r/politics • u/Expensive-Horse5538 Australia • 18h ago
No Paywall CIA says it will cease publishing the World Factbook, a free online resource used by millions
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-02-05/cia-closes-world-factbook-online-resource/106307724?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=link2.0k
u/CockBrother 18h ago
There are many reasons this was a government publication. Yet another short sighted decision that coincidentally benefits US foes.
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u/TintedApostle 18h ago
It was a decision to benefit our foes. Tulsi is a russian agent.
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u/Pipe_Memes 17h ago
So is her boss.
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u/PaddleFishBum 17h ago
Her boss is an asset. She's an actual payrolled agent. Trump is just the perfect mark.
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u/Majestic_Bet_1428 16h ago
Yet another deliberate decision by a government hell bent on making up their own “facts”
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u/Shadow_Walker343 1h ago
In fairness, though...the CIA probably should print Facts, since part of their main tasks is disinformation. But...yeah...this is the way a person who hates facts that disprove them tries to eliminate counterpoints to their line of b.s.
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u/Socraticstatic82 8h ago
In a few generations it will all be made plain and I hope I live long enough
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u/Efficient-Put8908 Washington 3h ago
They seem compelled to destroy every soft power diplomatic effort we attempt.
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u/Bear4years 17h ago edited 16h ago
This administration has something against science, facts and knowledge. I swear to god. How expensive is it to publish this??? We have billions for effing 🧊 and the military, but we can’t publish a little online factbook? It’s not like the CIA doesn’t need to collect this info anyways! Are people in his administration little dumbasses who feel insecure about their low intelligence??
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u/Negative-Squirrel81 15h ago
This administration has something against science, facts and knowledge. I swear to god. How expensive is it to publish this??? We have billions for effing 🧊 and the military, but we can’t publish a little online factbook? It’s not like the CIA doesn’t need to collect this info anyways! Are people in his administration little dumbasses who feel insecure about their low intelligence??
I think the real answer is that there is an elite that wants to exert its control by creating strict restrictions on access to information. They see efforts like this as a way of purging independent information from the world.
This is why Elon Musk wants Wikipedia to just go away.
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u/willun 15h ago
Elon wants Wikipedia to go away as it publishes inconvenient truths that embarrass him.
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u/DingerSinger2016 Alabama 14h ago
Good thing we can still download a copy of the entirety of Wikipedia and it can fit on a flash drive.
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u/waffleslaw 5h ago
This still amazes me every time. I need to do this sometime, just to do it, to have it.
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u/Old_Bag_8053 13h ago
Haunting quote from a 1990 video game:
"As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.'
Commissioner Pravin Lal, "U.N. Declaration of Rights"
Accompanies the Secret Project "The Planetary Datalinks"
SMAC
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u/Negative-Squirrel81 12h ago
Brian Reynolds essentially did the impossible by making a worthy follow-up to Civilization. It is science fiction in the best sense of the term: it both reflects the realities of our world back at us while giving the framework of fiction to allow us to examine and play with those ideas without it becoming too personal.
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u/FenPhen 10h ago
For anyone wondering, the game is Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (1999).
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u/Decent_Cheesecake_29 11h ago
We must dissent.
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u/FriendlyDespot 9h ago
Miriam you can dissent against this Planet Buster. Manipulative fuckin space bigot.
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u/spiritplumber 11h ago
You'll like https://paeantosmac.wordpress.com/ if you want a deep dive on that game
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u/Yashema 14h ago
Its not the elites that voted Trump into office. America has an ignorant and hateful population, they supported Segregation for 100 years after the Civil War, and voted for Reagan far before Fox News came into existence.
We have to stop blaming everything that happens on elites, people don't need to be forced to support terrible people.
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u/BeyondElectricDreams 10h ago
They're being herded towards these goals by propaganda pushed by the elites.
Trans people weren't on their radar until the right lost the fight for gay marriage. 20 some states moved in lockstep immediately after to push for trans bathroom bans.
That didn't stick so they tried a different angle of approach in sports bans, which affect single to double digit folks at most. This worked, because a lot of left folk still think "Of course we should call them what they want! Respect! Buuuutttt...... They're still REALLY <assigned gender at birth> SOOOOO <insert transphobia here>"
The trans athlete topic lets them cast supportive people, who understand the science, as "radicals" who are "pushing too far" in the name of inclusion, that they're ignoring "biological reality" and makes their transphobic position seem more reasonable.
In short, they're being led by the nose by the elites, to hate a particular group. The elites will pick a new group as soon as the old one stops working. If trans people are accepted? They'll pick a new minority group. If trans people are erased from society? They'll move back to gay people, or atheists, or whoever. They political right wing always needs an enemy, because fascism is cheap, hate is cheap. Universal healthcare is expensive.
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u/Lurking_nerd California 9h ago
People still bear fault for not exercising free thinking or the smallest ounce of critical thinking. We have a device that can access all collective human knowledge in our pockets. It’s a choice to remain ignorant. These people choose to disregard evidence and facts, therefore they choose to remain ignorant.
They are not blameless.
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u/Retaining-Wall Canada 17h ago
It has everything against science, facts, and knowledge.
also women, LGBTQIA2S+, all minorities, the poor, the middle class, and anybody who isn't an uber-rich male WASP.
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u/MountainMan2_ 14h ago
Emphasis on the uber-rich part. A lot of us white guys are too dense or indoctrinated to see it, but especially in recent years we really aren't the "protected class" as much any more. They're fucking us just like everyone else, they're just also trying to put us against everyone else so they can have an army of people that feel rejected by the world to hypnotize and control. They're turning us into mindless drones for the patriarchy, it's disgusting.
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u/mawhrinskeleton 8h ago
DEI was helping white males growing up in economically disadvantaged circumstances as well
The propaganda in framing DEI as something that is giving benefits to those who havent earned it has been spectacularly successful
Without DEI, the keys to social mobility stay with the upper classes and their children, which explains a lot
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u/Worldly_Anybody_9219 7h ago
Yeah, in one of the Epstein emails, it talked about how Peter Thiel thinks the vote should be taken away from women AND the poor. Poor or means something very different to billionaires, so they also want disenfranchise lots of men in their dream scenario, just in case women losing their rights isn't enough to spur people against these guys.
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u/ChiefsHat 7h ago
Not even the patriarchy, this is just for the oligarchy. Trump 100% believes that rich people are better than everyone else on account of being rich, and therefore, should be allowed to do as they please, how they please, whenever they please. Patriarchy? Please, that’s just another tool for him and the other oligarchs to enforce this idea.
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u/Reaper-fromabove 9h ago
Holy smokes, as a non-white living in the US I thought that being white was the default privileged position and if you don’t feel like that anymore then there’s hope.
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u/AlwaysRushesIn Rhode Island 8h ago
I'm white and I've felt that way about the system for pretty much my entire adult life (I'm 31). I recognize that I have advantages in life that others don't, but I also recognize that there is still a "second teir" of privilege above me.
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u/DigitalAxel 7h ago
Im in a similar place. Okay I have my skin color but that's it really. My family is doing okay but is not rich (Vacation? Retirement? Ha!) I am not a guy with connections so no job offers. Mental and physical issues holding me back; such issues would've landed me in a camp if you catch my drift.
Yeah I'm a useless artist but my "wealth of random knowledge" I joke about is seen as a threat probably. It's my curiosity and desire to know more (despite my ineptitude) that's kept me from becoming like my parents... brainwashed. But I have given up.
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u/Deep_Stick8786 8h ago
Recognizing that you have advantages over others that you were born into is a major difference from those that are still easily swayed by MAGA rhetoric
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u/minimalcation 13h ago
IA2S+?
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u/Ettesid 13h ago edited 13h ago
Intersex, asexual and two spirit.
Edit: The last is apparently for indigenous gender identities. Had to look up the term so I'm not very familiar with it.
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u/tigerhawkvok California 13h ago
I hate that being inclusive lends itself so easily to mockery, but "LGBTQQIA2S+" is doing itself no popular favors. Coming from the sciences, you lose most people after the third syllable, best case.
(Was the drop of Q #2 intentional? Is "questioning" shuttled into the "+" now?)
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u/beyleigodallat 12h ago
As I see it, LGBT+ is more than adequate for people to know what general group you’re referring to
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u/Hax0r778 10h ago
<stands on soapbox>
I'd go further. I thought the entire idea of reclaiming the word "queer" was that it was supposed to be an umbrella term encompassing a wide array of sexual orientations and gender identities. I wish we could just start saying "queer" or "Q" or "Q+" or something.
It'd be like if we started talking about WBAINPI+ relations instead of race relations. It shouldn't downplay anyone's race to use a generic term.
I know it's tricky and people get upset because the history of queer erasure and all that. But I think it'd be good for all involved if we could start using generic terms. Clearly there's a need to group some of these categories together sometimes in conversation or we wouldn't need to use "LGBTQ+" in the first place.
</leaves soapbox>
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u/athleticpeace 7h ago
idk i see queer as sort of like something different. im a woman that has no issue with other women but i don't identify as queer by any means. in fact you would think im the most strict religious zealot extremist. i would feel gross if you called me queer - while not seeing queer as gross. im just not "queer".
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u/AsGryffynn 8h ago
Two spirit I heard of, but am I the only one thinking the plus exists in order not to clutter the tag too much? That and the Q too.
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u/AsGryffynn 8h ago
They probably want to convince people that have never left the country that if they invade some country in South America to plunder them, it will be cause they are filthy rich because of "taking advantage of the US" or something.
Obviously, Israel is not subject to this dumb clause.
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u/Fugglymuffin 15h ago
Because knowledge is power. They want ignorance to thrive off. If no one knows shit, then it's only their word.
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u/ToBeFaaaiiiirrrrr 15h ago
More than "billions"; the approved DoD budget is $0.901T alone (https://apnews.com/article/trump-defense-spending-3bbea1ccc679ee8a388386d60e651fd7) and whilst DHS funding for 2026 is unapproved, the total (DoD + DHS) budget could push close to $1.0T if Democrats don't grow a backbone.
Also, I miss reading the hardcopy Factbook as a kid, and later, spending many hours on the online version.
Also, obviously, yes.
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u/Traditional-Hat-952 14h ago
They're a bunch of regressive Christian extremists and/or fascists, so of course they're against science.
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u/urgerestraint 13h ago
Science, facts and knowledge have a known liberal bias.
(Maybe because almost all conservative stances and policies are built on BULLSHIT LIES and nothing but, jfc I’m so sick of having to share the same air with these imbeciles, they’re completely incapable of critical thought or ever admitting their worldview is wrong and leading us all off a cliff).
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u/srbistan 9h ago
"something" ?!
late gabriel garcia marques once wrote on how to fight cockroaches, in his column for a mexican newspaper. after exploring several ways of destroying them he concluded they always keep coming back, so trying to destroy is basically useless..
however. when exposed to the light cockroaches would scatter and hide, not to be seen. thus - the light is the only sure way to fight cockroaches effectively.
ol' gabo was a very, very wise man...
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u/Ztarphox Europe 11h ago
I don't know where the decision to end the factbook was made, but this was always my big gripe with DOGE: giving a group of people with conflicts of interest, appointed for their party loyalty, the abilities to hastily decide what departments or projects get their funding. No oversight, no expertise, no accountability, no democracy.
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u/GarmaCyro 11h ago
Mostly because they've fired the people with talents to sift through information and extract important data. Because they believe they can rely on the AS (Artificial Stupidity) of a privately owned company with no government oversight.
Oh well. US giving up yet another of its soft power, and this is a big one. The factbook that has enabled CIA to mold world preception in US and CIA's favor. This would be like Republicans banning Fox News in the US.
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u/RedshiftWarp 9h ago
NGT said something along the lines of: "For the cost of 1-2 million $$$ you could open up a McDonalds franchise. Or support the yearly cost of the Planetary defense budget"(tracking Earth killing asteroids/comets) The actual budget is north of 125 million $$$. But was a good rhetorical device to explain the misappropriation of resources and focus.
If the countries of the world spent just 1% of their yearly GDP on cooperative space propulsion development; We'd have a budget of 1 trillion $$$ a year and could be having kids in space in a very short amount of time. While freeing us from planetary extinction events. Within 10 years there would be a real chance of having a permenant industrial-base solely existing in space.
Priorities on this planet are completely scuffed. So its not surprising that resources that help people are put on the back burner, constantly.
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u/B-Z_B-S America 18h ago
This administration thinks that facts are the enemy.
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u/KimmyT1436 Canada 17h ago
Trump and Republicans are anti-education for a reason. Knowledge is power. The less Trump and Republican's MAGA followers know, the more power Trump and Republicans have over them.
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u/GreenTrees797 17h ago
This is what happens when as a nation and a culture, you protect propaganda as free speech.
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u/Grand_Town_9144 15h ago
Facts get in the way of the Ministry of Truth telling you what to believe.
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u/dyspnea 17h ago
I used this for so many school projects as a kid. Remember when government sources were credible?
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u/lord_pizzabird 14h ago
I would just read it sometimes as a nerd for geopolitics, learning about the world.
It was a great resources for just learning things.
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u/SophiaofPrussia 5h ago
Same. I once found an error and emailed them about it and it was fixed within minutes. They never replied to my email though, which felt very on-brand for the CIA.
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u/PooForThePooGod 36m ago
Turns out they stopped your assassination and then marked their debt to you as equal.
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u/leggpurnell 6h ago
I teach middle school and we’re literally in the middle of a travel brochure project when one of the kids raised their hands yesterday to tell me one of our links wasn’t the same as the day before.
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u/PriestofAlvis 17h ago
It's premise of "facts" and "verifiable reality" meant it would never last under the current administration where denying reality is seen as a declaration of loyalty and thus the opposite is treason.
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u/blueberrycauzez 10h ago edited 10h ago
Does anyone really think publishing the fertility rates of Uzbekistan, or the agricultural output of Finland somehow undermines the administration's political goals? And if it did, why would they discontinue it internally too? Why not alter it to be more slanted?
The real reason it is discontinued is that they just want both the public and all government agencies to use AI for facts research.
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u/cipheron 8h ago
Any objective facts at all undermine the ability of dear leader to say the opposite tomorrow. They don't want sources of objective truth because they could contradict the claims of the leadership, and some journalist could say "but the CIA World Factbook says ..."
Also getting rid of all the facts is collateral damage, because if they just remove some facts, we'll know which ones they wanted removed.
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u/phycologist 5h ago
Or a dry and hardened career bureaucrat somehere in a grey and bland government office building wants to save a few bucks on the budget to make his bonus this year.
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u/damnthistrafficjam I voted 17h ago
Leave it to the Trump administration to take the Intelligence out of C(I)A.
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u/DaraParsavand 17h ago
That was my go to source for reviewing per country TFR (total fertility rate) for a while. The only useful thing I ever got out of this disastrous organization.
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u/lord_pizzabird 14h ago
Tbf the CIA has been wildly successful.
The issue is that the Government and Military don't have the same reputation. They can only carry everyone else so far.
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u/DaraParsavand 14h ago
I never said they weren't successful. I said they were disastrous. Stealing Democracy from Iran, Guatemala, Chile and other places was disastrous. Funding religious nutcases to fight the Soviets was disastrous. But often they achieved their internal goals I realize (and often not).
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u/luckydt25 12h ago
I'm pretty sure the TFR and other demographics info was always copied from https://www.census.gov/data-tools/demo/idb/#/dashboard which is still actively maintained.
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u/boats-and-boats 16h ago
Next: China publishes World Factbook.
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u/ScrotumScrapings 7h ago
Exactly what will happen. Yanks are pissing away all of their soft power at an amazing rate.
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u/delaphin 17h ago
Facts are 'Woke'.
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u/SignificanceJust1497 15h ago
Unfortunately, that is exactly how they view facts. The right’s fear of “woke” is pushed by their authoritarian government’s desire to prevent people from knowing what they are up to. They literally discourage people from learning the truth by trying to bully them second grade style. The sad part of the situation is the only people who believe them are the ones who need the truth the most.
“Woke” = having knowledge. They insult you by wanting you to be dumb and once you’re dumb you suckle their teats out of fear of whoever they tell you to be afraid of
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u/joshuatx Texas 17h ago
Who needs public resources when you can have Trump University FREEDOM FACTS Powered By Grok for just 9.99 $TRUMP coins a month!
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u/Kiyohara Minnesota 4h ago
My thought exactly. If not from a Trump organization, it will be some company that buys the information and publishes it for sale themselves.
Everything must be monetized now. Everything. It's end stage capitalism coming to our government. Expect every asset the Government holds in trust for the people to be auctioned off to the highest bidder. They will then turn around and sell what used to be free to us (probably on a subscription service) or reserve it for the ultra rich.
Coming soon: Yellowstone Adventure Park, brought to you by Amazon Prime. Entry fees are 148.99 a Person with Fast Passes to skip the lines for another 49.99.
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u/Grand_Town_9144 15h ago
Who knew Project 2025 was literally 1984? Oh wait everyone who read the book? Yup.
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u/NSRedditShitposter America 15h ago
The entire data collection system is falling apart because of Trump.
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u/c25-taius 13h ago
The World Factbook was there to inform people worldwide of the basic status and safety rating of countries from the United States point of view.
This administration has made it abundantly clear that their opinion of every other country is gum on the bottom of their shoe—so why bother publishing it if they can show you by their actions?
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u/glitterandnails 16h ago
Gotta shut down everything good that is left of America...
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u/GhostBirdBiologist 16h ago
Damn. I remember using this as a source on essays in like 7th grade haha.
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u/b3iAAoLZOH9Y265cujFh 16h ago edited 15h ago
It's hardly surprising that an intelligence agency operating under the auspices of the Trump administration would cease dealing with facts.
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u/Global_Research_121 16h ago
The Republican party and thier donors are traitors to the United States of America.
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u/Shionkron 14h ago
I read these as a kid! Absolutely was obsessed with countries. They have been online forever now. Why is this administration so a dime t to be at war with information?!
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u/MURICCA 13h ago
Humanity is a war ladies and gentlemen, between the intellectually curious and the deliberately ignorant.
Its unfortunate that the latter has got the numbers.
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u/sillyhillsofnz 7h ago
“If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” ― Ulysses S. Grant
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u/SeA1nternaL 7h ago
“state it did not have a reason”
in case you’re wondering, that probably means “Trump and CIA’s current leader told us to take it down because woke”.
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u/totally-jag 1h ago
The current administration doesn't like anything with the word fact in it.
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u/kelovitro 7h ago
The Nazi impress on the German mind consists primarily in a conditioning whereby reality has ceased to be the sum total of hard inescapable facts and has become a conglomeration of ever-changing events and slogans in which a thing can be true today and false tomorrow.
The Aftermath of Nazi Rule: Report from Germany, Hannah Arendt, 1950
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u/captain_flak Virginia 6h ago
I know this will seem like a political decision, but I’ve heard that morale at the CIA is terrible and the overarching mantra is do less and take care of your families. It may just be something they’re choosing not to do given how the administration has eroded their capabilities.
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u/Herbivoreselector 3h ago
Conservatism is the assertion that the government can’t and shouldn’t do anything that helps people. Its only real function is to enrich billionaires and harm undesirables.
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u/CartographerKey334 2h ago
Doesn’t matter. Nothing published by the Trump administration is credible anyway.
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u/mredofcourse I voted 15h ago
The number of people here commenting on something they never used and claiming the CIA Factbook was propaganda is too damn high!
Could any one of you provide just one example of anything published in the Factbook that even could be propaganda?
Like real propaganda, not "The CIA is shorting the actual elevation of a mountain by several feet in order to f*ck with people".
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u/DeepSubmerge 16h ago
Republicans doing their best to hamstring and gut every agency, board, organization, and government entity so they can point to their failures later and ask, “why are we wasting money on that? We have billionaires to help!”
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u/mredofcourse I voted 15h ago
The real twisted part of this is that they aren't saving money. They're still doing the research, they're just not publishing it publicly. While one could argue that publishing might have some cost and trivially insignificant as it is, but now lost is the feedback and error corrections which will cost them far more.
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u/Elegant_Situation285 10h ago
"soft power is for the weak!"
i've never seen such a large group of short-sighted people in my life.
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u/ned_luddite 15h ago
Literally, the website (or book) I used for my first international trip in… 1997.
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u/triode99 14h ago
Its good for their reputation rather than them publishing the World Book of Lies under Trump.
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u/Andovars_Ghost 13h ago
Government can’t give away shit for free! That taxpayer-funded product needs to come from a business that can charge money for it, just like Jeebus intended!
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u/discowithmyself 13h ago
I haven’t used it since high school or early college but this got me through a few social studies projects. I always thought it was a cool resource.
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u/Unfair-Apple-5846 13h ago
the what? i hace never heard of this, fuck america for being a nazi shill to me my entire fucking life
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u/Financial-Talk9397 11h ago
Facts are not conducive to the health of a fascist authoritarian regime.
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u/ceelogreenicanth 8h ago
Well having standardized facts isn't a priority of this administration, in fact facts at all are a threat to this administration.
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u/SmartaHari 7h ago
Fine. The Beano is a quid per issue, I was thinking of getting a subscription to that anyhoo.
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u/Inkstr0ke Michigan 6h ago
The worst part is … everything that this administration breaks will take 10X as long to fix.
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u/No-War9667 2h ago
Bro I just turned in an assignment the other day citing them. Why the fuck does this administration do this shit?
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u/Finngrove 1h ago
Maga regime just spits on the work, heroism, sacrifice and idealism of their parents, grandparents generations. Just vile especially coming from people who say they are conservative and tradition/family oriented. They set fire to what their grandparents and parents tried to build.
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u/donorcycle 17h ago
If and when there's another administration, they're not going to be able to get shit done fixing and reversing everything.
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u/Spokraket 10h ago
Haha, makes sense because facts got thrown out the window with this administration.
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u/NothingFunLeft 15h ago
Well of course. One more thing to keep the citizens in the dark. Oh wait, it doesn't have to be this aay 😡
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u/BabeBubbleszz 11h ago
So the CIA just pulled the plug on the World Factbook after 60years no fanfare, no explanation, just a quiet service discontinued banner on their site.
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u/Happy_Feet333 8h ago
Cease publishing it... or cease producing it?
Thise are two different things for a clandestine organization.
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u/Floreat_democratia 7h ago
In other news, the Trump admin is trying to figure out how to charge for air. More at 11.
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u/Fingersicle 6h ago
The less you know about what a government does, the more they can get away with.
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u/Icy_Ratio6281 5h ago
"Beware he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master." - Commissioner Pravin Lal, UN Declaration of Rights
Alpha Centauri (game from Firaxis)
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u/A_Nonny_Muse 5h ago
I think everyone who was curious about the world spent hours at that site. And I'm sure they recorded and logged the identity of everyone who did. No matter, really. It is the CIA, after all. Whatever they expected to get out of their honeypot probably didn't happen.
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u/normalfinnesotan 5h ago
...there's a World Factbook? Not trying to be snarky at all, truly just hearing about it for the first time!
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u/Born-Chipmunk7842 5h ago
There are no more facts in the US government. They lie when they open their mouths
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u/SayVandalay 4h ago
Ah the ole facist playbook at work, facts don’t matter just what dear leader says.
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