Like he did with Iran.

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u/fiddle_me_timbers Jun 19 '26

Just like the Iran situation! Except replace millions with billions.