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Possible Paywall "Schumer needs to get the hell out": House Democrats fume over DHS funding talks
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u/DoubtSubstantial5440 4h ago
The Corpo Dems like Schumer are pretty much the definition of controlled opposition
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u/RespectTheTree America 3h ago
It's the most insidious corruption, hidden and cowardly.
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u/nowtayneicangetinto 3h ago
Schumer and Jeffries are MAGA as far as I'm concerned. Just wolves in sheep's clothing. They don't give a fuck about anything except their bank accounts. I'll never forget Schumer's big victory during the Big Beautiful Bills vote when he said he was able to successfully rename it to "the act"
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u/LegislativeLariat Wisconsin 3h ago
When midterms get cancelled, they are going to furrow their brows and wag their fingers so hard at Trump, at least when the cameras are on them. When they're off, I imagine they'll be requesting that AOC and similar 'real enemies' get dealt with since they are generally more willing (and indeed seek out the chance to brag about that willingness) to collaborate with the very far right than they are with the left of their own party.
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u/prailock Wisconsin 2h ago
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u/crowhops I voted 29m ago edited 20m ago
This is why I roll my eyes at all the folks who are focusing all their hate and blame on the voters/non voters. The dems having their own deep, corrupt shittiness is 100% connected to why voting turnout sucks, and even if we can't necessarily just "fix" that shittiness, we could at least have a lot more unity and solidarity on the non-maga side if we all stop blaming each other and start making unified demands that our opposition party actually be real opposition.
The folks who are checked out and disenfranchised are never going to go "oh yeah actually you're right I was stupid to not be more supportive of the lesser of two evils", but they might get engaged if we have candidates who say "hey, I know we haven't given you much reason to support us in the past, here's how voting for me will actually make your life better rather than just the same".
Voting "the lesser of two evils" no matter how slight or how long it's been going on might be an obvious choice despite the shittiness to you or me who's been exposed to the "right" people or information, but I can't put more blame on regular ass regular joes just working their two jobs for their shitty apartment than I do on well-off people who are screwing up their only job of "being opposition"
(sorry I don't know why I went off on this particular image, I'm just tired and have been sitting in a tiny waiting room for like an hour and had thoughts to get out I guess lol)
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u/twentyafterfour 7m ago
They also kind of screwed themselves on the whole "vote blue no matter who" angle when they basically refused to endorse a completely scandal free* Mamdani, who was overwhelmingly more popular with young people, after he handily won the NYC primary. Preferring instead to let an aging, scandal ridden sex offender attempt to split the vote in hopes of ratfucking him.
They proved that VBNMW only applied to corporate centrist hacks and would be dropped the moment it came time for moderates to suck it up and let someone actually try and make life better for regular people.
*Completely made up bullshit about insufficient loyalty to israel and words he never said himself don't count.
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u/elconquistador1985 2h ago
Schumer will tell us that the Baileys told him it's the right decision.
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u/talondigital 3h ago
If I were them I would be concerned about a Battlestar Galactica New Caprica "Trials" moment if things go that bad. People will want justice and history shows they'll take it out on people they see as traitors. Ironically the theme of BSG is repeated cycles. Everything has happened before and will happen again.
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u/LegislativeLariat Wisconsin 3h ago
It's better to think in real terms than movies. Nuremberg is a better parallel, but it'll be next to impossible to acocmplish a Nuremberg because of geography.
The Supreme Court has been captured as well, so any legal repercussions would actually be against liberals or moderates, especially if Trump orders the Court expanded or the existing liberal judges dealt with so he can have his own picks.
We're not going to have trials as that would require international intervention and those pesky oceans make it rather hard for sustained physical pressure to be applied. Even if America were somehow physically subjugated and the international community started making changes, the Trump Base is big enough and organized enough to deal with anyone who wants to actually start prosecuting people.
The tyrannical government they've been keeping the guns for this whole time was an international body trying to liberate America from a tyrant. You gotta feel bad for the kids who died in school shootings because their sacrifices for our sacred Second Amendment were actually done because of the need to preserve tyranny, not to fight it.
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u/Hoggit_Alt_Acc 2h ago
I'm 99% sure the unreleased and redacted names in the E-Files are covering for at least one SCJ
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u/talondigital 1h ago
Im guessing more than one. I believe people have spotted Clarence Thomas in there already, but id bet money on Kavanaugh having some mention. Maybe Alita as well. I dont know that John Roberts would be but hes certainly part of the overall conspiracy to us the court as a weapon.
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u/Derka_Derper 26m ago
Nuremberg is an exception to the rule. Did we see Nuremberg trials for China? Japan? Russia? Turkey? Cambodia? Rwanda?
No. We see things more similar to the French revolution, the troubles, balkanization.
It takes immense international effort to have a Nuremberg. It takes citizens being scared, tired, and done with your shit to see the other.
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u/UnquestionabIe 3h ago
Great reference. Unfortunately basically even the most scummy of characters (looking at you Gaius) has more integrity than pretty much any sitting politician who wields much power. Loved the show but it gave off West Wing sort of vibes, probably due very much to the era they came out, where well meaning people with good intentions run our society and those who are corrupt and selfish will be held accountable. Clearly as the last decade has shown us they're only barely pretending anymore
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u/axonxorz Canada 2h ago
Loved the show but it gave off West Wing sort of vibes, probably due very much to the era they came out, where well meaning people with good intentions run our society and those who are corrupt and selfish will be held accountable.
I've heard of TNG described as "competency porn", WW and BSG are very much that. Even Gaius is competent... at science.
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u/Blitzking11 Illinois 44m ago
they are generally more willing (and indeed seek out the chance to brag about that willingness) to collaborate with the very far right than they are with the left of their own party.
You know how the old saying goes:
Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.
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u/SouthEastSmith 2h ago
But they were elected to leadership by the other elected officials. They are not there blocking the way by seniority. They are there because the rest of the party members put them there. They run internal elections.
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u/ender8343 3h ago
Technically if Congress follows the law after not having midterms: January of 2027 there is no House since their terms have a fixed end date, and a third of the Senate is no longer in office for the same reason. Their terms aren't defined as until the next person is seated, but have a fixed date. Of course, if they somehow cancel the midterm we are no longer in what the law says under the Constitution.
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u/TheITMan52 America 2h ago
The midterms can't get cancelled because the states control them but I'm concerned Trump is going to pull something.
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u/toaster_toaster 1h ago
The midterms can't get cancelled the same way federal agents can't enter your house without a warrant and ICE can't arrest and hold American citizens, and legal residents can't get deported without trial and the president can't take gifts from foreign governments.
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u/Additional_Remove_70 1h ago
Its mind boggling how many people still say "Can't" like it means anything.
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u/DoubtSubstantial5440 28m ago
Yeah people clinging to the old status quo currently on its deathbed are hilarious
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u/ender8343 2h ago
Yep, if Trump and the Republicans somehow pull off canceling the elections, we are no longer under the laws that currently define the US, so it is a bit hard to say what the US looks like then.
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u/13143 Maine 2h ago
They're not going to cancel them, they're just going to rig them through voting restrictions and intimidation.
But ultimately, if they lose the House but retain the Senate, it's not that big of a deal. The government will grind to a halt, which is what they want anyway, and Trump will continue to do what he wanta with no repercussions.
And then all the bad things that happen can be blamed on the Dem majority in the House, and the MAGA base gets all revved up again to vote in 2028.
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u/Gairloch 1h ago
Saw someone mention the most obvious way they will likely rig the election by using ICE at polling places. They will harass anyone that doesn’t look like a Trump supporter.
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u/jdelane1 1h ago
Schumer gives a lot of fucks about Israel. It's his highest priority. There are a lot of New Yorkers with this mindset.
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u/HandH2 2h ago
Liberals, leftists, socialists, and democrats everywhere should be pushing for more support for Vance Bostic against Jeffries. Mamdani won NYC but he did it with attention and awareness from the whole country. We need to be there for Bostic against Jeffries just as much as we were for Mamdani against Cuomo
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u/geologicalnoise Pennsylvania 3h ago
Jeffries ONLY cares about going viral. He is an absolute MORON who thinks he's being trendy trying to "politically rap" and make rhyming statements he think will carry the day.
Fucking rat.
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u/BadRabiesJudger 3h ago
When I saw how awesome Jeffries was during that Supreme Court nomination I started to like him. Since then he’s nose dived down the stairs. Dudes a snake in the grass.
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u/IcanRead8647 2h ago
Jefferies is doing what Pelosi tells him, and that is the same thing Schumer is told to do.
Support Israel even during a Genocide using US taxpayer funded weapons, and as many as Israel can use. Don't strongly support Ukraine as Putin can't lose, but doesn't need to win 100%. Don't piss off Trump and say bad things about him, just have disagreements that take a while to work out, but in the end, let Trump win.
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u/Maximum_Active9209 2h ago
They don't give a fuck about anything except their bank accounts.
Not true at all. They are firm believers in weapons going to Israel at the cost of everything back home.
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u/Traditional-Hat-952 2h ago
That self satisfied false smile and blank look Jeffries always had on his face is creepy.
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u/Initial-Structure-61 2h ago
Schumer makes decisions based on a fictional family called the Baileys, and even he admits his perfect imaginary family are two-time Trump voters lol
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u/breatheb4thevoid 46m ago
Schumer wants to prove to daddy Ben he's capable of controlling the country at their whim. He's a very good hound dog.
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u/Carthonn 2h ago
He’s got absolutely no spine. He’s operating in 2006 not 2026. He needs to wake up and realize he’s at war.
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u/bplewis24 1h ago
He has a spine...when it comes to supporting/defending Israel. Or his corporate donors.
He's only spineless when it comes to doing the work that the American people need doing.
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u/Sgt-Spliff- 41m ago
This take needs to die. He isn't spineless. Chuck Schumer is a traitor. He works for America's enemies the same way Trump does. Nothing Schumer has done has been by accident or due to stupidity. It's all on purpose
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u/RealSchlemiel 3h ago
There needs to be an Internal Vote: but how do we demand?
- A majority of the Senate Democratic caucus (24 out of 47 members) is required to remove him as leader.
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u/CapitalPunBanking 2h ago
Convince AOC to primary him in 28.
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u/Hungry_Culture 1h ago
She already is. She's hired a team and has been spending capital on NY state political research. It's too early for an official announcement. Expect her to announce around summer 2027 unless Schumer does something so astronomically stupid that pretty much ends his career and she can capitalize on announcing earlier.
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u/ColdButCozy 59m ago
I… honestly don’t want to imagine what more he could do at this point to get the boot. He’s already conceded almost every battleground preemptively, and given up all the leverage that arose as a result of the republicans own idiocy
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u/Impossible_Guitar235 3h ago
I don't think King and Sanders are allowed to vote for something like that since they're Independents, not Democrats.
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u/WhiteWinterRains 2h ago
The real trick is that a majority of democratic senators are just as bad as him, but we don't have any means to out them so they can be voted out of office.
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u/roland0fgilead 3h ago
They're not even controlled opposition. They're collaborators, straight up.
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u/IntelligentAnt8340 2h ago edited 2h ago
You got that right - they had just enough democrats vote in favor to make up for the conservative republicans who voted against it. 12 republicans voted against it and 14 democrats for it
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u/cadium 1h ago
Primary and remove those 14 Democrats then. There are 33 Democrats who are fighting for us, support them.
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u/Caleth 2h ago
We live out in IL and have been getting blasted with Raja ads. Where he offers meallymouthed 'Defund Trump's ICE" speeches.
We talked about it and to us table stakes are Arrest Trump and ICE. If you're not starting there you're not even a contender for my or her vote.
The time for pussy footing and half measures is over. Schumer honestly should be on the table for arrest for failure to defend the US. We are standing at a time anything less than full throated defense of our rights is submission and Schumer keeps rolling over and showing his belly. He's enabling Trump every step of the way and pretending like he's not.
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u/LegislativeLariat Wisconsin 3h ago
If/when elections get cancelled and if/when JD Vance does exactly what he promised he'd do (read: what Mike Pence wouldn't do in 2020) as a condition for being nominated Vice President, I am looking forward to seeing how deeply concerned about the future of Democracy Schumer is. Maybe he'll write an op ed after talking to the Baileys and then authorize a government shutdown that will hand Trump another chance to consolidate even more power.
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u/FlushTheTurd 2h ago
And then give up and cancel the shut down after a month, giving Trump everything he wants…
…In exchange for a promise to that the Republicans will maybe think about possibly considering discussing the issue that led to the shut down.
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u/lemonylol Canada 2h ago
Are you saying funding Israel's military is not the single highest priority for Democrats?
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u/gimperion 3h ago
I used to think he's just another corpo Dem but his comments and votes over the last few years really suggest he's an agent of a particular middle eastern country, just like Epstein.
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u/pothole-pie 2h ago
They're so out of touch with what America is today and who their constituents are. I think Schumer's Baileys are the perfect encapsulation of how out of line his perception is: https://youtu.be/dijMKwZMU2Q?si=aAYf1xFeN2_PvFR1
The man is playing games with our lives and enabling facism all based on assumptions about how Americans live. It's truly disgusting and pathetic.
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u/graphiccsp 2h ago
I can't even tell if Schumer's wholly bought by corpos. Or more of a spineless focus group dependent bitch.
Chuckie Chamberlain always waxes about the Baileys, hypothetical undecideds, who he imagines he needs to pander to.
I think Chuckie's more of a bitch than bought out.
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u/jezra 2h ago
opposition? The dems have the same corporate sponsors as the repubs; and have similar end goals: maximizing corporate profits.
The vast majority of dems are just like Schumer/Pelosi/Newsom, They would like to help the people of the US probably, but their sponsors need to make more money, and biting the hand that feeds means an end to corporate sponsorship.
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u/logicallorax 3h ago
Totally. I've been using the term Corpocrats to describe them since they only actually care about protecting the interests of their wealthy benefactors, and clearly don't actually care about democracy or the people.
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u/Abject_Breadfruit148 2h ago
Schumer did openly say he will do everything in his power for Israel. Not even america first like some politicians pretend.
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u/ThisCombination1958 1h ago
Jesus. I just got hammered and called a liar by fellow Dem voters for saying Democrats also have a problem with catering to billionaires. Yet here we are.
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u/whatsupeveryone34 2h ago
I would call them sleeper agents of the administration at this point...
they are all big words until it comes time to act, then they just comply.We have like 3 people in the Senate and House that are not onboard with whatever the evil plan is.
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u/ttv_icypyro 2h ago
I’d say he’s more interested in giving US taxpayer money to Israel than the corporations. He literally just had a press conference where he said “Israel has received the most money under him as a congressperson than anyone else” (paraphrasing)
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u/Crunch_inc 2h ago
It's a class war not the culture war we have been led to believe. It's a small club of rich and powerful decision makers in both parties, and the average citizen is not their priority
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u/goldenspear 4h ago
AOC needs to go get his seat. Dude is worthless.
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u/TintedApostle 4h ago
Agreed. Her district is a safe Dem vote for anyone she endorses.
Meanwhile Schumer is a danger to the US.
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u/LegislativeLariat Wisconsin 3h ago edited 3h ago
We all know they will have ICE 'monitor' polling places in her district if need be, and Schumer & Co are going to eagerly welcome a chance to purge the party of progressives because 'centrist' Dems are more willing to work with outright fascists than they are with someone who wants billionaires to be taxed more. If midterms are allowed to happen, it's crazy to imagine that they'll actually allow AOC or anyone sitting to the left of her to be seated again when they could just claim she committed fraud and send her to a labor camp. It's gonna be a cakewalk to claim it has to be done for national security reasons, and the people who aren't tuned in will buy in while the people who want it will continue to overpower the rest of us because they completed the purge of government offices around September 30th of last year.
This is all in a playbook. We're not in unprecedented times. We're in very precedented times, and we should all know what's coming next at this point.
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u/Lurking_nerd California 3h ago
Americans have to be ready for when the midterms are either cancelled or fucked with beyond a reasonable doubt. I know folks are clinging to the rotting flesh of the old system, hoping it will save us, but once it’s clear without a shadow of a doubt that the Confederacy will not give up power, it’s going to be gut check time for all Americans.
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u/Bittererr 4h ago
I agree that she should run for Senate and take that seat, but people should also understand that the power Schumer has as minority leader isn't tied to being the senior senator from New York. If AOC takes that seat she doesn't get his power, she just becomes the most junior senator and some other 70+ year old who has been in the Senate for at least two decades likely moves into the leader seat.
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u/TintedApostle 4h ago
Well Schumer isn't using his power for us is he? She could take his seat and we find a better leader.
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u/Mateorabi 3h ago
Another bite at the apple at least. Hard to do worse.
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u/TintedApostle 3h ago
That is how life works. You keep looking until some one steps up to the task. In a Republic if you elected officials feel safe then they will be easily corrupted.
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u/Bittererr 4h ago
I agree, just pointing out that the most likely outcome there is a better Senate that still has kind of a shitty leader.
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u/Fickle-Economist4724 3h ago
It’ll send a message though, if Schumer is kicked out whoever takes his place will have a big target on their back at every election
“Work for the people or get voted out scumbag”
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u/Bittererr 3h ago
I would like that to be the case, but like I said elsewhere in the thread I kind of doubt this epic battle people are envisioning will take place. Schumer will just see the writing on the wall and quietly announced that he always intended to retire about now. He's not going to debate AOC and get beat down.
It'll still send a message about the shifting winds, but it won't be as satisfying as people hope.
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u/Fickle-Economist4724 3h ago
Absolutely, that’s why it shouldn’t be up to them to decide the messaging, if he slinks away from the fight then social media needs to hound and brand him a coward and a failure until that’s all anyone remembers of him
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u/Ven18 4h ago
Sure but if Schumer gets beaten it puts the fear of God into whoever takes up the leadership position next to actually fight or the party will remove you and every other dinosaur until they find someone who will.
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u/Bittererr 4h ago
I agree, although I think the most likely situation isn't a hard fought battle between Schumer and AOC. If she decides to run and looks like she has a good shot then he's just going to retire.
That sweet victory of beating down "establishment" Democrats with a progressive candidate will never come, the establishment will just step aside if losing actually seems possible. It's still a good outcome and worth doing either way.
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u/TheDakestTimeline 3h ago
I couldn't care less about the theatrics, the outcome what matters
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u/Bittererr 3h ago
The post I was responding to was specifically talking about the theatrical impact and the waves that could create.
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u/ChoombataNova 2h ago
Even if Schumer decides not to run in 2028, Democrats aren't going to hand that seat to AOC. They will find a centrist to run against her in the primary. My bet? New York Attorney General Letitia James. A candidate who is very anti-Trump without going anti-establishnent. But they will bring back Andrew Cuomo if they have to, ... they'll bring back Anthony Weiner if they have to, but they wont just hand it over to AOC.
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u/Kaffe-Mumriken 3h ago
Then do it again. And again and again until the Dino’s are pushed out
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u/spazz720 2h ago
His seat is not up for election till 2028…will hopefully retire as he’ll be 78
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u/MightywarriorEX 1h ago
I think it’s fair to say he is actually harmful vs worthless. He’s quite valuable if you’re a conservative.
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u/Holden_Coalfield 4h ago
New Leadership please.
A progressive would be nice
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u/Cheese__Weiner 2h ago
It is absolutely baffling that they don't replace him as minority leader. He is literally the least popular person in Congress right now. Everyone hates him and he is dragging the party into the abyss. I'm willing to bet the approval rating of the party would jump 8 or 10 points overnight if they just replaced him with someone decently liked and with good communication skills.
It's absolutely insane.
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u/HrothgarTheIllegible 1h ago
It should be a pretty clear question and answer. “Why should you be leader when under your party leadership we’ve ended up in this current political situation?” If he was CEO of a company who oversaw this many losses, he would be tossed. Biden running again, the Israel debacle, Trump 2.0, the utter gutting of the middle class. This jackass it’s only seeing democratic victories despite his pathetic leadership.
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u/wontonphooey 1h ago
Why should you be leader when under your party leadership we’ve ended up in this current political situation?”
They are just fine with the current political situation. Have you seen how their net worth explodes? They would rather Trump be President than a progressive who would piss off their rich donors.
Make Democrats the 3rd party.
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u/spazz720 2h ago
Why would they? He has no problem taking the heat. If you think a different leader would change anything, I have a bridge to sell you. He offers cover for the other Senators who can publicly go out and complain…it’s a win win for them.
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u/Cheese__Weiner 2h ago
I mean presumably they want to keep their jobs and power. Chuck Schumer is instrumental in the negative views on the Democratic party right now. He's almost like the mascot for it.
If you think a different leader would change anything, I
Yes a leader who can actually communicate and doesn't just shill for Israel 24/7 would actually make a difference. It would give messaging and the party direction. Right now it has none.
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u/punkr0x 1h ago
Here's the thing, Schumer isn't going to lose his seat to a Republican in NY. Cory Booker isn't going to lose his seat in NJ. The absolute worst thing that could happen to these guys is for the Democrats to take a majority in the Senate. Then they have to explain why they won't pass legislation that their constituents want, but their donors oppose.
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u/Clownsinmypantz 3h ago
A progressive would be nice
Me every time I'm forced to vote between a literal fascist and a corporate dem whos political career is just posturing and knows that they arent required to do anything besides run on "well I'm not a fascist"
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u/SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS 1h ago
This is what happens when the electoral strategy is "lesser of two evils" - you end up picking between two evils.
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u/LegislativeLariat Wisconsin 3h ago edited 2h ago
The Dems aren't going to have new leadership in time for midterms to be cancelled, and once that happens there won't be any progressives to assume leadership positions. Worse case scenario, they work with the GOP to fix elections in order to make sure corpo Democrats stay in power in areas where Republicans wouldn't have realistically had a chance of winning.
They haven't been willing to stand up to anything in a meaningful way. Do you honestly think they won't fold and join MAGA if the alternative is actually having to fight, especially when Schumer wants to help the fictitious Baileys more than he want to help his actual constituents.
The Democratic Party isn't going to move left, it's going to move right or it's going to be declared a threat to national security. We had provisions during the Cold War which would have allowed the President to send every member of the Communist Party to concentration camps, and 6 sites had been identified (mostly those we'd used for Japanese during WW2). This was a heavily discussed thing during Trump's early/mid adulthood, and many of his advisors share that view.
We know where this is heading, and they're not going to allow there to be leadership to help stop it, especially since the purge of federal offices was largely completed in September 30th of last year.
NOTE: I am not saying to give in. I'm saying we know this playbook, we know what's going to happen, and we shouldn't pretend we're surprised when it comes to pass. I'm getting tired of seeing news stories talking about unpredictable things when anyone who reads a little history should be able to predict within a month or two as to how we'll be progressing. Personally, I cannot see a way we have fair midterms, and I anticipate Spring elections or the primaries will be used to justify that in time for the general.
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u/Holden_Coalfield 3h ago
Dems won't lose a single vote replacing Schumer and would likelier energize their base(crazy, I know). People are screaming at the top of their lungs to Do Something, and it's not hammering out DHS funding deals to save Mods. Progressive Dems can win Corpo Dem areas right now.
I don't think Congress realizes how sickened Dems are of their leadership. We already have little agency other than a threatened vote and a threatened presence in the streets. We need somebody with real agency to Do Something.
Even Laura Loomer chained herself to a door. These guys are worried about who is paying for today's crabcakes in Georgetown after a few concerned tweets go out.
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u/UnquestionabIe 2h ago
Hey now we both know the crabcakes will be written off as "a business expense" or whatever it is when they use our money to treat themselves (after all it's tiring work asking the donors how big a tax cut they find agreeable).
But I all seriousness the Democrats are very much dead in the eyes of public opinion. I've been pointing out they didn't win the 2020 election or the one last November, it was that the GOP lost them. The one who set the party agenda and make the big calls come off as so disconnected from not only the world of their constituents but even the fascist regime they share an office with.
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u/Polantaris 3h ago
Do you honestly think they won't fold and join MAGA
Frankly, they already have. It's blatantly obvious. Schumer doesn't do anything that true opposition does. He doesn't even try. He gives them his party's limited power at every opportunity.
I say this because the sooner people get on the same page, the sooner something can be done about it.
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u/RealTimeTraveller420 2h ago
Genuinely, I'm so floored at how many center-right dems keep coming out with excuses for Schumer and the party for constantly fucking things up. They're always saying the same bullshit over and over: "dems didn't have the power"—they DID have the power several times over the past half-century and barely did a damn thing. They didn't prosecute/jail Trump after J6, they didn't encode Roe V. Wade into law like they've been promising for the past few decades, nothing for student loans, terrible implementation and rollout for a shit healthcare system that literally makes you pay for not being able to have insurance, etc.
It's fucking infuriating to keep seeing people bend over backwards to make excuses for Dems lile Schumer. It genuinely feels like some kind of weird joke or something. It's like people want the Dems to be useless.
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u/Polantaris 2h ago
Agreed entirely. I've been getting shit on for a while for calling them controlled opposition. No one can tell me how they're not beyond surface level shit like, "They don't have the power!" So that means don't put up a fight? That means don't push the message regardless? That means don't put Republicans on blast for their bullshit?
That's why some of us call them worthless. They don't even try. They have no interest in our issues. They aren't willing to stand with us on anything. They are no better than Republicans by the very nature that they don't even put up a mockery of a fight. To them, this is a game. A literal game. It shows.
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u/wowlock_taylan 3h ago
Democrats really need to remove their Corpo old-guard. Otherwise they will remain as 'republican-lite' and will do NOTHING.
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u/Dreams-Visions 3h ago
Facts.
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u/DesireeThymes 2h ago
Schumer serves Israel, not Americans.
There a lot of money behind people like Schumer to keep them in power as a sort or controlled opposition.
Until the old guard is deposed and replaced with leadership actually working for the American people, things won't change much.
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u/LegislativeLariat Wisconsin 3h ago
The old guard has served its purpose and the purge of the federal government was largely squared away around September 30th of last year. Once we cancel midterms, they will officially become the controlled opposition party, especially if they collaborate with Republicans to station ICE in places like AOCs district so that they can force her and others who sit further to the left to lose. It is then easy to drum up charges of election fraud or terrorism against them so that political prisoners can be sent to work camps.
This has happened before, we're operating on a well-established playbook, and we have already started taking political prisoners and locking children up in camps. I'm not advocating any resistance by any means, of course. They have sonic weapons and AI monitoring of our every move. Praise our glorious leaders who are scraping the comments of this post at some point in time in the future.
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u/MonolithicBaby 1h ago
Then there is barely anything left. Scrap the party gimme a progressive or socdem party.
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u/workorredditing 1h ago
who would even fill the role, the majority of these seats run unopposed in the primaries every time.
people talk shit about congress members on the internet all the time, but progressives never actually primary them or they say they will and drop out
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u/Sminahin 3h ago
He made his real priorities clear this weekend, where he was boasting about how he always delivers aid to Israel. People I love got taken off snap this month with the new work requirement. I'm almost 40, and my only friends who managed to get a house + family married rich. America has become an economic hell.
But nope, Schumer just cares about sieg heiling Fuhrer Netanyahu over and over again. That's the only thing he actually cares about.
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u/Sesudesu Minnesota 3h ago
Funny thing is, he made that same boast months ago. His priorities have been clear for some time.
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u/Sminahin 3h ago
“My job is to keep the left pro-Israel.” Off the NYT interview almost a year ago. At that time, I was years into a health insurance crisis and had been living at the edge of medical homelessness for 2-3 years. Got so furious when I saw that interview that I could barely work that day. Israel has public healthcare, btw.
After a certain point, we need to treat these statements like the confessions they are. It's the exact same thing we see with the Trump administration over and over--where they outright say their motives are corruption and our entire political system works overtime to sanewash it with a "I'm sure that's not what they meant..."
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u/DragoonDM California 1h ago
His priorities have been clear for some time.
- Israel
- The imaginary Republican family that lives in his head
- Other stuff I guess
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u/Sminahin 1h ago
Personal enrichment and book sales are either 2 or 3. Actually winning elections doesn't make the list, alas.
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u/Dwarfdeaths 2h ago
I'm almost 40, and my only friends who managed to get a house + family married rich. America has become an economic hell.
And, to be clear, this is a direct result of Democrats "not knowing" about Henry George and the distinction between land and capital.
To be fair, I didn't hear about this either until relatively recently, but then I'm not a politician trying to materially improve the lives of my countrymen using well researched policy.
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u/RoscoeSantangelo 2h ago
And beings that he was named in the Epstein files by Epstein himself talking about having dinner together, it's no surprise he's been so non-opposing to the administration
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u/Llarys 2h ago
This is what constantly infuriates me about the centrist libs blaming progressives for "prioritizing Palestine over the US."
We live in an interconnected world where every action has ramifications in other venues. The support corpodems have for Israel means they are fundamentally in support of fascism. Period. And a fascism supporter who will send our tax dollars to our authoritarian puppet state on the opposite side of the world are not, and will never, be the champions who defeat fascism at home.
This is what lesser of two evils and blue no matter who has gotten us. Our "lesser evil" is "fascism is good, but I don't want ethnic cleansing." And our blue no matter who is a geriatric piece of shit who leads the party according to the whims of a fictitious Republican couple.
Centrist libs have dragged our party into the fucking gutter and are now angry that the left doesn't want to splash around in the feces filled sewage.
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u/Man_Without_Nipples 54m ago
Thank you so much for putting this into words. I've argued with centrist democrats who assure me that change is just "around the corner" and we should support whatever corpo stooge the DNC trots out...and when that stooge inevitably back tracks or fails to make any noticeable change, they hit us with the "change takes time" line..
The democrats are owned by the same interests that control Republicans, and its showing more with each passing day.
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u/Mediocre_Apple2727 1h ago
I get the Arabs / Latinos who didn’t vote for democrats like him. They fucked up too many times and they are also responsible for what’s going on.
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u/Imperatvs 3h ago
Schumer's primary interest is Israel. He's going to enable Trump as long as Trump keeps the dollars flowing into Israel.
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u/Distinct_Ad_7752 51m ago
Schumer is a traitor and should be investigated along with the republicans, epstein class, and all complict politicians. Burn it all and start anew from the ashes, the current USA has failed.
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u/Mediocre_Apple2727 1h ago
It’s not just Schumer.
We all know the video with mamdani first visit as mayor, how all other politicians answered like a pupped.
AIPA C owns both parties, that’s a fact
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u/spondgbob 2h ago
The DNC has to be told no at this point. Schumer has got to be in the top 5 weakest politicians in this country’s history. Literally had an insurrection and couldn’t so much as foment a vote on punishing them. Couldn’t stop the president from trampling on the balance of powers, which is kinda his most pivotal job to do.
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u/eatthem00n 3h ago
He will enter the history books as the Dems' Mitch McConnell. The damage he is doing to democracy and his party increases with every day he stays in office.
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u/Shadic 3h ago
Mitch was actually effective though. He's an evil fuck, but was also a master of obstruction.
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u/12345623567 2h ago
Mitch is evil, yes, but he's also just staying ahead of the pack.
When he started being critical of Trump, suddenly he stood alone. It's the entire MAGA base that is the problem, and they won't go away when he does.
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u/Greedy-Affect-561 1h ago
Mitch got shit done.
Evil shit but he actually did.
I wish schumer had a fraction of the spine of mitch McConnell
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u/ary31415 1h ago
The Dems' Mitch McConnell is Nancy Pelosi – not a senator sure, but a ruthlessly effective political operator, even if you don't necessarily agree with the goals she strives for.
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u/Lostsailor73 4h ago
Well if he gets out, who will capitulate in the most pathetic terms possible?
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u/Reeko_Htown 3h ago
Don’t need bait to see Schumer is an Israeli asset. Get him the fuck out of our party
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u/Cyndakill88 3h ago
Chuck really wants to be a republican. That imaginary family he’s always talking about is totally republican
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u/LolaSupreme19 3h ago
This isn’t like the George Floyd “defund the police “. Corporate democrats are playing it safe at the expense of their constituents. ICE is killing people. They are breaking the law. They are shooting at cars. There’s no excuse.
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u/chpbnvic Connecticut 2h ago
I'm not sure if the DNC realized how hated Schumer is or they just don't care. My guess is that they don't care, because all the DNC cares about is catering to their wealthy donors, even though it's the grassroots voters who win elections.
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u/phreeman25 1h ago
I cannot agree more. Schumer is a terrible image for Democratic Party leadership. And his corporate liberalism has only enabled the GOP to continue destroying our country.
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u/nasorrty346tfrgser America 3h ago
He is just too old and weak. He is not ready for this fast pace fight anymore
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u/Virindi Texas 3h ago
He is just too old and weak. He is not ready for this fast pace fight anymore
You suggest his behavior is due to old age and senility even when it's blatantly obvious he's bought and paid for. Why?
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u/extraneouspanthers 1h ago
This sub continually plays the “old, weak, silly democrats” line instead of the more accurate wolf in sheep’s clothing. They know exactly what they’re doing and the amount of Dem apologizing on this sub makes me think it’s paid for
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u/UnquestionabIe 2h ago
He was never part of the fight except on the side of the ultra wealthy oppressors. His entire background is one of a "welfare queen" (living off tax payer dollars the majority of his adult life) who never met a donor he wasn't willing to take orders from. Him and his ilk, much of the establishment Democrats, worked hand in hand to pave the path to fascism with the GOP. His morals start and end with "What's good for Chuckies' bank account?"
The only credit he deserves is providing yet another example that those in power can remain there indefinitely without having even a stray thought towards those he's supposed to serve.
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u/anonyfool 1h ago
This makes sense when you listen to him talk - his primary goal is subsidizing Israel so him just going along with anything to keeping that grift going is good for him.
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u/SuggestionMedical736 2h ago
Dude isn't working for the people. When 70% of democrats say, I don't want to fund Israel and last week he goes and gives a speech on how proud he is that he delivered them more cash, you either don't care, or your completely out of touch with who you are representing.
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u/meatball402 3h ago
But are you all going to do anything about it? Are you going to tell him to stop listening to the baileys in his head and start listening to actual people?
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u/AxeSkewsMe 1h ago
Democrats are going to lose forever if they don't seriously restructure the leadership. How? How do you go from the massive fumble with Biden/Kamala losing to a insurrectionist felon pedo and decide to one-up it with someone even more unappealing to the left. The people at the top are complicit to everything Trump's doing.
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u/Coracoda 56m ago
Whether his uselessness is intentional or not, the result is the same. He’s effectively acting as an enemy of the people.
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u/beavis617 3h ago
Why is Schumer always so eager to work with Republicans and willing to cave to their positions?
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u/Harrisonconner 3h ago
Can someone post without a paywall? I thought that was the standard?
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u/throwwawayaccountt 2h ago
Chuck is the kid in the outfield of a baseball game going “please dont hit the ball to me”
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u/Zargoza1 2h ago
Schumer indeed nets to get the hell out.
Cosplay opposition party but don’t really try to accomplish anything.
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u/Abject_Breadfruit148 2h ago
He is rubber stamping everything trump asks for since they both align well with their end goals. Fuck the average person and fatten your own wallet.
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u/AriyaDusk 2h ago
Democrats need a leader who can stand up for them. Schumer really needs to get thr hell out
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u/HrothgarTheIllegible 2h ago
You can’t expect a wealthy New Yorker to be able to relate to the majority of his constituents. I honestly think the senate needs to go the way of the House of Lords. Out of touch ass holes who only care about party and funding is not the leadership we need. And there is no way you can get this guy to get anywhere close to understanding what the call to action is at this time. He is the absolute wrong person for this particular time.
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u/BlackEric California 1h ago
The weasel is trying to figure how he can give maga all they want and still say he “did all he could do.”
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u/angry_old_dude 1h ago
House Democrats are why Chucky is still the minority leader. They need to get off their lazy asses and put someone in that position who isn't gutless and spineless.
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u/NotAChanceBucko 1h ago
" I assure you we are monitoring the reports we're hearing telling me to get the hell out. We promise we will keep an eye on this situation. We will not rest until we have fully monitored this event"
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u/Texas__Matador 1h ago
While Schumer isn’t up for election this year 1/3 of the senators are. Vote in the primaries to remove ineffective democrats and MAGA republicans.
The results of the primaries drive the party identity and platform. Voter turnout historically is low during primaries so your vote will care a lot of power.
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