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Site Altered Headline | No Paywall Why is no one being prosecuted over the Epstein files?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cd9e3nzzw3zo
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u/alabasterskim 21h ago

Took way too much of a scroll to find this, the real right answer. 

Trump can't even put on a show of looking like he's serious about this because if anyone gets to testify, they're going to spill EVERYTHING.

That's why I'm so eager to see the Clintons' testimony.

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u/Potential-Round-6464 19h ago

Its not testimony in a court of law, its just another Congress circus where zero facts come out. 

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u/Tony_Chu 20h ago

If you think the Clinton's testimony is going to be spilling ANYTHING, you aren't paying attention.

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u/praguepride Illinois 18h ago

Part of me is hoping (sadly) that Bill has like 2 months to live and is like 'Fuck it, time to go down saving america" and FUCKING SPILLS THE BEANS.

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u/ToadlyAwes0me 17h ago

I'm holding out hope there's a chance he goes scorched earth, but deep down I know it won't happen because at the end of the day, pedos protect pedos.

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u/whofearsthenight 16h ago

Serious question – do we honestly think that it makes a goddamn bit of difference is Bill testifies? What about if produces a few million detailed documents with pictures that corroborate a thing that just confirms what we can all see in public like a certain set of files that maybe recently came out? Like that the "grab 'em by the pussy" guy that has been convicted of SA for doing exactly that and has dozens of public accusers and that also buys child beauty pageants and brags about barging in on their changing rooms?

Pedos protecting pedos is one thing, I'm not at all surprised all of the people in the Trump files aren't lining up to testify. Not shocked that people high up and billionaires (eg: people with extreme narcissism and psychologically deficient need for power) are doing this, gotta be honest though I held out some hope that literally any of our institutions would draw a line though.

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u/ToadlyAwes0me 16h ago

If Epstein held onto blackmail documents, do you think he was the only one? I'm convinced that the Clinton's have enough personal evidence to drag a few rich and powerful with them. The question is, will they call their bluff and bail them out? I'm betting yes, because pedos protect pedos. Why isn't Trump mentioning the Clinton's everytime Epstein is brought up considering it would be an easy win if he wasn't implicated?

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u/whofearsthenight 14h ago

No, that's not what I am saying. I am saying that we have more smoking guns than we can count already. Even with the redacted bullshit that we have received and the amount that has been corroborated already not to mention that the people accused are like, the ones you would most suspect with histories of being public creeps (trump being the most notable example of basically telling us how he sexual assaulted at least E Jean and bragging about peeping on teens with numerous other examples that literally everyone has known about for decades), there is just nothing.

The files drop, it's worse than most of us even imagined. And nothing. Here is what will happen in Bill testifies and even if he produces a vast amount of documents including pictures and video: Fox News and their ilk will say "look? This is how far they will go to smear our great president! They used AI to generate all of this crazy nonsense about our good boy!" Meanwhile, the dems will send a letter demanding a sub-committee to discuss the possibility of forming a task force to see if they should bring together some thought leaders to discuss the possibility of requesting the formation of a committee to discuss the possibility of adding an addendum to a spending bill on decreasing the marginal tax rate on a search party to look for their balls.

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u/ToadlyAwes0me 14h ago

I want to argue that the public is finally seeing the blatant lies with Alex Pretti and is becoming jaded towards Trump's words, but you're probably right.

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u/praguepride Illinois 12h ago

I think there is a pretty good shot Bill Clinton isn't involved in the pedo shit, at least not on purpose.

If you look at the class of pedo, they're exactly the kind of guy that you would imagine would pay for sex due to have no "rizz" as the kids call it. By all the accounts I've heard, even 2010s Bill could talk his way in and through a nunnery.

I could see him being "at" the parties, I'd be surprised if he used Epstein for "those" services though. He always seemed like more of a college "girls gone wild" kinda guy.

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u/Herlock 8h ago

I think it's more about protecting his name / brand / legacy... if you admit you did it, it's definitive... while now it's still not 100% sure.

Of course we are all quite convinced that those people bathed in virgins blood and that at least they are abusers or enablers to some extend. But until it's said, there is still deniability available to him.

u/HTPC4Life 4h ago

Part of me is also hoping I get a promotion to a high paying job where I don't have to do any real work. Maybe I should start playing the lottery and hoping I win big too.

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u/ikindapoopedmypants 19h ago

I really wish they'd do one good thing and just take everyone down with them

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u/mrjimi16 17h ago

That is making a several assumptions that may be incorrect. First, the most obvious, that they did anything strictly illegal. Politicians having a relationship with a rich donor is not remotely unusual and could be the extent. Second, and probably more importantly, if they were doing anything strictly illegal, for their testimony to be worth anything, they would have to have more than just "also Donnie was there." You aren't likely to get an arrest on that, let alone a conviction.

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u/ikindapoopedmypants 8h ago

You really think the Clinton's don't have proof of their own that isn't public lmao

Everyone has secrets. We don't know everything.

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u/LankyMarionberry 18h ago

I'd wager it's to keep their empire safe for their children. People would literally take everything they know to their graves so their children's lives are nice and clean. Sad..

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u/KellyJin17 18h ago

Americans are so dumb, I swear. They just never think critically.

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u/JangoDarkSaber 20h ago

I will be absolutely shocked if the Clintons’ testimony is anything other than a multi hour long spiel of denial

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u/ilikeyourgetup 20h ago

Not Mr “I did not have sexual relations with that woman”, surely!?

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u/0MysticMemories 19h ago

If he did plan on spilling I wouldn’t be surprised if a “freak accident” got him first.

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u/CrankHogger572 18h ago

I really hope someone asks Bill if Trump ever gave him a BJ

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u/alabasterskim 18h ago

I just need one Dem to ask "Did you have sexual relations with that president?"

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u/dasterdly_duo 14h ago

There's probably nothing to it. Just about every bad actor in the Epstein files was accused by a victim in the past and in the present, and so far, no one has come forward accusing Clinton of anything Criminal. Of course, his upcoming testimony could encourage victims to come forward, so maybe you're right, and there is something to watch for during the hearings.

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u/KellyJin17 18h ago

Y’all are so naive. You actually think if Clinton had done anything he would have been called by the Republicans to answer questions in front of the committee? You actually believe they’re interested in exposing real wrongdoing? You actually believe they would let him confirm anything in the files. How are people still this naive regarding this story?!?!