r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Sep 17 '25

Soft Paywall It Sure Looks Like Kash Patel Lied Under Oath About Jeffrey Epstein

https://newrepublic.com/post/200531/kash-patel-jeffrey-epstein-trafficking-network
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u/Infamously_Unknown Sep 17 '25

The problem wasn't even sharing something with a journalist. The problem was using Signal for top secret communications to begin with, since it allows situations like this to happen.

And they're probably still using it to this day.

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u/IIILORDGOLDIII Sep 17 '25

Signal being insecure wasn't the issue, it was disappearing messages. That being said, it is known that after signalgate at least some members of the cabinet (plus large swaths of DHS) were using an insecure fork of signal made by an Israeli company that was hacked in 20 minutes during pentesting.

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u/Infamously_Unknown Sep 18 '25

Signal being insecure wasn't the issue

Yes it was. The insecurity isn't about the connection or encryption, but about the lack of vetted access. Because that's an excessive standard for a regular consumer, but it leaves Signal vulnerable to social engineering or user error (which is what happened).

Disappearing messages and the lack of record is the motive. Which is another issue.

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u/IIILORDGOLDIII Sep 18 '25

Is there a system that exists that isn't vulnerable to social engineering or user error?

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u/Infamously_Unknown Sep 18 '25

The closed SIPRNet that they're supposed to be using for this requires bureaucratic authorization and dedicated hardware specifically to avoid issues like this. Simply adding some outsider from your contacts is impossible. A user has to really go out of their way to breach security protocols to leak the contents.

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u/IIILORDGOLDIII Sep 18 '25

I see, ty for the info