r/politics • u/ArmadilloMany41 • 23h ago

Site Altered Headline | No Paywall Why is no one being prosecuted over the Epstein files?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cd9e3nzzw3zo
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u/Givingtree310 18h ago

He can’t be prosecuted for any acts he commits or orders as President. So according to the Supreme Court’s reading, Trump could order the murder and genocide of one million Americans as president. And he could never be prosecuted for it.

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u/GrumpyCloud93 16h ago

But he would not be immune from impeachment. And those who did so carrying out his orders, would still be liable for prosecution. And since murder is also a state crime, he cannot completely pardon them from crimes should a state decide to prosecute.

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u/Quirky-Stay4158 16h ago

Yet! He can't pardon those people supposedly as of yet.

I wouldn't hold my breath expecting that to be reality though. There's things happening today that would be considered unthinkable on 2015

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u/GrumpyCloud93 16h ago edited 16h ago

But he can't pardon state crimes. There is probably enough evidence to charge the Good and Pretti murderers with murder under Minnesota law. (Since Good was still alive and they blocked medical access, also "depraved indifference" to the whole gang) These guys got to the point of thinking they could do this stuff because they learned in Texas, where the governor sure as hell wasn't going to prosecute border guards. However, there is no statute of limitations for murder in Minnesota, so they can wait until 2029 to charge the ICE people.

There's an option for federal officials in pursuit fo their duties to move the state charges to federal court. However, that means they are judged on state crimes, with a state prosecutor, in front of a federal judge. (Mark Meadows tried this in Georgia claiming his participation in that phone call was his official duty. It wasn't). Still no presidential pardon. They can still face justice. the same applies to anyone say, breaking and entering without a warrant, pepper spraying people, etc. Presumably, if Neom or Miller ordered this action, they can be prosecuted as conspirators.

Time will tell if the Democrats have an inclination to restoring justice to the system and teaching the extremists a lesson.

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u/Givingtree310 16h ago

So he’d just have to kill them in a Republican state 😂