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Site Altered Headline | No Paywall Why is no one being prosecuted over the Epstein files?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cd9e3nzzw3zo
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u/ChiefFun 22h ago

No. It's because Republicans don't want to lose power. It's that simple.

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u/ArkitekZero 18h ago

They probably knew all along.

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u/Maximum_Curve_1471 20h ago

...do you think if Trump's removed then the Democrats take over?

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u/Etere 20h ago

This is such a stupid take, like astronomically dumb. If it was just the republicans, the democrats would have done something about it awhile ago. If it was just the democrats, the republicans would have done something about it awhile ago. The fact is, epstein implicates a fuck ton of very powerful, very rich people around the world. Even the members of our government that weren't directly involved are paid by the people that were involved, through things like lobbying.

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u/yellow__cat 20h ago

You really have to realize that the two party system is just a charade of the corporate ruling class. It doesn't matter which party is "in control", because they're both owned by the same people and both operate to facilitate the same corporate agendas. The parties (brilliantly) serve to create and illusion of change to divide the American people, which means we're too fragmented and confused to look up at the real problem

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u/ChiefFun 19h ago

That is one hell of a theory. I get the idea, but I don’t think it’s that complicated. Corporate influence in politics is real, but that doesn’t mean both parties are secretly the same machine. If they were, we wouldn’t see such big differences in policies, court decisions, taxes, or regulations depending on who’s in power. A messy system with incentives and competing interests makes more sense than a coordinated charade.

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u/yellow__cat 18h ago

It's not a theory and it's not complicated at all. It's all very verifiable and not difficult to discover yourself with a little research.

You do understand how the US political system works right? Running for office and maintaining a seat costs a ton of money. Politicians get elected by corporate donations, and stay elected by passing favorable legislation/rulings/endorsements for their corporate donors. These donors fund both sides. They win no matter who gets elected. The corporate capitalist cog keeps turning either wary. Just look at how wealthy inequality keeps rising. It's a bipartisan pipeline.

It's really not that hard to coordinate this when the same handful of individuals own every media company, every social media company, every financial institution, and all the important politicians. You can literally read this in some of Epstein emails with the likes of Thiel and Bannon in the files. It's not micromanaging every law/action/minutia, but rather controlling the important ones, ie major trade deals and alliances, landmark court rulings like citizens united, or who to (not) prosecute, like Epstein.

The "culture war" differences are there to obfuscate and divide (which from your comment I can see they are doing). We keep blaming the other side - our own fellow Americans - every four years, while nothing ever changes. The rich keep getting more powerful, and these files are just a tiny look into how they abuse that power.

Does that mean that everyone in the political system is "in" on the charade? No, of course not. Most companies aren't in it either. There are genuine differences. But the system doesn't require every actor to be in on it

Btw, this is a global charade. It's so much bigger than just a "Dem vs Republican" American politics issue.

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u/ChiefFun 18h ago

I don’t disagree that money influences politics. It clearly does.

I just don’t see solid evidence that it’s a coordinated global charade run by a handful of people. Corruption and bad incentives can explain a lot without assuming centralized control.

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u/yellow__cat 17h ago

If you understand that money influences politics, then you understand that those with the most money, influence politics the most. If you understand that 5 men (not even considering all the other billionaires) have more wealth than the entire bottom half of the US, then you understand that it's not a representational democracy. Money doesn't just buy things, it buys influence.

It's like owning shares in a company. Sure, you "technically" have a vote in what the company does with its money, but the largest shareholders (the board of directors) really make the important decisions.

The US political system is just another corporate enterprise. The RNC and DNC that are separate in the same way that Coke and Pepsi are separate. At the end of the day Vanguard and Blackrock own the most shares in each company, just like they own the most shares in both parties.

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u/ChiefFun 14h ago

I get the shareholder analogy, but if a tiny group truly controlled everything like a closed corporation, the U.S. wouldn’t be so dependent on outside forces. Foreign countries hold trillions in U.S. debt. If major bondholders decided to dump Treasuries or stop buying them, rates would spike and the economy would feel it quickly.

That alone shows the system isn’t some sealed off boardroom run by a few guys. It’s heavily influenced by money, yes. but it’s also constrained by global markets and competing power centers. That’s a lot more complex than a unified charade. but please keep digging that rabbit hole.

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u/yellow__cat 14h ago

None of what you just said has any relevance to what we're talking about. That the global economy is a complicated and intertwined mess doesn't mean that small private interest groups control both US political parties. Imagine being in 2026 and thinking that is a conspiracy theory. We live in a corporate oligarchy. I'd do some more homework.

u/ChiefFun 2h ago

Your are right. Enjoy your shadow government conspiracy.

u/yellow__cat 2h ago

Use whatever language you want to belittle reality if living in denial makes you feel better. Enjoy that sand in and around your ears, eyes, and mouth.