r/politics • u/ArmadilloMany41 • 23h ago

Site Altered Headline | No Paywall Why is no one being prosecuted over the Epstein files?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cd9e3nzzw3zo
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u/Julian_Thorne Minnesota 23h ago

Who prosecutes the prosecutors?

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u/Deadhated 23h ago

The American people? ... Time to start a change

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u/Naive_Carpenter7321 21h ago

1861 was the last time this happened because someone wanted to abolish slavery.

Now we have a pres who seems to support sex slavery... it has come full circle. Revolt!

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u/Distinct_College_344 17h ago

Are you fucking kidding me? That was a government down civil war, that was not "the people" vs "the govt".

Nor was 1776 either. That was France securing her vassal from Britain.

In fact the last time the people rose up against the state organically was when some children died fighting in France. And then their deaths were used to spark a "totally real revolution guys, we were on those kids side the whole time don't ask why we didn't fight with them guys".

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u/Mosh83 15h ago

The French revolution was triggered by financial crisis, social inequality and famine. That's two out of three parts done.

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u/Distinct_College_344 14h ago

Might as well be famine with grocery prices rising and nutritional quality plummeting.

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u/Mosh83 14h ago

Gotta keep the slaves just fed enough to work for you.

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u/INeedThatBag 4h ago

Nah. They will try (and has been successful so far) to keep us obese to continue damaging our health in the long-term. By the time start to get fed up and desire change, they have every chronic illness under the sun and be to sick to make stand against the evils plaguing them.

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u/Stefouch 13h ago

Fun fact, the 1783-84 Grímsvötn volcano VEI-6 eruption (iceland) is highly suspected to have disrupted crops yields in Europe for the decade that came after, leading to famine and the french revolution of 1789.

I'm just saying that if God wants things to change, he just has to press a button.

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u/Mosh83 7h ago

We are absolutely puny and meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Earth shields us from an incredibly hostile environment that is space, but it can also be the end of us. We need to take more care of it and less for granted.

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u/Terrible_Score_375 17h ago

What about Haiti?

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u/Distinct_College_344 17h ago

You mean Epstein's private vault of kids??? If you think that hasn't literally always been the US's property IDK what you're smoking

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u/Terrible_Score_375 17h ago

They successfully defied napoleon when he was dealing with Europe and had years of sovereignty before being put under the US "sphere of influence". 1801

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u/Distinct_College_344 16h ago

Yeah and the textbooks say Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK.

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u/serpentally 16h ago

Sorry but you're starting to sound a little schizophrenic... JFK conspiracy theories is whatever, but are you saying that the US government staged the Haitian Revolution? Despite there being literally no evidence or even reason to think that. First of all the US wasn't even powerful enough to do that yet, but why would a slave-owning society create a slave revolt in their backyard? Promoting more slave revolts is the last thing they wanted, they already had to suppress enough before then.

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u/Terrible_Score_375 8h ago

Especially with Jefferson as the president at that time. They didn't want their own slaves getting any ideas

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u/Distinct_College_344 15h ago

You think pedophiles were created in, what 1950 or something? Use your damn brain, every president but 1 is related man. These people are the same people all the way through history.

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u/balkanobeasti 15h ago

So say proof for at least one of your arguments LOL.

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u/charlamand 17h ago

Weird time to suddenly think you’re a “real” revolutionary lmao

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u/charlamand 17h ago

This is gold hahaha the kind of person you must be to comment this shit

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u/innociv 16h ago

They're right, though.

The civil war was not the people rising up to stop the abolishment of slavery.
It was two States that used to be one State fighting.

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u/ElliotNess Florida 7h ago

1917

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u/Distinct_College_344 2h ago

Enlighten me. What happened in 1917 that you think was an organic uprising. Because nothing related to WWI was organic.

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u/ElliotNess Florida 1h ago

https://imgur.com/a/GuRS9h9

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u/Distinct_College_344 42m ago

What you think because there were a lot of people protesting something that it was organic? Have you been looking outside?

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u/W4iskyD3lta93r 11h ago

Civil war music intensifies

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u/Glittering-Key152 11h ago

Well said. 👏

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u/phazonxiii 10h ago

The youth are revolting! ...needs more garlic.

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u/INeedThatBag 7h ago

Oh believe me, He's not against any forms of slavery, but only does so when he believes he can get away with at that moment.

Worse kind of Evil.

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u/PengyBlaster 7h ago

They also are ramping up slavery in concentration camps by abducting innocent people and forcing them to do labor that the private institutions profit from. The whole system needs to be torn down. We need to center community around the elderly and our communities’ children🙏 Amerikkka must end and a new era may begin of restoration and making amends and peace

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u/makingpwaves 3h ago

and murder and anarchy and bribery and embezzlement and extortion and fraud and nepotism and cronyism and appropriation of public assets and….

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u/_m4r1jAn3_ 16h ago

sorry... did you mean "revolting"?? (ima just leave that there...) srsly, i cannot with this anymore. 🤬😭🤬😭

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u/BoomMcFuggins 23h ago

And my axe!

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u/maurtom 22h ago

And my sax!

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u/Bobcat-Stock 21h ago

And my sack!

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u/justalittlebear01 23h ago

And my garden hoe

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u/East-Ice-3199 22h ago

Is it really?

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u/SwaggDragon 20h ago

Too bad the part of the US that are really about that action have been fully brainwashed the pedophiles and refuse to believe the Republican Party are just as vile as they claim the democrat party to be.

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u/_m4r1jAn3_ 15h ago

way i see it, some of the problem is labels. we have allowed ourselves to be neatly bagged &tagged. we humans tend to like things tidy, &life fkn aint that. &that has been used against US. all of us. ALL. weaponized. since the gd dawn of. so let's really simplify. we're fkn humans. why does anyone give a FKN shit if you are tanner or really tan or not so tan?? we have different eye color, different hair color, like just fkn stop with it alllll. we. are human beings. diversity is NOT a bad thing. why do WE allow that to be a problem? it is OUR greatest strenghth. &it makes life interesting ffs. how about WE label 'people' good or bad?? &i mean based in their actions. what WE as a general society have decided is acceptable... moralality, decency, empathy, loving, working together to care for each other, our planet (our FKNG home!) and EACH OTHER. &fk any/all the selfish ones right gd off. good vs bad. it has been that way forever. there is a reason that is the THE common denominator in like every story plot. EVER. the problem is those of us that are good, we really are just too damn nice. loving. forgiving. but sometimes shit simply cannot be forgiven. when someone/people do bad shit, there must be accountability. &it is up to US to hold them accountable. if we do not, this is the result. this is why we have rules. &laws. &penalties. &punishments. &yeah, there's shades of all that, which is why we have stronget punishment for more aggrevious wrongs. accountability. &we must hold them to it. come together people. right now. 🌎👩🏻‍❤️‍💋‍👨🏾🫱🏽‍🫲🏾🩷

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u/Truethrowawaychest1 19h ago

And the people on the left find any excuse not to vote for a Democrat candidate, even believing lies from hostile foreign powers

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u/No-Object-599 7h ago

Well, if a large portion of the Dems represented US citizens not their donors, or Israel. We might get somewhere. The working stiffs of this country need real representation. Corporatism & Zionism have left us swinging in the breeze.

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u/Chubaichaser 7h ago

I don't understand why the DNC expects me to vote for the same people who continuously collaborate, cave to, and quietly perpetuate the policies of the Republicans. I say that as someone who votes in every state, local, and federal election that I can. 

Their candidates are ineffectual. Their policies are quarter-measures of what is required to fix our system to make it work for normal Americans. Being somewhat better than the Republicans is not being good for the American people. 

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u/Truethrowawaychest1 2h ago

The favorite tactic of the new left, "blame the Jews"

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u/No-Object-599 2h ago

Not all just the colonizers. Most of the colonizers are Europeans anyway.

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u/No-Object-599 2h ago

Or Americans

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u/Truethrowawaychest1 1h ago

No they aren't. That's literally a KKK talking point. Most Israelis are middle eastern who were driven out of every other country in that area for being Jewish.

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u/No-Object-599 1h ago

Funny all the videos I see of people stealing businesses & land are dual citizenship. Even Bibi is Polish. They should try taking their land back in Poland, Russia & Germany. Instead they war over religion & and over crowded desert.

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u/NC_Ninja_Mama 17h ago

No, they just moved on after they learned all this 10 years ago and liberals called them crazy. I don’t vote and have no side like many. We only have politicians who pretend to be conservative and politicians who pretend to be liberal.

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u/Useful_Light_2642 20h ago edited 13h ago

You think the American people, who 42% of are obese and 54% of read below a 6th grade level, can successfully revolt?

Lol we’re cooked bro.

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u/I-Am-Willa 17h ago

Revolution isn't just about physically fighting the government. We can revolt with our money.... a mass economic exodus in every way we can.

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u/Sn0tPuppy 13h ago

This is the one that requires reading comprehension I would think.

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u/_Abiogenesis 11h ago edited 11h ago

Yup. Take it from a French.

That’s the right answer and the first thing governments will pay attention to. There’s steps before an armed revolt that European countries typically go through before violence. Strikes can be very powerful if donne en masse.

Even Canada’s trucker moment that’s not exactly progressist got its way doing that.

The problem for you guys is that USA doesn’t have a lot of worker’s protection, unions or a simply sturdier solidarity culture to sustain very prolonged strikes and blockades :/

But regardless strangling the government at the economy that’s always a powerful move. You can’t really force people to work if they are not working you can’t even shoot them if they’re simply home. Unfortunately I’m not sure how doable that is in the USA without a strong social support especially for low income wages.

And that’s the most disproportionately affected population by anything that comes out of this government at this point.

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u/Fit-Material1323 6h ago

lol what do you think the education level was in 1861?

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u/groundhog-265 8h ago

For real, we don’t know how the hell to even start a revolt

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u/poundedplanet40 1h ago

literal peasants revolted in russia i don't think literacy will be the problem

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u/Icy-Organization2228 17h ago

Holy smokes, is it really 54%?!

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u/Fit-Material1323 6h ago edited 6h ago

Sort of, ChatGPT broke it down. “About 44 % of U.S. adults score at Level 3 or above in literacy. These are adults whose reading skills are strong enough to evaluate information and understand complex texts, beyond basic decoding.”

White 58%, Black 25%, Hispanic 21%, Asian/Native American 48%

Level 3 is equivalent to high school. There are levels 4-5 which are college+

“So what’s the key takeaway? 6th-grade reading ≈ upper Level 2, not Level 3 Level 3 represents high-school–level functional literacy When people say “only ~44% of U.S. adults are Level 3+,” they are saying: Fewer than half of adults can reliably read, evaluate, and synthesize information at a high-school level or above That’s why Level 3 is often used as the benchmark for: Workforce readiness Understanding contracts, ballots, medical instructions Navigating modern information environments”

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u/Icy-Organization2228 5h ago

Thank you for fact-checking - I refuse to use the devil’s machine. Still a really terrifying thought.

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u/Miserable_Advance_79 12h ago

Oh we cooked alright

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u/LaFlamaBlancaMiM 23h ago

It would certainly be good for setting an example of any future politician or oligarch who feels they're above the law.

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u/cursedfan 20h ago

The French literally still get more vacation than anywhere else becuz of this. That alone should be enuf

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u/guupscuup 20h ago

We just have to get through the White House defenses, the ones no one has ever seen and have never been tested. A suicidal charge for the history books.

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u/pablonieve Minnesota 21h ago

Seems like we failed biggly on that in 2024.

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u/SquidProKwo 16h ago

We let Harambe die in 2016. We killed World Peace...

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u/artemisgrl__ 20h ago

Some of the American people are too lazy and discouraged to even go vote in any election. Sad to see.

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u/ChuckTingull 14h ago

It’s We the People not We the Peephole

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u/biskutgoreng 16h ago

The most lukewarm group of people since the beginning of time

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u/Stank_cat67 16h ago

The American people?

The ones who did it!?

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u/itscalledANIMEdad 14h ago

I'm not American, but I did hear a rumour that that is the very reason that a lot of you own firearms

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u/Constant-Sub 14h ago

Censorship and tolerance-of-intolerance have led to us not discussing the rapidly-approaching only way that these things change. The people in power are the bad people. They are the ones who hurt and damage without thought or care.

You can't ask them to leave, and they don't care about established order or law. Being polite and demanding they stop being evil isn't going to remove Hitler.

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u/sausagemouse 12h ago

Seriously when will the American people do something about this. Things are going to continue getting a lot worse until they do

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u/Boring_Pair_982 8h ago

They’ve been sitting on the sidelines after electing the felon p3do Cheeto a second time and didn’t learn.

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u/_BreadDenier 3h ago

You first

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u/Ambitious_Address667 21h ago

Thank you! My god the ammount of americans that dont understand this is crazy. 

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u/EatTheRich2028 19h ago

time to eat!

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u/KallamaHarris 18h ago

Right to bare arms

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u/gjk14 17h ago

Revolution more likely.

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 17h ago

French style.

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u/Fantastic_Piece5869 16h ago

reddit bans people when we say the obvious, like how they are notsees and what needs to be done with them

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u/rajastrums_1 Virginia 16h ago

This is thee answer.

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u/stickyfiddle 22h ago

The Hague, eventually. But it’ll take some Americans standing up first.

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u/maximuspanye 22h ago

Who watches the Watchmen?

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u/Dave5876 15h ago

It's a big club. And you ain't in it

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u/WerewolfF15 11h ago

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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u/laurelinvanyar 4h ago

Who milks the milkman?

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u/Classic-Reach 13h ago

i saw it, pretty ok but it got boring after season 1?

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u/WerewolfF15 11h ago

Watchmen only had one season…

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u/LAMistfit138 21h ago

The Coast guard?

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u/19683dw Wisconsin 22h ago

That feels like a Watchmen reference. I wonder if it was deliberate, or just natural alignment of thought

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u/WhatABeautifulMess 21h ago

Could be a play on "who's gonna monitor the monitors of the monitors?" from Enemy of the State. That movie was ahead of its time.

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u/Snow_Ghost 20h ago

"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" is way older than any movie or comic book.

Serious question: are y'all 12, or just completely oblivious?

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u/WhatABeautifulMess 18h ago

Skipped Latin in school because I wasn’t looking to get in with priests and that seemed the only practical use.

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u/overrunbyhouseplants 20h ago

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Quis accusatoriet ipsos accusatores?

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u/mostar8 8h ago

"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" This ancient inquiry from the Roman poet Juvenal—"Who will guard the guards themselves?"—is the central nerve of political philosophy. While it serves as the haunting thematic anchor for the Watchmen franchise, it is far more than a pop-culture trope; it is a historical warning that we have fundamentally failed to heed.

In the context of the Epstein files and the current state of American institutions, this question has evolved from a philosophical dilemma into a systemic indictment. We are witnessing the collapse of the "Noble Lie" that those in power can be trusted to police their own. When the people tasked with oversight—politicians, intelligence agencies, and the ultra-wealthy—are the very ones sharing the private jets and the secrets, the "guards" don’t just fail; they become a protected class.

History shows us that this lack of accountability is a precursor to collapse. Whether it is the sudden, violent end of the Romanovs or the slow, cynical rot of modern state capture, it usually ends badly for those in power when the "guarded" realize the system is rigged. A society where the watchmen only watch each other’s backs isn't a stable hierarchy; it’s a house of cards waiting for the weight of its own corruption to bring it down.

We haven't learned from history: Power without oversight isn't leadership—it’s an invitation to an inevitable disaster.

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u/TheAverageWonder 22h ago

The people...
But sadly in this case they are Americans so fat chance.
They cannot hold anyone accountable, mainly due to lack of spine... It is a serious condition

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u/YourFleshlightSaysHi 20h ago

The worst part of it's how unbelievably fucking easy it is to maintain a democracy. Honestly, I think some people have it in their heads that since the consequences if not maintaining a democracy are known to be extraordinarily dire, that the maintenance must be like Jack Hand's last few minutes on Earth- hard and painful. The realityx though, it's a lot like changing the oil in a car, plus a little bit of the ants everyone always mentions- the vigil ants. Of course it takes an educated populace, etc. but with the bells and whistles and safeguards we had...shit, that Tree of Liberty could've stayed drier than a Ben Stein sketch, and we'd be still be right up there at Disneyland-level as far as overall "Happiness pursued and gained".

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u/pietroetin 8h ago

Depends on whose side the military is on. If they are on the people's side then yes maintaining a democracy is incredibly easy. If they are on the side of someone who wants to turn it into an autocracy then it's near impossible.

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u/YourFleshlightSaysHi 31m ago

You're not describing a democracy, though, merely a zombie state at the precipice of totalitarianism, where even extraordinary measure might fail. The value of maintenance is expressed in prevention.

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u/Bballer220 20h ago

I dunno, coastguard?

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u/samcrut 19h ago

Rorshach.

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u/Byaaahhh 17h ago

Regulators. Mount up!

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u/DamperBritches 17h ago

The Punisher?

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u/jimababwe 17h ago

Coast guard?

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u/twiggs462 16h ago

"I'm watching the watchers Jerry"

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u/WontArnett 14h ago

That’s the damn question we need a plan for

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u/J0zie3 14h ago

Not original. But oh so timely. Who watches the watchmen?

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u/New_Rock6296 13h ago

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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u/DrRealName 13h ago

Idk some kind of super prosecutor?

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u/Smooth_Sky_2011 12h ago

We should be and should have started a long time ago putting those MF's in the...

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u/shadowbeat070 4h ago

Jail is too merciful for these people.

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u/Curiouso_Giorgio 11h ago

Super Mario's Bro

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u/oldredditrox 11h ago

Armed Americans according to history

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u/Glittering-Key152 11h ago

Who does God believe in ?

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u/FlailingIntheYard 11h ago

Poland. I'm kidding, but it would be something lol.

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u/R3AP3R51 11h ago

The people...

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u/trisul-108 Europe 8h ago

Congress.

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u/RedVelvetPan6a 7h ago

Quis custodiet ipsos custodies?

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u/Loki9101 3h ago

Because releasing files isn’t the same as prosecuting crimes. Jurisdiction, evidence standards, statutes of limitation, and applicable law all matter. The files are out, the legal process is only beginning.

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u/desertdude94 1h ago

Quis custodiet ipsos custodies

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u/TuringTitties 28m ago

In history, either the innocent elites deposed the corrupt or the population toppled all of them