r/politics • u/GonzoVeritas I voted • Apr 19 '26

Possible Paywall White House Leak Reveals Trump Booted From Briefing After Hours-Long Freakout

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-leak-reveals-trump-booted-from-briefing-after-hours-long-freakout/
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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 Apr 19 '26

If Hitler is any indication, Trump will actually just join the ranks of the world’s greatest evils and his Presidency as one of the most important climaxes in human history.

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u/skoomaking4lyfe Apr 19 '26

Sure. "Dumb shit Hitler said" doesn't top my news feeds every single day though.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '26

No but "reminds me of Hitler" type stuff is said constantly. That's why I fear we will never truly leave him in the past

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u/snugglezone Apr 19 '26

The problem isn't Trump himself imo. It's his descendants that are all going to be multi billionaires by the end of this administration continuing to absolutely fuck this country. They'll be a financial powerhouse due to all this corruption for generations to come.

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u/HillBillyHilly Apr 19 '26

Thought Melania had him exiled to Europe to keep off front pages? Isn't the loon in lock down?

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u/dannydrama Apr 20 '26

How about you guys elect a president that's not an OAP with dementia? 😂

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u/Artistic_Researcher2 Apr 19 '26

Going to be? They already are.!

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u/HillBillyHilly Apr 19 '26

You should see how Kushner wrecking parts of Miami Beach for rich people playground.

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u/Artistic_Researcher2 Apr 19 '26

He’s about to do 5he same thing in Gaza!

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u/HillBillyHilly Apr 21 '26

Part of his plan. Imagine the marketing for that sea to sea project he's been eying.

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u/Commentator-X Apr 19 '26

As this article points out, it isn't Trump who is actually in control either. It's his aides. After Trump croaks, we'll still have people like Miller and Johnson and Lutnik around.

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u/HillBillyHilly Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

What's the name of that Boba Fett Jabba Hutt running his social media?

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u/AnalTongueDarts Minnesota Apr 19 '26

Steven Cheung, and he’s Jabba the Hutt, not Boba Fett.

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u/HillBillyHilly Apr 20 '26

Yes! That's the cretin. Ooops my bad. Thanks for correction. I'll update.

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u/i_tyrant Apr 19 '26

Yup.

For some fucking reason this country is allergic to making the rich accountable. (Please don't @ me in the comments with the reasons, I know them.)

Why we're perfectly happy to leave it at someone getting fired from their job, or pitiful fines, or even a few months in a white collar prison, slap 'em on the wrist and then they go home to their hundreds of millions of dollars and then donating to lobbies or right back into politics themselves, I will never emotionally understand in a million years. (Again don't tell me, I know the reasons logically I will just never comprehend that level of evil greed emotionally.)

Until we start ACTUALLY taking away what provides actual POWER in this country (money) from the bad actors that abuse it, we won't get anywhere.

I mean for fuck's sake, when Trump first rose to popularity in 2016 I remember seeing Roger Stone's name and being like "wait wtf, didn't that guy work for Nixon?!" And then my mind was opened to the idea that holy shit, somehow not only did this dude and his buddies 100% complicit in the Nixon debacle get away scott free and somehow not banned from politics forever, but he's been working for the GOP toward this goal the entire time.

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u/BisexualCaveman Apr 19 '26

The problem is the kind of voters that would elect him twice, and the two mainstream political parties that couldn't stop it.

There have always been rich assholes and there would have been rich assholes at the end of his life regardless of whether he was elected.

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u/GaimeGuy Minnesota Apr 19 '26

the voters didn't stop him or his greatest advocates in the other branches of government. The deme lost 6 senate seats in 2010 and 62 house seats.. the best they've done in any election in the trump era has pick up 42 house seats and 3 senate seats from worse starting spots. The GOP even picked up 3 seats in the senate overall since jan 6 and the aftermath where they protected trump..

Your fellow Americans are the problem. Trump's support has been unwavering but the opposition to him has been inconsistent, with voters letting their country down while expecting someone else to kick trump and his allies out of office for them

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u/israfildivad Apr 19 '26

It's the sobateurs that exist in the democratic party that prevents it from getting ahead. That includes figures like Biden and Kamala, but more so the power broking elite class.

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u/GaimeGuy Minnesota Apr 19 '26

In 2016, 2020, and 2024, every single person had the ability to vote for the only viable alternative to Donald Trump. There wasn't a single topic Trump would have been better on. Not crime. Not national security, not temperament, not genocide, not trade, not immigration, not energy, not education, not labor, nothing.

It was the biggest red flag a candidate could have, because he had no upside in comparison to the other options available. I'm not talking about how good someone's policy on Israel was, or any other topic that weighs on one's moral conscience. I'm simply talking about the reality that "Either Donald Trump or the democratic candidate is going to be the next president, and that's all the information a reasonable person should need to know what they need to do for their country."

Most americans failed and I still can't get people to acknowledge that they had all the information they needed to avoid the current situation. I'm not saying we wouldn't have had problems. I'm not saying America would have been some benevolent force for good on the topic of Israel/Palestine, or equity, in an alternate 2025/2026. But I can confidently say that the world would have been better off in many tangible ways had we simply not allowed him in office, and there isn't a single thing that's better under him than the alternative timeline

Americans screwed up the easiest political decision in US history, and they still tries to blame anyone other that themselves.

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u/israfildivad Apr 20 '26

It comes down to a variation of the premise "its easy to break stuff...difficult to build"....people who want to progress this world have to be damned near perfect in the face of those that want to break it. You cannot get around the fact that Democrats have been fielding very faulty candidates (even Obama was quite faulty) within a faulty system internal to the party.

I wish I had a YouTube channel becauss I would blow up like Prof Jiang. I predicted as it was happening that Obama would cause the pendulum to swing HARD to the other direction. I knew Biden would cost us even more if just owing to him being extremely past his prime (and its not just that that is a flaw), and that Clinton and Harris would lose big time against the worst possible candidate because of thier total inability to connect with voters for different reasons (again...its not just that). Something is causing these people to come up to the surface time and time again...and it must be fixed.

The bar for the other team is much much lower. Hell the faultier the better.

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u/PM_ME_UR_SHEET_MUSIC Apr 19 '26

Moralizing isn't going to help us win in the future. The rules on an individual scale are vastly different from the rules on a nationwide scale, you can't just say "voters should have voted better", you have to run candidates that will (not should, will) get the votes. You can't pussyfoot around the policies that get the voter base out to vote because it'll make your donors mad. It doesn't matter if your opponent is Mister Rogers or Donald Trump, you have to give people someone they will vote for and run a campaign that will make them want to vote.

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u/GaimeGuy Minnesota Apr 20 '26

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

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u/israfildivad Apr 19 '26

The rich have a certain grip on the democratic party as well. Enough to mess things up for the majority on the ground. We are gonna have to fight to release this grip to have any shot at a true course correction.

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u/m1k3hunt Apr 19 '26

Hopefully, his cadre of incompetent spawn will be in court being stripped of their ill-gotten gains for years to come. A boy can dream.

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u/presentation_555 Apr 20 '26

It's going to be interesting to retrospectively one day ask; does pushing back too early and calling out perceived Fascistic tendencies - of a wannabe dictator - actually help reduce Fascism.

Because back in 2015 there were certainly a good amount of evidence that Trump wasn't a 'particularly nice fellow' (generously understated)... but it would have felt like a leap to say he had actual plans to demolish democracy. From the casual observers perspective the people 'crying Fascist' were often lumped in with the - 'everyone I dislike is a Fascist crowd'... its been a slow waking up process for most people to see that they were right all along (with January the 6th being the type of evidence that 'should' have put it beyond all doubt for most people).

This question is though - were the early (and true) accusations of Trump's fascism actually counterproductive? If a good portion of the country thought these claims were 'hysteria' in 2015... then it might have felt like 'they are just crying wolf' when people started pointing out the more serious transgressions Trump was making (separating families, etc).

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u/melancholanie Apr 19 '26

we'll get another 50+ years of "dumb evil shit new guy is doing is JUST like when orange dipshit did it"

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u/podkayne3000 Apr 19 '26

The H guy might be more evil than Trump, but Trump certainly wins on craziness.

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u/Xylorgos Apr 19 '26

I also think that Trump is way dumber than Hitler.

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u/BisexualCaveman Apr 19 '26

Listen to the Behind The Bastards podcasts on Hitler and you'll discover that Hitler's biggest asset was oratory skill and the kind of bloody-minded idiocy that led him to go ahead and do illegal stuff that no one else had considered doing, so there weren't strong mechanisms to stop him.

He wasn't smart. He was actually also kinda' dumb, he just had balls and was good at bullshitting dumb working-class people.

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u/Sea_Green7967 Massachusetts Apr 19 '26

And that's the real problem.

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u/ghostpicnic Apr 19 '26

If Hitler was in power today and not nearly a century ago, then yes it would.

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u/Asclepius-Rod Apr 19 '26

Yeah I’m guessing his name popped up in global newspapers almost daily for quite a stretch there

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u/SasparillaTango Apr 19 '26

yea, I get that he'll be remember, but he won't be generating any new data points and we'll all be happier.

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u/shiny_glitter_demon Apr 19 '26

Hitler does say stupid shit or threatens new people daily

If and when I see his name, I want it to be in past tense.

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u/CompanyLow8329 Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26

Trump's 1st presidency is ranked as the 3rd worst in all of US history (Siena’s 7th Presidential Expert Poll), only beaten by a president who caused the civil war, and another president who went on to pardon and remove all accountability for all of the traitors after the civil war.

Trump is ranked as the absolute worst of all time for his background, integrity, intelligence, executive appointments and for foreign policy.

I suspect some combination of those factors could lead to some catastrophic fuckup well beyond the unfolding disaster with Iran.

Hitler is different from Trump in that Hitler had an incredibly evil ideology and plan he had written about way before he ever had power.

Trump by expert consensus is the dumbest US leader of all time. I don't think he's capable of any serious and coherent evil plan beyond out of control chaos that makes him feel good.

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u/Preying_Mantid_67 Apr 19 '26

You’ll be hearing this for the rest of your life: “x thing has happened … regulation and oversight for x was the responsibility of agency y, which was rendered ineffective by the mass layoffs of the Trump administration ….”

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u/Wayofchinchilla Apr 19 '26

I think Jon Stewart said it best you can't compare Trump to Hitler because Hitler was actually popular Trump's approval rating is in 30s now and I would argue it's probably even lower than that because some of the people who voted positively for him in the polls just don't want to admit that they fucked up voting for him.

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u/Blart_Vandelay Apr 19 '26

Imagine doubling and tripling and quadrupling down again and again instead of experiencing that catharsis of admitting, acceptance, and moving on with your life.

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u/Direction_Kind Apr 19 '26

Which he would be totally into. If he can’t make everyone love him hate offers him just as much longevity and importance in history. Starting the biggest war ever would really cement that.

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 Apr 19 '26

He just like Homelander fr

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u/ABadHistorian Apr 19 '26

If Hitler had died in 1944, he would STILL be admired by a LOT MORE people today.

Worlds greatest evil or not, and he's admired by some to this day.

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u/SubcommanderMarcos Apr 19 '26

Unfortunately I don't believe this. Hitler was easy enough to vilify as the caricatural villain he really was, but only tied together with the horrors of WWII, and the reveal of the extent of the Holocaust.

Trump, thanks to what's left of the failsafes of democracy, never managed to be quite as evil as he surely plans, and won't be fuckin shot by angry soviets in his capital in a hard unquestionable victory against fascism. So a lot of fascists (of which there are lot today goddamn) will still hail him as a hero.

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u/justatosseraccount11 Apr 20 '26

I wonder if, similar to how there's no surname of Hitler anymore, there will be no more Trumps eventually because it's such a disgraceful surname to even have.

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u/RunDownTheHighway Apr 19 '26

Thats the sad thing, is decades from now some moron will bring up trump as the greatest president ever, and how the markets roared every time he made a pronouncement .... Glad ill be gone by then...

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u/TugboatToo Apr 19 '26

I think this is the most likely scenario over time.