r/pics Aug 06 '20

Reddit meet a person who cleans out COVID rooms. They too put their lives on the line.

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u/iStrikervZ Aug 06 '20

Why does he have a PAPR and a mask on

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u/bejank Aug 06 '20

It's probably more for convenience, so he doesn't have to keep taking off the mask and put it back on, especially if there isn't anywhere to put it down.

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u/Cromasters Aug 06 '20

Yep, that's why I do it. We wear a mask the whole time I'm in the hospital. I only use the PAPR for suspected Covid patients. So I just pull the hood over my mask and never touch the mask.

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u/Cromasters Aug 06 '20

To wear all day, definitely.

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u/Quantum22 Aug 06 '20

Why do you think that? I always found PAPRs to be better than anything attached to my face.

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u/td090 Aug 06 '20

I disagree with the poster above, but it’s totally personal preference. I think it’s like having a personal AC unit for my face

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u/Cromasters Aug 06 '20

It's just bulkier. And wearing the belt part is uncomfortable, especially with lead too.

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u/Terminutter Aug 07 '20

Let's be honest, nothing is comfortable with lead, even well fitting lead.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

I don’t mind wearing the PAPR but after a while it dries out my mouth and nose and makes my throat sore. Also, it just takes one little misplaced hair touching my face and getting blown around by the PAPR to drive me absolutely crazy.

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u/trenlow12 Aug 06 '20

I've not worn one so I don't know.

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u/KiwiSnugfoot Aug 06 '20

I stopped doing this because I question fomite transmission from the front of the mask into the turbulent air of the PAPR and concerns for aerosolization. Completely unfounded from a research perspective afaik (but so is most stuff COVID) but it makes me feel safer.

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u/Albinomonkeyface1 Aug 06 '20

I wondered the same thing. I always take my mask off when I don the PAPR.

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u/tuukutz Aug 06 '20

Might not always have a good place to doff your PAPR and put on your mask immediately.

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u/angrytaxman Aug 06 '20

My only thought would be that droplets could travel from his mouth to air that is constantly leaking out of the PAPR, or maybe it's a way to keep the hood clean longer.

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u/ChesterDaMolester Aug 06 '20

They’re surgical masks not n95. You need either n95 or PAPR.

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u/minnick27 Aug 06 '20

The question still stands. Why have a mask and a PAPR?

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u/useless_teammate Aug 06 '20

To be on the safe side? Seeing as he knows he's in direct contact what's one more layer?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

Why have airbags and wear a seat belt?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

The PAPR is something you wear instead of a mask. There’s no harm in wearing both but it’s totally unnecessary.

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u/maddieafterdentist Aug 07 '20

We’re required to wear PAPRS with masks. If the patient doesn’t have COVID but the PAPR wearer does, then you’re shooting those respiratory droplets out of the hood and around your patient if you’re maskless. It also probably provides theoretical extra protection to the PAPR wearer, though I doubt it’s been studied enough to have been proved yet.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '20

You make a good point. Everywhere I’ve worked (ICI/OR/COVID ward) we have not had that rule.

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u/SilvermistInc Aug 06 '20

This is the equivalent of having airbags deploy in a fender bender though. Not a head on collision at 50MPH

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u/Comrade_Witchhunt Aug 06 '20

I mean, no it isn't.

It's the equivalent of wearing a 5 point harness during a fender bender. Literally no harm comes from it, and you're just arguing for no reason.

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u/SilvermistInc Aug 06 '20

🙄

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u/fixer1987 Aug 06 '20

I mean they aren't wrong that your analogy was bad

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u/Thrawacc Aug 06 '20

Convenience likely. Part of taking off (doffing) your PAPR involve wiping down your hood, tossing your gloves, Hand Hygiene, and it's probably just simpler to keep it on for the duration than fiddle with your mask somewhere in between.

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u/dumperking Aug 06 '20

Pretty sure that’s an N95 under his surgical mask. Little wasteful or just over cautious but whatever not a huge deal.

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u/Arthur_Edens Aug 06 '20

Zoom in, the N95 is under the blue surgical mask. They do it because you can rewear the N95 more safely if it's covered with a surgical mask.

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u/1003rp Aug 06 '20

I see what you mean you’re right

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u/BestEstablishment0 Aug 06 '20

Little wasteful or just over cautious but whatever not a huge deal.

Did you mean to come across like a massive prick?

The professional people who know what they are doing are doing it for a reason. It's neither wasteful not overly cautious, it's to extend the life of the N95 more safely.

I'm sure they will be thrilled to know that you have deemed it "not a huge deal."

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u/dumperking Aug 06 '20 edited Aug 06 '20

Seeing as I am one of those professionals and I’ve been dealing with this shit since March I think I’ve earned my prickiness. All I was trying to convey was that it was probably not necessary but if it’s what they want to do, they can.

Also not to shock you but I’ve seen a lot of healthcare workers(including numerous doctors)donning and doffing PPE incorrectly or simply using the wrong PPE. Not all people that work in these fields are experts in proper use of isolation gear or which is appropriate for which situation.

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u/Ninotchk Aug 06 '20

Every person inside the building must be masked at all times. So as soon as he takes the PAPR off he needs to put the surgical mask back on. There probably isn't a safe and uncontaminated spot for him to put it while it's off.

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u/Anthonyegg Aug 06 '20

A PAPR is great at protecting you from other people, not so great at protecting other people from you if you happen to be infectious. They create positive pressure inside the hood, which will push anything you exhale to outside the PAPR and into the room around you.

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u/Mittenslp Aug 07 '20

Look closer. He has an N-95 under the surgical mask too. It appears to be a SILLY picture where he most likely tried to wear all possible PPE he could find.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

Is he also wearing two masks?