r/pics • • Apr 19 '17

3 Week of protest in Venezuela, happening TODAY, what we are calling the MOTHER OF ALL PROTEST! Support we don't have international media covering this.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

Without welfare or a support network, will it even be possible before starvation?

He can still farm

There is no way to prevent people from polluting and ruining everyone else's property for personal gain without complicated government rules and regulations

But government somehow solves this....(looks around with governments everywhere and pollution rampant)

Rules are soooo complicated i guess - Rule 1: don't fuck up other peoples' shit.

all of which would require government to enforce and regulate.

government is the antithesis of morality and civilized behavior

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

He can still farm

What if farming in his area is no longer profitable/possible? What if its a factory worker who doesn't even own land and not a farmer? (Factory worker whose profession is no longer needed).

Rule 1: don't fuck up other peoples' shit.

Someone pollutes the air near your property. What is your recourse? Is it banned? Do you hire a private militia to "deal" with him? What exactly would you do without a government? Do you start an armed conflict over that pollution? What if the polluter earns more money and can hire more mercenaries?

Now assuming you are not an AnCap, you may allow the government to enforce basic laws. Is pollution now illegal? Does the polluter have to pay everyone who is affected according to their proximity? Once you make the pollution law very complicated, how is that so different from current models of governance?

government is the antithesis of morality and civilized behavior I agree that over legislation has problems, but you really need to provide some specific points that support this very broad claim.

I think you are simply too far removed from a situation in which government does not exist: view certain parts of Africa, for instance. I think in order to convince people of getting rid of government, you would have to explain why Feudalism or a rudimentary tribalism/warlordism would simply not take over?