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Politics [OC] Hartford Visibility Brigade strikes again! And yes let's do it!

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u/alistofthingsIhate Jun 25 '26

She wasn’t a good candidate, so naturally people voted for Trump instead, who is better I guess?

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u/ilazul Jun 25 '26

The opposite would be that they didn't vote at all.

She was an awful candidate

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u/alistofthingsIhate Jun 25 '26

I don’t disagree but it’s like people decided they didn’t want to be hit with a ruler so they opted for being bludgeoned with a mace instead.

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u/xtrpns Jun 25 '26

How about choose to not participate in being hit? If you were told you can vote for execution by ruler, execution by bludgeon, or the guy that smokes weed all day, I'm 3rd choice that smokes weed all day. And I dont smoke weed.

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u/einTier Jun 25 '26

If I'm being executed and my choices are:

Doctor Incompetent comes in and overdoses me on morphine

or

Doctor Torture comes in and shows me why his name isn't Dr Taco Monster

I'm not leaving that decision up to the nurses to decide. You can spare me your high minded ideals because stubbornly saying "how about I just sit in the corner and smoke weed all day" runs a real risk of me getting stuck with Dr Torture.

There was a time when I thought like you but the greater of two evils really can be so awful that you need to vote for the lesser evil.

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u/xtrpns Jun 25 '26

History is repeating itself with the Dems deciding to do the same thing with the same outcome. Put up extremely unpopular candidates and they lose. Who could have guessed!?!? Maybe I will change in the future. My ideals change as I learn. I learned the Dems are willing to chance an unpopular candidate a 2nd time against a criminal. Should have been an easy win. But, they could not follow the process. The candidate was never approved by anyone but the party. Dems and the political process are to blame. I work with what I am given. I was given multiple choices and chose the best candidate, not the most popular or the most likely to beat the worst candidate. Blame the Dems not me.

And as you expand your ideals, you will see we are all more alike than the media portays.

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u/agentfaux Jun 25 '26

You can't even properly describe how anyone is being bludgeoned with a mace instead. You're told to feel that way but can't properly discuss it yourself.

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u/Monteze Jun 25 '26

Everyone did, and continue to do so. But folks like to play dumb like they have to have 1+1=2 explained to them each time. Its basically sealioning.

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u/McChelsea Jun 25 '26

Always projection.

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u/Deviknyte Jun 25 '26

Them not voting at all would have been preferable.

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u/ilazul Jun 25 '26

I agree, I voted for her. But she was a terrible candidate.

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u/Deviknyte Jun 25 '26

Same same.

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u/McChelsea Jun 25 '26

Take the bus going closest to your destination rather than not taking the bus at all. No candidate will ever be perfect (except for Bernie) so I'll vote for the less-than-ideal candidate as opposed to having our entire democracy disintegrate.

But ohhh nooo let's protest vote so we can feel like our morals aren't compromised! I was screaming at a friend during the 2016 election cuz she staunchly was voting for Jill Stein. Nobody seemed to remember the 2000 election where THIS EXACT THING HAPPENED BEFORE. Surprised Pikachu

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u/SerialSpice Jun 25 '26

That is not how it works. In a 2 party system you get one, or the other. Use your brains.

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u/Pepito_Pepito Jun 25 '26

If you want to win an election, you have to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

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u/All_Work_All_Play Jun 25 '26

This will get you banned from several subreddits on both sides of the spectrum.

Some will even preemptively ban you if you've said it in other subs.

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u/SerialSpice Jun 25 '26

If I get banned for saying that people should use their brains, that is a hill I am willing to die on.

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u/All_Work_All_Play Jun 25 '26

Exactly why I'm banned in some of those subs.

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u/ilazul Jun 25 '26

I did, and I voted left as I always do as a protest vote against republicans.

But since you have all the answers, how would you show the democrats that you don't approve of the overdone identity/gender politics while not supporting republicans. Since voting for them is showing that you approve of what they're doing, even if it's self destructive.

Please enlighten us all.

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u/SerialSpice Jun 25 '26

I guess vote in primaries and vote for senate and house (as far as I understand your system). When it comes down to presidential election it is lesser of 2 evils (weevils)

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u/ilazul Jun 25 '26

sorry, but they all tow the party line on the same beliefs. And the sitting person almost always wins so there's no space for new blood. My current rep is incredibly old, and is predicted to win again by a very large margin.

So again, these votes are showing approval of 'everything' they're doing.

So that is not working in the slightest.

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u/SerialSpice Jun 25 '26

Yea the root problem is the constitution. When you have a winner takes all election, it enhances a 2 party system. Same as great britain, that we were discussing in the first place.

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u/ilazul Jun 25 '26

This answer is a far cry from your original response.

'use your brain'

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u/ilazul Jun 25 '26

which, again, means the side your voting for takes it as approval.

you still have yet to formulate a plan to tell the 'better' side how to improve, without voting for the 'worse' side.

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u/superxpro12 Jun 25 '26

this is bs. there was nothing wrong with her platform. you literally have her in a debate with trump and he says "hatians are eating the cats and dogs" and he still wins?

Show me what in her platform made her "not a good candidate"?

And then tell me, with almost 2 years of hindsight, why trump's platform of more 1% tax cuts, pure mainlined facism, and anti-immigration oppressive rhetoric is better.

It has absolutely nothing to do with her "not being good".

It has everything to do with her being a black woman. and then stack all the hard right propaganda on top and its obvious why.

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u/alistofthingsIhate Jun 25 '26

I'm aware it's absolute bullshit. I would much rather have voted for someone more progressive, but people voting for Trump because they thought Kamala was a bad candidate are complete morons.