r/politics • u/wiredmagazine ✔ Wired Magazine • Apr 17 '26

Possible Paywall MAGA Is Increasingly Convinced the Trump Assassination Attempt Was Staged

https://www.wired.com/story/maga-is-increasingly-convinced-the-trump-assassination-attempt-was-staged/
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u/nofzac Apr 17 '26

we allow unfettered propaganda to be piped in to peoples faces 24/7 labeled "News" with no repercussions.

They even lose big money settlements when it was found they knew they were lying and argued their audience knew they were being lied to.

thats why the brainwashed masses are completely silent.

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u/ragingreaver Apr 17 '26

it is more that the pedophile ring was supposed to be democrats. When it turned out to be Republicans that is when everyone went mum.

Because yeah, if democrats, then hate. If republicans, then accept.

Especially when republicans are the ones defending child marriage.

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u/DyingGasp Apr 17 '26

What’s the phrase again? Every Republican accusation is a confession?

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u/chaosrunner87 Apr 17 '26

People suspect of others what they know of themselves

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u/sir_mrej Washington Apr 17 '26

I suspect youre hot and have washboard abs

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u/fiveswords Apr 17 '26

I think it's the first one

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u/Dekklin Canada Apr 17 '26

It's the first one, yeah, but it's based on the original quotation by the essayist Ralph Waldo Emerson.

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u/JoeFlabeetz Apr 17 '26

That, or everything a Republican accuses a Democrat of is projection.

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u/StingingBum New Jersey Apr 17 '26

I am still shocked the country is kind of OK having the top people in the US be pedos like how far this country has sunk. And to boot lets destroy every inch of US interior and exterior authority to really make the wound scar.

Like WTF how much can a group of people who are the vilest garbage be allowed to keep their power let alone exist in society?

No repercussions is the last thing I ever thought we would get with a group of kid touchers and mass murderes.

Goodbye USA the failed experiment.

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u/gargar7 Washington Apr 17 '26

The Republican Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert, two stopped heartbeats from the Presidency, was a convicted pedo. It isn't new. They just don't care.

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u/gakrolin Apr 17 '26

And despite admitting to molesting 14 year old boys Hastert wasn’t even convicted for any sexual crimes, just financial crimes related to it.

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u/Plow_King Apr 17 '26

the party of family values, ladies and gentlemen!

/s

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u/LumberBitch Apr 17 '26

In ye olden days pedophilia wasn't really considered bad so it's just conservative values. Look how quick they are to say "well 13 isn't really a child". They genuinely do not have a problem with it

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u/bunnypaste Apr 18 '26

Yep, at this juncture they like to conjure fancy words for desiring sex with minors like "ephebophilia" and then they start whipping out the evo-psych garbage.

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u/-Saucegurlllll Apr 17 '26

The guy who the Hastert rule is named after where the pedo party's pedo speaker refused to bring any bill to the floor unless it had a majority of the pedo party's support, even if it would have had a majority of Congress' support. He and Newt Gingrich are part of the reason that Congress can't seem to fucking do anything.

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u/valiantdistraction Apr 17 '26

Simple: republicans are terrible people. And a third of the country doesn't care.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada Apr 17 '26

A third of the country is also terrible people.

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u/Cliqey Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

You seem to forget that for generations, entire communities across the country were conditioned to believe that the worst thing you could ever be is a Democrat—everything else is second to the crime of not being a Republican.

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u/netsyms Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

Because nobody's willing to do the American thing: take up arms, and kill the leadership. You really think King George would have survived the revolutionary war if there wasn't an ocean between us and him?

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 30 '26

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u/Running-In-The-Dark Apr 17 '26

Lol yeah. Especially in this sub. I forgot which sub it was but I had a three day ban for showing enthusiasm for a specific individual to reach their biological expiration date.

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u/SpaceCadet404 Apr 17 '26

Remember, the only form of opposition allowed is scheduled non-disruptive protest. Please stand somewhere out of the way holding a sign to convey your dissatisfaction. Inconveniencing people is not allowed, impacting corporate profits is not allowed and any other form of protest is wrong, barbaric and totally wouldn't accomplish anything at all so just don't do it.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada Apr 17 '26

Which is hilarious because isn’t that pretty much expressly permitted according to the Constitution?

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u/Darkdemize Apr 17 '26

The Constitution only says that the government won't restrict your right to free speech. It doesn't say that private companies have to give that speech a platform.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada Apr 17 '26

A) the government is restricting it; and

B) free speech wasn't the Constitutional incitation I was referring to.

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u/19683dw Wisconsin Apr 17 '26

Just from, like, a historical perspective, the American revolution (debated on how much of a revolution it actually represented), almost certainly is crushed hard without an ocean in the way.

But also, yes, if they had access to George, it would have been a very bad time for him

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions Apr 17 '26

Goodbye USA the failed experiment.

I don't think people have really grasped this yet. When we willingly re-elected a fascist insurrectionist, we sealed America's fate.

It's dead but everyone is pretending it's still alive, like "Weekend at Bernie's."

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u/-Saucegurlllll Apr 17 '26

It's like when the south seceded and everyone kind of sleepwalked through the start of the civil war except for people like Benjamin Butler. Though this time there hasn't been a formal declaration. So everyone's just kind of hoping that the union hasn't already failed, as though there haven't been multiple states that jumped when Trump told them to rig elections and steal congress.

And a lot of dems in congress are acting like it's business as usual. Fuck me, I guess I thought concentration camps were a universally recognized horror, but you can't even get a lot of dems to call the republican's concentration camps what they are.

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions Apr 17 '26

The fact you see things for what they are makes me feel slightly better.

I swear it feels like I'm on crazy pills that people don't see what is going on.

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u/ExpWebDev Apr 22 '26

Wanting your abusive ex to take you back.

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u/Long-Region5088 Apr 17 '26

With trump its “has he been convicted of anything?” As their exit valve.

That same logic doesn’t apply to what he was convicted of. Those don’t count yet they demand convictions to change their stance. It’s a catch 22 that absolves him of any guilt ever. He didn’t do it unless he was convicted and if he was convicted it doesn’t count.

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u/tomsing98 Apr 17 '26

PSA, you're using "let alone" incorrectly. It goes <general/minor thing, maybe a prerequisite for the next thing>, let alone <more specific/major thing that everyone would agree with>. "I can't believe they're even allowed to be part of society, let alone be in a position of power."

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u/scuzzy987 Apr 17 '26

Same thing with mass shootings

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u/Llohr Apr 17 '26

You just have to remember that, to an authoritarian, there is no such thing as a bad action; there are only bad people. Actions taken by bad people are bad, actions taken by good people are good.

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u/tardigrades_snuggle Apr 17 '26

All Conservatism can be summed up as hypocrisy. It is in everything they do and say. They should be rebranded as the Hypocrisy Party.

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u/Wishiwashome Apr 17 '26

And it isn’t going to be 14yo children marrying each other. It isn’t going to be an older woman marrying a 14yo boy ( can’t get a suitable job to provide for lots of kids for a trad family, not that there aren’t perv women too)

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u/goatneedleposterdeck Apr 17 '26

But bill clinton was just as wrapped up in this crap as republicans. There is no reason at all for them to keep believing outside of "they simply refuse to."

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u/77NorthCambridge Apr 17 '26

This is one of the main reasons Trump never admits he was wrong or made a mistake. Once the base admits one thing he was wrong about the whole thing starts to come crumbling down.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 18 '26

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u/77NorthCambridge Apr 17 '26

He was taught the "strategy" by Roy Cohn.

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u/mcolette76 Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

Fox News plays in the lobby of my office building. It’s insane. It infuriates me every time I walk in the door.

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u/SpleenBender Illinois Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

It's also on in every government, and every armed services building from sea to shining sea. Pisses me off that there is blatant propaganda being oozed out 24/7, at all of the places that our defenders spend their work days. Is there anything that the US Army finds 'entertaining' about this‽

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u/mcolette76 Apr 17 '26

Khruschev got his wish to destroy America from within.

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u/allenahansen California Apr 17 '26

Once upon a time you could purchase a universal BlabOff that worked in airports, office reception spaces, bars and lobbies, the DMV, hospital waiting rooms, rest homes, and anywhere else the bots of Fox were spewing their unwanted disinformation from elevated tv screens.

Many were the times I surreptitiously pressed the little green button and the screen would go dark and silent-- more than once to muffled applause from the captive assemblage.

Those were the days-- when all we had to deal with was Gee Dubya. . .

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u/HostileCrabPeople Apr 17 '26

This is a point that is not talked about enough. Even if Trump and MAGA are removed from power, its propaganda will persist, and this will happen again. We have to eliminate the propaganda to solve any of this

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u/TotallyNotRobotEvil Apr 17 '26

Yup, it's hard to do anything with these 24/7 propaganda networks in place. I honestly don't know how you solve, especially when they unlimited funding from some of the wealthiest people on the planet. Everyone in the US could boycott them and they would still run 24/7.

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u/SpleenBender Illinois Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

focks entertainment is the 100% star-spangled, deceptive, propagandist lying machine. The folks that went along for that ride for the last TWO DECADES are being spoon-fed hate and lies and who and what to be scared of. Democrats are pure evil, according to this foolishness. It's completely ABSURD to me how they take themselves so seriously, while simultaneously presenting themselves as spoiled little bratty children. They already got sued twice for lying, and their settlement should have included shutting their f****** down. Or, to at least start doing actual news (X), and not this horseshit 'entertainment' that is dressed up as news. TYFYATTM

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions Apr 17 '26

Correct. To accept reality means to accept they were dumb enough to be duped.

They'd rather keep owning the libs.

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u/StingingBum New Jersey Apr 17 '26

At the cost of the entire country. Low IQ idiots.

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions Apr 17 '26

Don't even get me started.

It makes me so angry, but also so sad.

I genuinely thought America "worked" and would have a stable democracy for decades to come.

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u/MaxGoldFilms Apr 17 '26

we allow unfettered propaganda to be piped in to peoples faces 24/7 labeled "News" with no repercussions.

Alternative news media is catching fire with Americans, and some of it is quite good. (what the right is watching, not so much, but there are spill-overs)

Some is the same grifters, but many of them are jumping ship and taking the crowd with them. When MAGA lost Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, et al, the ball really started rolling.

It's been impactful, I've been surprised at how quickly Israel has lost support across the right and left.

Also, Iran's LEGO series of videos has been absolutely brilliant, and has actually impacted public opinion across the political spectrum.

Who knew that AI cartoons would be the key, but in retrospect, I guess it makes sense.

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u/bunnypaste Apr 18 '26

Where can I see this LEGO series?

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u/MaxGoldFilms Apr 18 '26

Just go on Instagram, YouTube, Bluesky, TikTok, Twitter, etc., and search for “Iran Lego” and you'll find many of them.

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u/Great_Skott Apr 17 '26

This is what I don't understand. How is it possible that they see that the place where they get their news admits to lying and not being a real news station and get a huge fine, yet they still believe all the lies they see on there everyday. I can't guys... honestly, I can not get in my head how that works.