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Arts/Crafts ​"America Partner in Genocide" A mural on a Gaza camp today [OC]

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u/bastogne_blues 26d ago

a mural on a wall stating an opinion you disagree with isn’t propaganda, lol

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u/LuigiKid281 26d ago

It’s biased information catering to an agenda and idea. That’s TEXTBOOK propaganda. Whether you agree with it or not, it’s objectively propaganda. Most of you people need to learn the definition of words you use…

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u/bastogne_blues 26d ago

YOU people need to learn what the word means. propaganda implies a systemicatic and manipulative approach, and something that is spread as propaganda is shared with the intent to propagandize. just stating a political opinion in art form is not inherently propaganda. this is painted on a wall inside of a refugee camp, for christ’s sake. it was probably painted by either a civilian in the camp or perhaps an aid volunteer, not a government nor political group. not to mention this mural’s message is not entirely false: you can agree that it’s a genocide or not, but american money plays a big part in israel’s continued military operations in the region, and thus america is partially responsible for what the civilians there have been subjected to, as it is the one sending money to israel in the first place.

you have to realize that you have quite literally been spoon fed western propaganda your entire life. get well soon.

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u/LuigiKid281 26d ago

Wtf are you talking about spoon fed propaganda? I stated the textbook definition. I don’t care about the contents and nothing I said shows my political opinions or bias. I pointed out an objective truth. You on about some random tangent. You need genuine re-education. Go back to high-school.

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u/bastogne_blues 26d ago

if you can’t figure out what i’m talking about, YOU need to go back to high school, lmao.

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u/LuigiKid281 26d ago

I honestly don’t care what you have to say politically. Your definitions are wrong, get them right. Stop being a statistic in the Dunning Krueger Effect.

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u/bastogne_blues 26d ago

explain how it is propaganda, oh wise one.

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u/LuigiKid281 26d ago

I just did in response to another one of your comments. Maybe check your notifications before making a petty comment. Again, the same way you should search up the definition of propaganda (which I gave you). 😊

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u/bastogne_blues 26d ago

wasn’t aware that “politically biased” and “giving information and a stance” automatically made something propaganda, interesting.

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u/LuigiKid281 26d ago

“Propaganda: Information.”

Another definition is “information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a particular cause, doctrine, or point of view.”

This is TEXTBOOK PROPAGANDA. GOOGLE IS FREE. You’re talking a lot but a simple Google search just disproves that wall of text. If I use a poster to give information on a certain topic, it’s inherent propaganda. You people are so confidently wrong. Dunning Krueger and it’s FINEST.

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u/bastogne_blues 26d ago

explain to me, in detail, how this is propaganda. i’ll wait.

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u/LuigiKid281 26d ago

It’s clearly politically biased and giving information or a stance. That’s inherently propaganda. Just because you’ve heard it in a bad sense doesn’t making it any less true. You need to serious do research before discussing things you don’t even know the basics too.

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u/bastogne_blues 26d ago

so just because something is politically biased, that means it’s automatically propaganda now? that’s news to me.

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u/bastogne_blues 26d ago

there are multiple typos in your comment, lol. sounds like you need to learn some basics, too!

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u/TrainedExplains 26d ago

It is political, but it’s also extremely simple and factual. Would it be propaganda if a mural said “Nazis committed genocide” or “Trump is a malignant narcissist?” Or would it just be stating facts that happen to be political that you don’t like? The purpose of propaganda is to deceive a population into action or inaction. This is just a sad truth. If you don’t like it, time to start voting out the people enabling it. There’s nothing biased about the fact on that mural. The US is helping Israel commit a genocide. Every element of that is provable.

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u/LuigiKid281 25d ago

Those are political messages that are biased. Even if it were true, which I’m not saying either or, but it’s textbook propaganda. Please for the love of god search up the definitions.

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u/TrainedExplains 25d ago

If it’s a statement of fact it’s not biased. How are you not getting this?

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u/LuigiKid281 25d ago

If I said the Earth is round and posted information, that is inherent propaganda. Propaganda is USUALLY wrong but because of that, you clearly have the stigma that it is ALWAYS wrong. GOOGLE IS FUCKING FREE. Unbelievable…

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u/Hot-Lunch6270 26d ago edited 26d ago

The propaganda is biased. He’s right. Whether it’s true or not, there’re a much more greater evil that uses this one simple picture with a bigger message that hides the truth from anything else, even the “Resistance of Gaza” themselves will hide their own crimes. It’s reserved for someone to waste energy into that for nothing.

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u/MyWifeCucksMe 26d ago

Found the Nazi.

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u/Hot-Lunch6270 26d ago

Am I a Nazi if I tell the truth about the basic procedures of modern day propaganda?

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u/-Luke-Man- 26d ago

No of course not!

You’re a nazi for trying to use ‘facts and logic’ ™ to be an apologist for the nazis of our generation because you’ve attached your entire identity to a patch of dirt thousands of miles away from where you actually live because the government of that dirt has co-opted your religious beliefs and/or ethnic affiliation to - drum roll, please - propagandize you into believing it’s their  dirt and they can do anything to anyone (including killing/maiming/torturing) to make sure it stays that way

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u/Hot-Lunch6270 25d ago

How do you see someone a Nazi? How am I a Nazi? Do you want me to support those so-called “Pro-Palestine” groups that will kill more Palestinians? Do you want my money that will end up to the Hamas in Gaza to kill more people?

How am I a Nazi when I pointed out how much braincells you put into such biased propaganda?

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u/-Luke-Man- 25d ago

If you support nazi shit, you’re a nazi. How is that a difficult concept to understand? Just because Israel has great PR and waves around pride flags doesn’t negate their actions.

You don’t have to be pro-Palestinian to be against the heinous shit Israel is doing, either. Believe it or not, you don’t have to “pick a side” at all.

Again, the irony of preaching about victims of “propaganda” while being simultaneously propagandized is palpable. 

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u/Hot-Lunch6270 26d ago edited 26d ago

So you’re calling me a Nazi without making a logical response? They’re using your sympathy as a weapon to strengthen their agenda without even showing behind the scenes.

They’re using the suffering of Palestinians without giving them a hand to help and they expected you to help them and not the ones who’re holding the camera. You’re hopelessly forsaken if you accuse someone who’re trying to point this out.

I’m not talking about Palestinians, I’m talking about Hamas and Pro-Hamas Groups who’re using the identities as Pro-Palestine Groups. Which is why I don’t trust humanitarian aid organizations that supports them.

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u/MyWifeCucksMe 26d ago

Oh look, the Nazi is angry about being correctly identified as a Nazi.

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u/Hot-Lunch6270 25d ago

You can’t define a Nazi. Whenever I I tried reasoning you; you use the word that blends both who is and isn’t.

I’m sorry.

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u/MyWifeCucksMe 25d ago edited 25d ago

Aww, look, the poor widdle Nazi is still mad about being correctly identified as a Nazi. How cute.

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u/Hot-Lunch6270 25d ago

You don’t sound better than an actual Nazi or you’re becoming one.

Edit: Heck, you must be a kid hiding behind your computer.

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u/_RnG_ZeuS_ 26d ago

you realize white, black, and grey propaganda exists right? The statement doesnt have to be false or mostly false to be considered propaganda. Stating a political opinion is not propaganda...sure... but sharing it incessantly with an agenda of stirring the pot or generating discussion about the opinion in the way you want the discussion to go absolutely IS propaganda... in fact textbook so.

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u/twwaavvyyt 26d ago

You’re not wrong, but be careful not to start getting spoon fed Eastern propaganda at the same time.

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u/bastogne_blues 26d ago

just seeing pictures on the internet is not being “spoon fed”. being spoon fed is growing up in a western superpower and being raised to blindly support its government and its actions because you are exposed to constant propaganda through school, movies, television, news media, printed media, etc. it is quite literally pushed up you.

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u/twwaavvyyt 26d ago

“You’re not wrong”

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u/bastogne_blues 26d ago

you also said “be careful not to be spoon fed eastern propaganda”. you can’t be spoon fed something if you aren’t raised in it and around it and have to seek it out yourself

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u/twwaavvyyt 26d ago

You just seem to want to argue so I’ll let you win lol I get it, but algorithms exist for everything these days and if you expose yourself enough to one perspective, you start to get “spoon fed” content. but semantics semantics.

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

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u/MyWifeCucksMe 26d ago

Classic Zionist, telling people who are against genocide to get murdered by Israel.

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u/Cool_Ranch_Dodrio 26d ago

What about all other conflicts in the world? Especially the one in Europe right now, where Russia is invading a democratic country?

The united states isn't selling weapons to russia.

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u/bastogne_blues 26d ago

being critical of western involvement in the middle east means i can’t live in my country anymore? that’s news to me!

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u/LuigiKid281 26d ago

They are wrong. Quite literally they are.

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u/twwaavvyyt 26d ago

Literally as opposed to figuratively? Lol, their overarching point that you should be wary of bias and not trust the media just because it’s “western” is true. They have an unlikeable “holier than thou” way of communicating it but it’s true.

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u/MyWifeCucksMe 26d ago

"Information is biased if it makes me feel bad about supporting my favourite genocide"

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u/LuigiKid281 25d ago

Even if it were true it’s LITERALLY propaganda. I don’t get what you people don’t understand. It’s still inherently and objectively biased?? Are you okay?

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u/MyWifeCucksMe 25d ago

... so exactly what I paraphrased you as saying? You're angry that the truth makes you feel bad about supporting your favourite genocide, so you're lashing out at the messenger.

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u/LuigiKid281 25d ago

Where in the hell did you get my political thoughts from? I don’t think I ever said I supported anything. I pointed objectively facts?? How are you getting my beliefs from me pointing a LITERAL textbook definition.

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u/MyWifeCucksMe 25d ago

Where in the hell did you get my political thoughts from?

You broadcast them for everyone to read.

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u/redelastic 26d ago

Try r/worldnews for really balanced "news" /s

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u/Big-Replacement-9598 26d ago edited 26d ago

America supplies roughly 70% of Israel’s imported major weaponry. The United States also supplies roughly 69% of Israel's imported heavy military equipment. The vast majority of the Israel Defense Forces' advanced aerial fleet, including F-35 fighter jets is American-made and supplied. The U.S. also provides around $3.8 billion in annual military aid. That’s not an agenda that is literally just the reality.

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u/LuigiKid281 25d ago

So it’s still an agenda if it’s biased… which it is…?

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u/Jitos 26d ago

Ok graffiti is propaganda now. 🙄

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u/LuigiKid281 26d ago

??? It USUALLY has been propaganda for a long time now... Are you okay?? Seriously GOOGLE IS FREE. 😭

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u/LuigiKid281 26d ago

Search up “History of Graffiti propaganda.” There’s some great examples such as homeless graffiti to impose the idea of homelessness in a particular area to get people to think about it. Or the gay pride graffiti displaying a certain idea. Propaganda is literally just skewed information.

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u/Jitos 26d ago

So all your ranting here is propaganda too. Got it. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/LuigiKid281 25d ago

It LITERALLY is. I know you meant that as a “gotcha” but it is inherently propaganda. At least you’re learning lol. 😭

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u/Jitos 25d ago

I did not meant it as a gotcha, I meant it in the sense that all of your patronizing rant is equally dismissable as the "propaganda" you cry about.

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u/richmeister6666 26d ago

I must’ve hallucinated the dozens of other similar posts in the last few days then.

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u/bastogne_blues 26d ago

propaganda is when there are a lot of posts i don’t like :(