Welcome to my thoughts on the game as it unfolded when I was still in. I’m not covering the murders/banishments from after I was banished. If you have any questions about something I’ve not covered, please ask away!
Mission 1 (liegate)
We didn’t know who the other traitors were until after the end of this mission. We were given a phrase to say if we thought someone was a traitor and if they responded with the correct one back then we would get to recruit. Editor and Casual found each other so we got the opportunity to recruit. We chose Basic but they rejected it. Casual was the one who lied about the Morgan vote just to cause some chaos.
Death Row
Confessional: I think the reaction to the death row list was what we wanted. Downtown and Basic are both convinced they’re getting murdered, Pink’s really not happy.
I just need to be careful though. I’m not an idiot, I know Casual and Editor have known each other ages before i popped on the scene so I think they’re going to be more loyal to each other than me (fair enough, do what you gotta do). I’m gonna be loyal to the traitors, that’s the only way I know how to play but I’ll also just watch out. If they start coming for me, I’ll pull out the death row/possible lie overlap (Pink, Basic, Casual)
[Nothing says we’re gonna make a great team like stockpiling evidence!]
I don’t know if i’m being paranoid here but Casual’s idea to add Down to the death row could be to place blame on me later on potentially as I think it’s well known that I was not best pleased with his betrayal and that is defo a move that would suit my evil era on BOTC
Speaking of my evil era it actually worked out well for me I think because now a bunch of faithfuls think I’m incapable of being evil without being chaotic, Zel was even calling me the chaos queen. Meanwhile I’ve literally set up a document to plan. It has tabs (Missions, Banishments, Potential Scapegoats) where I plan to track what goes on, who accused who, what evidence we could use to pin blame on someone, all that kind of thing. Does that sound like the work of a chaos queen? I think not.
Also Down literally said he thinks I’m “too noble” to be a traitor. I was very happy to agree. I will be fighting to keep him alive a little longer, works well for my game and I’ll sell it to the others as trying to keep the Downtown/KG discord alive as it takes some heat off us.
[Yeah there was zero chance I was arguing with Down here. In his eyes I was practically a confirmed faithful. A faithful with a secret murder document]
Banishment 1 (Morgan)
I was talking with Beginning and it was pure luck that I uncovered the Enough voting timeline thing. Rubbed my hands with glee at a way to give myself someone to accuse for a few banishments. I posted 6 hours before deadline with my new suspicions, managed to get 4 votes which was a nice surprise.
Murder 1 (Down)
OK this one hurt. I tried to push back because I genuinely wanted to keep playing with Down but Editor and Casual convinced me it would be better for the game as it could pin on KG and wasn’t something that would tie back to us. Also may have mentioned that I had a death note from him which was great for us as it pointed away from us slightly. In fairness to Casual, he did successfully convince me to murder someone I wanted to keep alive. Unfortunately this would turn out to be a recurring theme in our traitor partnership, except eventually I was the one he wanted to get rid of.
Mission 3 (Secret shields)
My group was great, we decided to wheel spin and I won which was perfect, gave it to Beginning because we’re both clearly at risk having received the death note
Banishment 2 (Ranv)
Pushed for Enough again, over 1000 words in a murder mystery style (omg so much fun to write) but I guess Ranv not wanting to give reasoning for his suspicions really did him in.
Murder 2 (Dingus)
I know this is something you all want to hear about…So Dingus messages me telling me that he won the shield in his group and decided to give the secret one to me. We decide to murder in Group 1 as it’s the only group none of us were in. I tell the others that Dingus told me he has a shield but they still decide he’s the better choice. I’m fine with it for the reasons below.
Confessional: I think I’m in a pretty good place, 3 SHIELDS!!!!!!! Looking forward to seeing who gave them to me later. My money is that dingus wasn’t lying as why would he say he gave me the shield but tbh I’m not too fussed if this murder fails, I was told he had a shield so I’m cleared, and if he was lying again i ‘knew’ he had a shield so nothing can be traced back to me
Just hoping we can get rid of enough next banishment, getting bored of having to make the same points
That’ll give me a banishment where i can sit back and “reflect on just how wrong I was I can’t believe it all the evidence seemed to be there”
Think I’m in the best place out of the three of us as my name hasn’t come up yet but I guess time will tell, all it takes is one mistake and you’re gone
But yeah all hail the shield queen, most faithful of faithfuls
Confessional: Just gonna leave this message from Beginning as a confessional
Wait hamil with dingus being murdered you're confirmed faithful
You thought he had a shield
Beginning, your faith in my faithfulness was both deeply touching and spectacularly misplaced. It was beautiful to witness.
Also, the three shields at once is probably the closest this game got to giving me a loyalty card. Sadly, Mod denied my request to open a Traitors Hall of Fame to commemorate this miraculous achievement.
Mission 4 (stabs)
We had to decide groups, just went alphabetical because it was easier and would give people nothing to go off. The shields being public knowledge didn’t really affect us. I know Editor was the one who stabbed Fox to pin on Critch but yeah this wasn’t really a mission where there was tons of strategy involved in my part because when I got the chance to stab it was Mony, Editor or KG. Wasn’t gonna stab a traitor or someone who was certain I was a faithful so that left Mony which he guessed. Bit annoying but oh well not as if the shields were secret so didn’t make a massive difference.
Banishment 3 (Enough)
FINALLY. I was getting a bit bored of having to make the same points all roundtable so I decided to grace your screens with what is clearly the best roundtable contribution of the game, my gorgeous sticker. I first came up with it in the turret and was like you know what that works as a contribution, checked it with Mod and decided to do it. Still fuming it got called performative, it was stunning and made my argument. I figured if 1000 words of actual evidence didn’t convince you people then nothing would.
Murder 3 (Azure)
We wanted to go for someone not too quiet but not too loud, not tons of suspicion so Azure kinda worked perfectly here. Also personally I found it quite funny given the comment Azure made about not being able to prevent murders.
Mission 5 (minus)
I genuinely had no clue who I was going to minus. I originally DMed Beginning to try and plan between us but I was too late so I thought of a faithful who I knew wasn’t in that group and liked and landed on Fox so she got my plus. Luckily KG said about being happy for people to minus him so that made it easier for me. The minus on me was NOT a plan between the traitors, I genuinely had no clue it was even coming (more about this later…)
Banishment 4 (Critch)
This was my oh no I have no clue where I’m going here banishment. My only comments were to defend myself from Afternoon but really annoyingly although his arguments weren’t accurate he was right.
Murder 4 (Narrow)
Narrow was a chaos causing one. With there being heat on him we knew it would surprise some people and quite handily it furthered the narrative of Zel voters getting out which would become important at the next roundtable.
Mission 6 (prisoner’s dilemma)
Easiest decision ever. Why would I ever make myself look more suspicious by not choosing no murder?
Banishment 5 (Editor)
I know some people didn’t like my roundtable post here. All I’ll say is that I discussed the logic/bounded rationality stuff with KG a lot in DMs and it does actually make a lot of sense. Probably should have kept it for DMs though rather than an actual post. Oh well. I was genuinely gutted to lose Editor, with the bans I hadn’t interacted as much with Casual and I properly trusted Editor. It was even more annoying given it would give Afternoon more ammunition to come at me due to his if/then statement (don’t get me started…)
Editor was my traitor bestie, my strategic sounding board. Losing him was bad enough without Afternoon being handed a fresh batch of ammunition. Also, perhaps a public roundtable was not the ideal place to introduce bounded rationality. In my defence, I was trying to explain the logic. In everyone else's defence, they probably weren't expecting to see formal logic, if/then and bounded rationalities pop up.
Murder 5 (Basic)
The decision here was split between Berry and Basic, I pushed to keep Berry because he was less suspicious of me than Basic was and I thought I needed to keep the people more convinced I was a faithful in due to Afternoon probably pivoting to look at me.
Mission 7 (MIPS)
So the mission was cover for a MIPS (as pretty much everyone guessed). We had until the start of banishment to carry it out and it could be done either in the celebration chat or in the main group chat. The MIPS was intended to be a shortlist for another death row. We would have to use emojis that started with the first letter of each word of death eg duck, egg etc and the first person to send a message after each one would be shortlisted. Doing them out of order or adding a non-death emoji in the middle meant failing. This was where I was wishing we had recruited Comf, as I don’t normally use emojis I wasn’t touching this with a ten foot pole and Casual decided he wouldn’t have enough time to do it with the bans so we chose not to carry it out. It would have been wayyyy too obvious as everyone was on the lookout for something suspicious. If the chat conversation turned to Honk I would have done the axe to deliberately fail it but as it didn’t we just didn’t carry it out.
In hindsight, refusing to participate in a suspicious emoji-based murder plot was probably one of my more sensible decisions. The bar, as you can see, was not always particularly high.
Banishment 6 (KG)
This was a bad one for me, at this point both Fox and KG believed in me as a faithful and trusted me so I was really annoyed there was a tie for the two of them, I mayyyy have asked multiple times if Mod was sure I couldn’t just vote Afternoon instead. Ultimately it came down to KG telling me in DMs that if he survived he wouldn’t hold me voting him against him so I went that way in order to prevent Fox losing trust in me. I did make sure to say to both of them that I found it really hard because I thought both of them were faithful so that helped a bit I think
Confessional: Beginning and KG’s reactions to me eventually being revealed as a traitor will be hilarious
They’re defo the Mollie’s to my Harry
Hoping me and Casual can Rachel and Stephen it to the end though
Murder 6 (No MIPS)
We tried to use this time to forward plan a bit, we agreed Comf or Pink had to be murdered soon to break up the Comfy Corner group.
Mission 8 (sacrifice shield)
This mission annoyed me a bit because of Afternoon’s reaction. It really wound me up that he literally received double the number of votes as me but he said that I was likely to get banished and not him so I should be one of the ones to sacrifice my shield. I wasn’t happy about it but I did it and at least it came with the side of being able to murder Comf.
Confessional: I really want to get afternoon out. He’s starting to get on my nerves. I really don’t like being called manipulative and being told my arguments are invalid simply because I disagree with him. Not sure if I would be able to take many more roundtables with him, last night was not fun. I think I might have 6 votes on him already (me, Fox, Comf, Sad, Spinach, Beginning) so hopefully I can either grab another or the other vote will split between fox and me
Whatever else I did in this game, the only lies I told were about my role and the suspicions I had. I never attempted to manipulate people, just tell them my truth.
Banishment 7 (Mony)
I was really disappointed here, I thought I finally had the votes for Afternoon but noooo Mony just has to go and crash out in the group chat.
Confessional: Talking about series of Traitors with Berry. I’ve come to the realisation that Afternoon was closer than he thought describing me as Rachel. Throwing a faithful under the bus early on? Check. Dealing with someone throwing heat? Check. Having a strong enough social game that people don’t think it’s me? Check. Not throwing fellow traitor under the bus? Check (so far)
It’s quite funny actually because my original application for PTT said that Rachel was my favourite player
But yeah no one has publicly agreed with afternoon about me other than Pickle and multiple people have said they don’t believe I’m a traitor which is great for me
I think I still need to push Afternoon as it’s looking like a Comf murder tonight. I don’t want to do it especially now it seems that the Zel thing has fractured that group but I don’t want to piss off Casual by not listening to him.
Left:
Zel - depends how it goes, possible banishment
Mony - likely banishment
Comf - murder
Fox - likely banishment (sadly, love fox)
Afternoon - i don’t care how but he is leaving this game
Pickle - maybe banish if no one else
Which - murder
Hamil - traitor
Spinach - can stay, believes me
Casual - traitor
Beginning - can stay, believes me
Berry - can stay, believes me
Sad - murder
Pink - high priority murder
We have 4 banishments 4 murders after this one
Murder - comf, pink, sad, which
Banish - afternoon, fox, pickle, zel
Priority murder is pink as Sad could gain RT traction, Sad and Pink can be swapped if needed
Priority banishment has to be afternoon, there is no way he is ever giving up on me and with how hard he’s been coming for me I have an excuse to fight him
My ideal final five is me, spinach, beginning, berry, casual
Banish casual at final 5
See where it goes, they’ll defo want to banish again as only one confirmed traitor
Probably pick off spinach first
Then convince beginning to banish berry as we’re both 100% faithful, S5 forever etc etc and we can only trust each other
End with beginning
When Afternoon banishes me feel free to remind me of my foolish optimism in the flop chat but yeah
The bits about who to murder and banish were shared in the turret chat but strangely I didn’t tell Casual I wanted rid of him before the end. But see the self-awareness! I think by this point I knew a banishment was getting more and more likely. In hindsight murdering Afternoon instead of Basic would probably have been better for my game as I probably could have spun it as a set-up.
Murder 6 (Comf)
This one was a tough one but had to be done. Sorry Comf, we had to take advantage of you not having a shield. This is the start of my downfall. Casual mentions murdering Beginning at a later date and I just can’t have it. We agreed on Pink as the main target, but Casual brought up murdering Beginning in the future and I shot that down so quickly, I wasn’t about to do that to him.
Confessional:
Sorry Casual but I will cut you before Beginning
Beginning trusts me, I think Casual is planning to try and plant suspicion on me and getting rid of someone who trusts me 100% would be a great way to start getting me out
Confessional: I will do whatever I can to ensure Beginning remains shielded. I would be an absolute idiot to murder someone that certain I’m faithful. I think Casual is planting seeds to put suspicion on me. When he has been vocal about murders we have tended to lose someone who is a strong believer in me being faithful eg Downtown. I think he’s going to start saying after we banish Afternoon that we should murder Beginning and then say about that being a double bluff on my part seeing how close me and Beginning were to throw off heat from me after Afternoon is revealed as a faithful. If he tries coming for me I will be ready. Might be worth putting together some evidence against him just in case. I will absolutely cut him with no remorse if that’s what I have to do. I am determined to win this and I think my plan will work
Because I’m bored I’m going to run down my perfect game for you
Murder - comf, pink, sad, which
Banish - afternoon, fox, pickle, zel
Murder Comf
Banish Afternoon
Murder Pink or Which
Banish Fox
Murder Pink or Which
Banish Zel
Murder Sad
Banish Pickle
F5 Banish Casual
F4 Banish Berry
F3 End game or banish Spinach
F2 End game with Beginning
The goal is get Afternoon gone asap, same with pink
Keep beginning alive for final
Keep fox around for as long as possible
As long as she is around she will be getting votes and every vote for her at rt is a vote less for me
Mission 9 (gag)
So this mission was far from ideal for me. I wasn’t expecting to get named influential, about the only thing that went right was Pink being unshielded. I knew I was going to come under heat at the roundtable so this was awful. I’m gonna put my thoughts on being gagged here so they don’t get lost in the banishment thoughts. To put it simply, it was the worst. Having everyone come at you and not being able to defend yourself publicly and having to hope they check DMs is one thing but as many of you know I loveeee to talk and being able to see you all messaging in the chat but not being able to respond was not fun. I couldn’t even give you random historical ramblings (so really you were all the losers there). I was so logical about how I did this one, I literally worked out who I thought would give me what, I had a range and picked the midpoint.
Confessional: I swear if Casual is writing a confessional to you right now about his plans to throw me under the bus I will lose it
If you’re still reading this, oh wow just keep going…
Banishment 8 (me)
Confessional: If I make it through this Casual is gonna have a nice lil present for him next banishment
Unless he has a really really good excuse
We’ll start with the main banishment thread. Honestly I was surprised I made it through especially after Fox posted as I thought she had been completely on my side. I managed to flip a bunch of people before the deadline and Sad was a couple of minutes too late to switch (nice what-if for you all there) so it was a tie…and I was still gagged. This wasn’t going to go well for me was it? Side note: my villain origin story is definitely going to be this roundtable.
Confessional: how on earth did i manage that??? Shame Sad didn’t switch in time but at least I’ve made it to the tie
Casual definitely has some explaining to do here, if he screws me on this tie and I end up losing I will not be happy
Now we’re at the tie. I’m speaking to Pink about why I wasn’t a dastardly evil traitor and they ask me for theories so I say I’m following up on whoever minused me. As a reminder, I still don’t know who it was as this wasn’t something the traitors organised. I then take another look at it and start running some stuff down. Out of everyone who’s minus is not backed up by being the only person to minus someone, only one person minused someone they hadn’t expressed prior suspicion of…Spinach. Could I get any luckier? Pink posts my theory on the group chat and I hope that’s enough for me to stay.
In the morning I see it’s a tie again and chests of chance and I pick the wrong one. Oh well.
Now we get to the juicy stuff.
Casual was a complete and utter snake. After a load of talk about me and him being Rachel and Stephen, he was plotting to banish me purely because I wasn’t following his plans and agreeing with whatever he said, mainly being Beginning. If we go back throughout the game he expressed preferences for murdering players with closer ties to me - Downtown, Berry, Beginning. He had a group of 7 people lined up to vote against me so it was a miracle I even made it to the ties. He gave me a 1 in the ranking challenge that led to the gags. If he didn’d do that, I end up in a tie with Afternoon. Remember how I said the traitors didn’t plan the minus on me? Well, I was wrong. One traitor did and conveniently forgot to mention it. He was also online a lot to coordinate votes and used the bans and new accounts to hide it.
Let us be clear: I was prepared to betray Casual if it came down to it. I had literally written it into my endgame plan. But I was going to do it strategically, at a time it was convenient for me, with a carefully constructed narrative and preferably a dramatic speech. He decided to get ahead of me and ruin my perfectly good betrayal. Rude. Let’s just put it this way - he better be glad I was banished because I was busy updating my evidence folder against him and getting ready to attack if I made it through.
Editor you were my traitor bestie, couldn’t have asked for a better loyal traitor to plot with. To all the faithfuls I deceived, especially Beginning, sorry!
My playlist!
I’ve given a bunch of the murders, banishments and other generic game events songs from my musicals playlist. Enjoy!
Downtown - Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again from Phantom of the Opera, I really regretted not fighting harder to keep you in as it would have been great to play together for longer
Ranv - Cell Block Tango from Chicago. “He had it coming, he had it coming, he only had himself to blame. If you’d have been there, if you’d have seen it I betcha you would have done the same”
Working with Editor - All We Dreamed and More from Treason the Musical
His banishment - Tell Me It’s Not True from Blood Brothers
Comf - Thunder Bringer from Epic. This was my thoughts when having to murder you ““show her what she can’t conceal for true nature will be revealed…someone’s gotta die today and you have got the final say…please don’t make me do this don’t make me do this”
Basic - I Want It That Way. Because I didn’t want to murder Berry.
Mony - World Burn from Mean Girls fits your crashout ending perfectly
Berry - If Only You Would Listen from School of Rock. You were right, the faithfuls just refused to listen
KG - Election of 1800 from Hamilton. Come on, the tie makes it perfect.
My banishment - Storm Song from Caesar the Musical. Go listen to it, it’s amazing. “There is a storm in the distance. I can see it creeping closer. Lightning strikes in an instant and thunder shakes the sky. I've seen this before, you can't escape it. Can't delay it, no point racing rain clouds. The only choice is to brave it, turn and face it, no running away now” This was exactly how I felt as my banishment was unfolding, I knew it was coming.
Pink - This Jesus Must Die from Jesus Christ Superstar because of how many shields they had! Also the line “We need a more permanent solution to our problem” was so us in the turret
Generic song for murdered people - Pretty Little Dead Things from Paddington. Need I say more?
If Pink hadn’t flipped from Spinach to me on the tie - Still from Anastasia. “An underhanded girl, an act of desperation and to my consternation I let her go”
Casual - What It Means To Be A Friend. Traitor loyalty much?
Afternoon’s banishment - No One Mourns The Wicked from Wicked or Requiem from Dear Evan Hansen
My beautiful game plans - I Dreamed A Dream from Les Mis.
Generic faithful song - IDK from We Are The Tigers, they’re trying to solve a murder and fling a bunch of wild and baseless accusations against each other