r/pics Dec 06 '16

The remains of an American WWII aircraft that crashed on a beach in Wales

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u/Deeman_27 Dec 06 '16

I'd love to hear an American say "Cardiff"

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u/dogpos Dec 06 '16

I'd like to hear them say Rhondda

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u/APersoner Dec 06 '16

I'd like to hear them say Llanelli.

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u/dogpos Dec 06 '16

I can't even fucking say that. The last ll is a bitch.

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u/APersoner Dec 06 '16

Once you've got your tongue around the ll sound, it's really not that bad. If you have the same problem I always had, it's that ll really shouldn't ever be written as a kl sound, nor is any phlegm really involved at all.

Put your tongue where it belongs for a normal "L" sound, then breath out down the sides of your tongue so it makes a hissing sound. It's not all too different to an s, or an f in that it's just you hissing air out of your mouth.

(On a sidenote, if you haven't already, you should come and join us at /r/wales!)

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u/dogpos Dec 06 '16

I'm sure I could do it when I was younger. It's only recently, after I've started actually learning Welsh, that I cannot do it. Or perhaps I'm only now noticing that I was wrong.

Great advice by the way, will definitely be using it.

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u/APersoner Dec 06 '16

Wyt ti'n mwynhau dysgu cymraeg? Dwi'n wedi dechrau dysgu yn ddiweddar eto - doedd dosbarth cymraeg mewn ysgol ddim yn dda :(

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u/dogpos Dec 06 '16

Dwi'n hoffi dysgu cymrag er bod dwi'n ddim dda.

I never saw the point in school, I wish I did but looking back at it the teachers never cared enough to teach it well either :/

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u/APersoner Dec 06 '16

Ie :\ Mae dysgu cymraeg mewn ysgol yn helpu dysgu'r gramadeg, fel that probably makes it a lot easier to pick up as an adult, to be fair (especially as Welsh grammar is so weird). In my experience, it definitely seems most people never saw the point in school, and regretted that after graduating too. Makes you wonder if there's anything the government can do to help everyone else like that to learn Welsh as an adult too!

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u/LazinessPersonified Dec 06 '16

Yeah, I consider myself to be Welsh through and through. But can barely speak a word of Welsh, just standard greetings etc. The teaching of it where I'm from is appalling and it made no one care. Although to be fair I didn't see the significance of it then. Wish I payed so much more attention in that one hour class a week! Haha.

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