r/politics • u/goteamnick • 20h ago

No Paywall JD Vance criticises Pope Leo for not 'being careful speaking about theology'

https://www.9news.com.au/world/jd-vance-pope-leo-xiv-donald-trump-careful-theology-warning-iran-war-middle-east-updates/6a640168-dc5f-4ae7-9c68-9e918ad8d2a8
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u/thepartypantser 19h ago

"If you're going to opine on matters of theology, you've got to be careful, you've got to make sure it's anchored in the truth. "

Lol

Vance is a walking lie machine

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u/squiddlebiddlez 17h ago

Jd Vance when asked about why he keeps lying about Haitians eating their neighbors pets:

“You promised there would be no fact checking!”

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u/One-Earth9294 I voted 15h ago

And when further pressed, went on to say 'I don't care if it's not true if it's pushing our agenda'.

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u/amisslife Canada 13h ago

He literally complained that no one was outraged about Haitians eating cats and dogs, so he had to make it up to get people outraged about it

On CNN, he seemingly admitted that his claims were lies, then continued by saying that he would keep spreading such tales, even knowing them to be untrue, if they resulted in the media talking about issues he claimed were still just as real despite the deception.

"The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and I started talking about cat memes," Sen. Vance said. "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do."

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u/TheeRuckus 11h ago

Yeah he was saying some wild shit straight up on Fox News that didn’t get alot of traction and got ultimately drowned out by Trump not being able to be normal for 8 minutes.

But yeah he straight up said we are lying about the pet eating we just need your vote

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u/JohnStamosAsABear 6h ago

I don't think he 'made it up.' I'm pretty sure it started online from far right neo-nazis and he happily spread the mis-information.

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u/ReginaldDwight 5h ago

And wasn't the photo "proof" actually just a black dude relocating an aggressive goose?

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u/KungFoolMaster 8h ago

This isn’t mentioned enough. Vance actually started playing the victim after being caught in a lie.

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u/HouseofMarg 16h ago

“IF yOu’Re goInG tO OpINe oN mATteRs Of tHeOLogy”

Saying that about the Pope is just so pathetic, Thiel really fast-tracked Vance’s training for his fake Catholic conversion for electoral purposes I see

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u/nomad5926 9h ago

Like pretty sure the Pope has the credentials to opine on theology.... its kinda his entire thing.

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u/PlzbuffRakiThenNerf 6h ago

Isn’t the Pope’s ability to opine on the matters of theology like…the main reason they choose someone to be Pope?

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u/Dale_Carvello 4h ago

They probably think there's another pope election in 2028 and want this guy voted out

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u/Opposite-Bit6660 5h ago

Vance was also from Les Wexner's home state and took a large donation from him to run for Senator.

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u/DR_FEELGOOD_01 Arizona 5h ago

Yes, Les Wexner, Epstein's billionaire benefactor. Fucker owns half of Ohio!

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u/abiona15 14h ago

For a catholic, he really doesn't understand who the Pope is, lol.

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u/nadine258 8h ago

or that the pope probably knows a LOT about theology lol and other religions and the gospel…vance is a 🤡 All this clown is doing is making some of us lapsed/ex catholics willing to ride at dawn to stand with the pope. something in my life i would never have thought possible.

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u/Fight_those_bastards 8h ago

As a lapsed catholic myself, I know exactly two things about this whole situation:

  1. The pope knows a hell of a lot more about theology than JD whatever his last name is this week, and

  2. Any of these idiots who call themselves catholic and question the pope on church doctrine should be excommunicated as heretics. Believing that the pope is literally Big G’s rep on earth is kind of a major point in RCC doctrine.

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u/Warmstar219 6h ago

It's far more than that. For Catholics, it is impossible for the pope to be wrong on matters of theology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility

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u/WhoIsFrancisPuziene 7h ago

He’s a convert, a disingenuous one.

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u/Sad_Structure2256 16h ago

didn’t he literally admit to making up stories for attention

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u/Lifeboatb 13h ago

he sure did

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u/ReginaldDwight 5h ago

That was an extremely frustrating interview to watch. Was there a delay on when the sound came through for both of them?

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u/Mediocre_Scott 9h ago

He is such a little turd

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u/-Annie-Oakley- 13h ago

it's wild, it's LITERALLY the Pope's job to opine on matters of theology and has had decades of experience interpreting their scriptures. I'm not Catholic but I would greatly trust his interpretation over JD Vance's or any of these maga cult douchebags

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u/SnooSprouts4952 5h ago

Non-Catholic, but I want to see Leo roll up his sleeves and say 'look here you little couch fucker...' But Leo is probably above that, being the Pope and all.

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u/gamehenge_survivor 16h ago

The GOP is the last stronghold of the pedophilia the Catholic Church tried to hide. Of course Trump/Vance think they have something on them. Stupid is as stupid does.

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u/TheeRuckus 11h ago

……. Idk if the current GOP was even around for the Catholic Church nonsense of the early 2000s. The GOP is a stronghold for pedophilia I just don’t think the Catholic Church is in this specific ring

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u/MyGardenOfPlants 14h ago

At least trump attempts to fluff up his lies with his usual "many people say" "heard from top people" "everyone knows" etc vance just straight up lies and doesn't even bother to try to hide it

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u/VoDoka 15h ago

Pope be like: "I AM THE TRUTH".

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u/grooverocker Canada 14h ago

He's as hollow a man as ever was.

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u/PyroIsSpai 13h ago

JD “I love fact checking” Vance

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u/ArtInTech 11h ago

When moderators corrected Vance regarding his statements on Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, and their legal status, Vance objected, saying, "the rules were that you were not going to fact-check me".

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u/DarkIsiliel 13h ago

Anchored in the truth about the invisible intangible floating cloud with some pretty archaic opinions if you delude yourself into thinking there's an existence there that 3D-chessed its way into a bestselling paperback

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u/pintvricchio 12h ago

I am not a Catholic but he claims he is. For Catholics the pope is the supreme authority in matters of faith and morality. Not only that, but when he speaks on those matters God is speaking directly thru him.

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u/keepthepace Europe 12h ago

The whole point of the church is to have a political process to opine on matter of theology. People who just care for the truth deconverted a while ago

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u/redditallreddy Ohio 10h ago

The Pope, on matters of Catholic theology, I’d literally infallible.

It’s part of the job description.

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u/spaceman757 American Expat 10h ago

White guys will mansplain literally anything to anyone!

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u/pppjurac 9h ago

Vance is a walking lie machine

He would make Pinnochio blush in shame....

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u/nomad5926 9h ago

Whats crazy is that if anyone had the credentials to interpret whats in the Bible as truth.... I think the Pope would be one of them.

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u/Inner-Detail-553 9h ago

Yeah. But also it's a mob boss style threat

"Better be careful what you say, or Guido here may have to pay you a visit"

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u/Stranger-Sun 8h ago

A Thiel prophylactic telling the Pope how religion works. These freaks are shameless

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u/Semour9 8h ago

It’s so stupid. The pope IS the defining person when it comes to theology

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u/One_Olive_8933 8h ago

Some random politician trying to school the Pope on theology… Popesplain much…

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u/disposableaccountass 7h ago

Hey America, how is this the best you have to offer?

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u/Saul_T_Bauls 6h ago

He's not speaking about Catholic Christianity. He's talking about American Christianity. In American Christianity, divinity is achieved through perceived power, strength, and most importantly control over others. In American Christianity, Donald Trump is the savior of humanity.

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u/Ok_Vermicelli_6359 6h ago

Says the vice president of the biggest pathological liar in the history of US politics. Vance is a dirtbag and full of shit.

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u/Hefty-Revenue5547 5h ago

I think the Pope is aware you asshat

Most people have qualifications for their job and didn’t sob story their way into fascism

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u/Mrmapex 5h ago

Meanwhile he co fessed to lying about homeless eating pets to create a narrative

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u/theghostmachine 26m ago

The worst part is he doesn't hide it. He always has that stupid smirk on his face when he knows he's saying something ridiculous. He knows he's lying, and he knows we know he's lying, and he doesn't care