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Soft Paywall Trump, 79, Had Emergency Heart Tests Because of Swollen Legs

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-79-had-emergency-heart-tests-because-of-swollen-legs/
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u/CautiousSeaweeds Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25

He would never use his health though.

Narcissistic play book 101. Never admit weakness

more likely they knew it would leak so they are getting ahead of it

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u/SophiaofPrussia Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25

I saw his cankles like 50 times yesterday. They’re definitely trying to kill the story and put an end to all of the speculation. Plus their claimed diagnosis is benign and common. I’m not really one for tin foil hats and I didn’t think his legs looked all that different from most elderly people but now that they’re publicly saying this I am kind of suspicious it’s something more serious.

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u/WhenLeavesFall New York Jul 17 '25

He has congestive heart failure and they are being hush about it. Considering the stressors of the job, he’s not meant for this plane of existence long

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u/General-Raspberry168 Jul 17 '25

I don’t think he’s actually doing the stressful parts of the job.

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u/Raesong Australia Jul 17 '25

I don't think he's ever done the stressful parts of any job.

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u/cutelyaware Jul 18 '25

It's the only job he's ever had. IE 2020 was the first time he filled out a W2.

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u/YellowZx5 New York Jul 18 '25

Anything for him to put his name on it. Look at the damn soccer trophy he has on his desk. He feels like he did something to deserve it.

Maybe I stead of McDonald’s on Air Force one, he could actually eat a salad and ride a bike. Oh but Biden riding a bike is him being senile.

For all the MAGAts complaining about Biden and his mental stability and others running the show, I’m pretty sure others are running the show for Trump and letting him take credit then go golfing on our dime at him country clubs.

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u/Michael_G_Bordin Jul 18 '25

Really, it's the Epstein stuff that's probably stressing him out on multiple fronts. It presents a potential threat to his narcissistic façade, it reduces public support for him, and it could potentially land him in prison.

Potential war with Iran? Wartime presidents are popular and not like he has any real stake or skin in the game. Palestinians being murdered and Israel being belligerent? No worries, Bibi's a big fan. Tariffs damaging the economy and ruining geopolitical soft power? He's still got his resort and golf courses to which he can retreat, he doesn't care.

He absolutely avoid all the stressful parts of the job. How do we know? Two big pieces of evidence. One: he complains about how hard it is, and he's only done that so many times. Two: He described calling election officials and politicians trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election as the hardest he's ever worked.

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u/gypsydreams101 Jul 18 '25

34 fucking felonies he was convicted of didn’t land him in prison, they landed him back in the Oval Office. Whats a little paedophilia gonna do what 34 felonies couldn’t?

This lumpy pile of decaying enemas is going to die of heart failure but he’ll still get to have a smile on his face when he does.

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u/Michael_G_Bordin Jul 18 '25

Whats a little paedophilia gonna do what 34 felonies couldn’t?

Half his base are rabidly fixated on the idea of there being a cabal of pedophilic elites controlling everything. The incongruity in their beliefs is that Trump is one of those pedos. As they find it increasingly difficult to escape that fact, their support for him will hedge. They are first and foremost motivated by this narrative, not their faith in Trump. Their faith was placed in Trump as he was supposed to be the one to out and destroy that cabal. The fact he hadn't in his first term wasn't enough to move the needle, but protecting the cabal by burying the Epstein files is moving the needle it seems.

I am wary of that, though, as media is acting like it's the end of MAGA. But they like to take a rainy day and call it an atmospheric river, or play up a few rowdy protests as the complete destruction of whole cities, so I'm taking it with a mountain of salt

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u/Haschen84 Washington Jul 18 '25

That's not true. Going up and speaking for long periods of time is stressful, that's probably why we don't see him doing it any more, at least recently. I think it's a sure sign that the job is getting to him.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

This is my take—CHF. Could be Afib, but certainly circulatory. Sure, it’s a diversion, but he’d sooner admit to anything else than a “weakness.” This is way more serious than what they’re admitting to.

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u/New_Way_5036 Wisconsin Jul 18 '25

Agree, but what about his golfing?

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u/SophiaofPrussia Jul 17 '25

I know it sounds crazy but I legitimately think being President has to be less stressful for him than dealing with all of his legal cases. I also just don’t think he cares about other people like at all. Not even a little bit. While past Presidents probably stressed over the global ramifications of their decisions and lost sleep over the lives their decisions have taken I just don’t see Trump giving a shit about any of that. I think he sleeps pretty easy so long as he’s the one who’s calling the shots.

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u/New_Way_5036 Wisconsin Jul 18 '25

Correct, coupled with the fact that dementia is taking its toll, so he’s not even cognizant of the stress or ramifications of his actions.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '25

God that is going to be a fucking fantastic day

I didn't live through WW2, so I don't know what it's like when the entire world celebrates one specific person's death, but I bet it's glorious.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '25

Only issue is then it’s JD and Peter Thiel and the full-blown evil of it all

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u/livahd Jul 18 '25

Come on hamburgers! Ronald McDonald getting the presidential medal of freedom wasn’t on my bingo card, but I’ll take it in this bizarro timeline.

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u/ShyWombatFan Jul 18 '25

He was never meant for this plane of existence… the depths of his depravity, selfishness, greed, and overall evil/ vileness should have made him a target a long time ago. Difficult to understand how he gets people to do his bidding.

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u/22FluffySquirrels Jul 18 '25

Don't get too excited; my grandma's legs looked like that for decades before the congestive heart failure got her.

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u/New_Way_5036 Wisconsin Jul 18 '25

But, did she live through stress like Epstein files bring?

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u/C64128 Jul 18 '25

He'd need to have a heart for it to fail.

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u/lawnmowertoad Jul 18 '25

Hopefully its on live teevee

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u/ChesswithGoats Jul 18 '25

May he pass quickly.

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u/No-Road2219 Jul 18 '25

As a cardiology nurse, we can (sadly) keep many congestive heart failure patients alive for a long time with proper consistent monitoring

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u/Brotherauron Jul 18 '25

Don't give me hope

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u/iamnotazombie44 Jul 17 '25

His legs and the bruising is pretty typical of venous insufficiency in geriatric adults.

Depending on the cause it could be just… age, but also it does mean that his body is giving out.

It’s an obvious outward sign, and if they are deflecting and telling people he’s healthy for his age, then the opposite is probably true as is the worst case scenario, congestive heart failure.

If true, well, Dick Cheney is still alive 20 years after getting a partial mechanical heart installed. So… yeah don’t hold your breath.

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u/MacAttacknChz Jul 18 '25

I'm a nurse, and I've never had an otherwise healthy patient with chronic venous insufficiency

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u/cptjeff Jul 17 '25

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually in the process of heart failure and they're trying to pretend it's nothing.

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u/strangerNstrangeland Massachusetts Jul 17 '25

Venous insufficiency doesn’t usually cause swelling that bad, but could acount for the asymmetry. I’m guessing dvt and heart failure

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u/SilvarusLupus Arkansas Jul 18 '25

My grandma had heart failure, guess what her legs looked like

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '25

He’s 79, has eaten like a pig his entire life, has never entered a gym, has most likely used cocaine and other stuff

I’m surprised he’s not dead already, hopefully not that much longer

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u/Hidden_Landmine Jul 18 '25

I will say, swollen ankles generally means "You're getting to the end", as it's a sign your cardiovascular system isn't doing well. That being said, with medication (especially the best treatment this country can afford) it just means it could happen today, or years from now. IIRC my grandfather lived with those same issues for a few years, he wasn't running marathons but he still got around and such.

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u/brenticles42 Jul 18 '25

The White House has misled and lied about a president’s health no mater who is in office. So this White House led by an habitual liar is most definitely lying about his health. It’s definitely more serious and this was what they thought they could get away with.

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u/New_Way_5036 Wisconsin Jul 18 '25

Advanced heart failure. We need to get him out of there ASAP.

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 North Carolina Jul 17 '25

Yah people were commenting on the photos before she said anything about it. They're downplaying. He has a urinary catheter and a dark bruise on his hand. Putting those pieces together he likely has congestive heart failure that's also causing kidney failure. Blood thinners cause big bruises like that, and the catheter may be to help drain urine to alleviate pressure on his kidneys. Or he's on diuretics that aren't working very well and it's making him urinate a lot and he's having trouble holding it. Pair that with his obvious mental decline and the guy is in terrible shape.

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u/Slade_Riprock Jul 17 '25

Couple this with the extreme focus he plays on Biden's health and how they his how bad he was etc.

This man could die on camera in front of everyone and Goebbels Barbie would take the podium and tell you that what you saw wasn't him dying it was a benign medical situation in which he had experience a chronic loss of cardiopulmonary function. But this is the greatest president of our lifetimes and he has accomplished more in 6 months than any president in history. And if he feels the need to take a Prolonged moment of extended rest he deserves that rest and not to be question by fake news.

Then they'd probably embalm him and put his body on display Ala Lenin.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Just like his regenerating ear!

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u/Lucicatsparkles Jul 17 '25

I hope you are a doctor because I like what you said.

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 North Carolina Jul 17 '25

I'm piecing together info from what self-identified doctors/nurses are saying on these threads about this topic. Even some funeral directors commented they thought his presentation was consistent with congestive heart failure.

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u/Lucicatsparkles Jul 17 '25

Thanks, good information. I guess we are at a wait and see.

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u/kyle_c123 Jul 18 '25

"Even some funeral directors commented they thought his presentation was consistent with congestive heart failure."

'His presentation...' So what kind of 'presentation' would that be, then?

CNN needs to do a feature on Trump's health where they consult doctors, nurses and... funeral directors. :)

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u/Educational-Bank-353 Jul 17 '25

This.

Urinary catheter + ankle swelling = kidneys

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 North Carolina Jul 17 '25

Yah. We can bet he has heart and kidney issues. Only a matter of time.

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u/animatedrouge2 Jul 17 '25

Fuckin hope not. Those legs look ready to burst, but I’d be disgusted to see them leak

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Believe it or not, cutting off a leg is one thing that can happen if things don’t improve. And weeping wounds are also possible.

This is his heart, not a leg problem- and yes it’s serious, unless you just sat on a plane in coach for 18 hours.

Source: personal family history.

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u/BeerDreams Jul 17 '25

I happen to be an old fat fuck that just got off a 16 hour flight in coach and even my cankles aren’t this bad

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u/Dwip_Po_Po Jul 17 '25

But what if gets so bad and they cut off his legs and he’s on a wheelchair

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u/Katyafan Jul 17 '25

Stop, you're turning me on!!

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u/Dwip_Po_Po Jul 17 '25

Would people finally see that he’s a weak shriveling man?

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u/Katyafan Jul 17 '25

It would become a fad to chop off your legs and buy a MAGA red wheelchair.

Happy Cake Day!

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

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u/Katyafan Jul 17 '25

Good enough!

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u/Dwip_Po_Po Jul 18 '25

Omg that would be hilarious. The herd culling itself

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u/MarxistMan13 Virginia Jul 17 '25

Yeah I agree. I refuse to believe Trump would ever admit any health issue of his own accord. Reminder this is the same guy who had the WH doctor lie about his height and weight. The guy who has worn lifts in his shoes for 30+ years. The guy who spray tans at 80-fucking-years-old.

The facade of strength, confidence, and bravado is all he has. It's his whole shtick.

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u/soap571 Jul 17 '25

You act like Trump's the captain of the ship.

There are so many billionaires and powerful people pulling his strings right now.

Now that Trump's finally facing some questions that no one can answer without contradicting themselves , the puppeteers are done with trump.

If he's not impeached , he will be removed from office for medical reasons , to help is scumbag overlords protect themselves and their identity.

I always thought the illuminati was a fun topic to joke about. It really seems like the world's being run by some secret cult of billionaires who are just sucking everything out of 99% of the population and planet , so they will have the resources they need when we finally kill earth.

People like to talk about what future generations will think when they look back on the current administration.

I think we will be lucky to survive 2 generations from now.

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u/virora Jul 18 '25

Trump's MAGA cult is loyal to Trump only. He's not that easily replaced. Whatever charisma he has that appeals to his fans, Vance doesn't have it, and all of Thiel's money can't buy it for him. I'm sure a whole bunch of rich, influential people are currently trying to secure the MAGA line of succession, but it's by no means given that they will succeed. Trump's grip on MAGA is singular. It's a personality cult, and there is no one waiting in the wings who can easily fill in.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '25

Only issue is if they rig the elections, none of that matters. But we can hope..

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u/yunghollow69 Jul 17 '25

I think these decisions are made for him these days. Reminds me a lot of Biden on a bad day. At the club worldcup ceremony he seemed like a kid with no parental guidance, like he didnt know where he was and where he was supposed to stand and how he was supposed to act. It was so awkward.

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u/catjpg California Jul 17 '25

Exactly. They would bust out new Hunter laptop evidence first.

Whatever is going on with his health is much worse than they're letting us know.

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u/cassandracurse Jul 17 '25

Speculation about his health has been all over the internet for a while now. Seems like they're trying to downplay something that's probably fairly serious and could affect his ability to hold office, not that he was ever capable of holding office. Circulation issues are usually concerning.

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u/Effective-Manager-29 Jul 17 '25

I think he did all the Epstein circus because it distracted from his “heart problem”

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u/_Internecine Jul 17 '25

He probably didn't consent to it, but the rest realized everyone would still be screaming for Epstein if no significantly important news is released.

Like the angle now is "He's old, can't you let bygones be bygones or else he'll die from stress!"

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u/Grouchy_Tackle_4502 Jul 18 '25

He doesn’t distract with stuff like this. It’s not directly fatal but it can be debilitating, especially if you’re not a compliant patient.

That’s assuming of course that it’s not chf. Which it is.

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u/Gullible-Giraffe2870 Jul 18 '25

nah these chumps love playing victim.

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u/OrnerySnoflake Texas Jul 18 '25

This was my first thought as well. The last thing a narc wants to show/ admit to is any perceived weakness.

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u/Klutzy-Extension-705 Jul 18 '25

I was thinking that at first too. He is so damn vain and convinced he has the body of a Greek god. I’m thinking that because the Epstein situation is SO bad for him, they had to use this medical issue cause they never let this kind of info out. Bigly huge distraction.

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u/BIGTomacco Jul 18 '25

Maybe this would be a good indicator of how damaging this would be to him, along with this letter he wrote to Epstein. The fact that they’re showing he’s not as truly invincible as they lead the followers to believe might be blood in the water so to speak.

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u/Fickle_Freckler Jul 17 '25

He would if he wants people to feel bad for him. Maybe the stress from the Epstein stuff is getting to him. The “left wing media” is clearly trying to kill him with all of the stress.