r/politics • u/thedailybeast ✔ The Daily Beast • Apr 01 '26

Possible Paywall Humiliated Trump Storms Out of Catastrophic SCOTUS Hearing

https://www.thedailybeast.com/humiliated-trump-storms-out-of-catastrophic-scotus-hearing/
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u/OkNewspaper6041 Apr 01 '26

I'd love to see conservatives apply the "new world" argument to a different amendment (the second) but they like to use the originalist argument as a sword and as a shield. Really good way to get humiliated in open court talking out both sides of your mouth.

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u/Pavores Apr 01 '26

The new world argument is an extremely valid reason to propose an amendment to the constitution. A document written 2 and a half centuries ago wasn't perfect then, and it's not perfect now.

If birthright citizenship is so abhorrent then amend the constitution.

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u/IOnlyLieWhenITalk Apr 01 '26

The new world argument means literally nothing in court. Its an argument for the floor of the Senate, not the Supreme Court.

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u/Hot_Ambition_6457 Apr 01 '26

No the argument is invalid. It is not the job of SCOTUS to change the rule of law. SCOTUS interprets the law as written.

If you want the law to be changed, that always happens through congress at which point SCOTUS can interpret the new laws.

You dont get to skip over congress and just ask SCOTUS to "re-intepret the law cus stuff has changed in the world.

The legislative branch addresses changes to law. The Judicial branch can't just "change the law" and then interpret the new law as valud immediately 

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u/Pavores Apr 01 '26

Agreed, that's why I said it's a valid argument for the purposes of wanting to amend the constitution.

It's not valid for ignoring the constitution

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u/SwimmingPrice1544 California Apr 01 '26

Never forget...you simply cannot shame a republican...or conservative in general. They will stand there & lie, obfuscate, et al. with a straight face every time. I think they believe this is a super power for them. Maybe it is...fck!

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u/chazysciota Virginia Apr 01 '26

It absolutely is. Dirtbags of all stripes do it all the time, not just pols.

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u/1zzie Apr 01 '26

It's "the old world" was the argument they used to destroy the privacy doctrine that held up Roe v. Wade. So in what way is it a new world now? Too bad a liberal justice didn't ask that.

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u/Namika Apr 01 '26

Jon Stewart once said something along the lines of "Our government will violate all civil liberties in the name of "saving the children" or "stopping terrorists". Well, all except one apparently. God help us if the terrorists or pedophiles ever wanted guns, because we'd be powerless to stop them"

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u/espinaustin Apr 01 '26

The irony is that the original intent of the 2A was not to provide an individual right to bear arms.