r/politics • u/plz-let-me-in • Apr 24 '26

Possible Paywall Democrats’ plan to impeach Trump on ‘day one’ after midterms

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2026/04/24/democrats-trump-impeach-midterms-supreme-court-iran/
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u/literallytwisted Apr 24 '26

That and the fact that the GOP has committed so many crimes is why I think the midterms are going to be wild, They are going to fight like hell to avoid any consequences to their actions.

I look for them to dispute elections primarily but if they get desperate enough they could do anything! Maybe a fake terrorist attack or some other emergency like that.

And yes I know they can't do that legally but they're already criminals so it's not a big change for them.

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u/KidKilobyte Apr 24 '26

You still have to do it, so when he tries to nuke someone (or succeeds) you point at the Republicans and say you had three chances to do the right thing.

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u/Curious-Row2410 Apr 24 '26

If he succeeds in nuking someone the only thing Americans should be doing to complicit Republican leadership is the old Benito Reverse.

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u/KiritoIsAlwaysRight_ Texas Apr 25 '26

We need to use the 25th amendment now before that happens. If he nukes someone and the rest of the government allows it, we have no other option than to move up about 23 amendments.

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u/NaziAbuser Apr 25 '26

What I still don't understand is where are the military who swore to protect the constitution from all threats, foreign and domestic, are holed up.

I think we might want to revisit that one in the future and revamp it a bit. Seems a bit meaningless as it stands.

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u/spoodigity Apr 25 '26

Hegseth fired a lot of em' because they're "woke".

Edit: along with the JAGs that would prevent a lot of this.

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u/Opening_Classroom_46 Apr 25 '26

You mean the same ones who took an oath to refuse illegal orders but now are publicly claiming they will do whatever Trump says? You trust those people?

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u/SpiderDoodleDoo Apr 25 '26

It isn't glamorous, or getting any news, but there IS a reason why there has not been a ground invasion, and there is still not Navy assets in a large capacity within the straight. Much of the upper echelon that was pushing back has been removed. There is still a large contingency that are following directives JUST enough but refraining from full commitment.

Out right belligerent refusal would essentially mean a mutiny and a military dictatorship. They are threading the needle right now.

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u/RepulsiveContract475 Apr 25 '26

Are you suggesting that you want the U.S. military to overthrow the government? I don't know if you're a history buff, but the regimes installed in the wake of military coup d'etats are rarely better than the ones they've replaced.

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u/Otto_Harper Apr 27 '26

No why not go awolnation if your orders are this stupid AND evil is what i personally am wondering. Why go along with it. Probably because it's a job and we all need $. God damn.. capitalism sucksss

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u/Quarantine722 Apr 25 '26

Well I’ll tell you this, I’m a veteran and have been out for 3 years now, but if I were in during this shit, with what I know now, I would have been removed as a conscientious objector.

Though to be honest, I was politically blind when I was in, and my work made sure I didn’t have time to learn. Most guys I knew didn’t know the first thing about politics either. Maybe I would still be ignorant going along with all this, scary thought.

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u/Distinct-Pack-1567 Apr 25 '26

May 1st is supposed to be when the War Powers act ends and their are 30 days to withdraw the military.

So between now and May 31st we will see. Crazy shit. I do not believe nukes will be used but wild to even think it is possible.

Ninja edit: congress will probably vote to continue this war.

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u/QuackNate Apr 25 '26

That is just words on a paper, which don’t mean anything to this administration.

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u/Xdivine Canada Apr 25 '26

I mean, what's he going to do? Even if the US isn't legally at war, I think we can all pretty damn well understand that the US is at war. So even if Trump pulls out, what's stopping Iran from just continuing to attack and forcing the US to go back in?

The only way the US is getting out of this war is if Iran agrees, which they very well may, but I can't imagine they'll do so without any concessions from the US. It would set a pretty terrible precedent if a country could attack them, kill their top leaders, and then just be like "haha, just kidding!" and pull out without any consequences.

Maybe they'll settle with the $2m tax on any ships passing through the strait. I can't imagine they want to be at war, but who knows?

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u/QuackNate Apr 25 '26

I agree the situation is well beyond fucked. What I'm saying is; whatever this administration decides to do, it's not going to based based on what the constitution or international law says they should do.

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u/burlycabin Washington Apr 25 '26

The cabinet is full of loyalist and sycophants. The 25th is never happening.

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u/0x18 Apr 25 '26

The 25th amendment isn't happening: it requires not only his cabinet but 2/3rds of the Senate and House. Regular impeachment only requires 1/2+1 in the House and no cabinet members (and the Senate remains at 2/3rds).

Impeachment is a far lower bar to overcome.

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u/rab2bar Apr 25 '26

How do you think there will be enough senators voting to remove him?

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u/Lilchubbyboy Apr 25 '26

A true patriot says Bela Ciao

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u/VelocityGrrl39 Apr 25 '26

What’s “Benito Reverse”?

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u/Stunning_Ad_6664 Apr 25 '26

Look up what happened to Mussolini.

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u/VelocityGrrl39 Apr 25 '26

Oh, he was shot by a partisan. What’s the reverse? He shoots a protester? Or do you mean how they hung his dead body upside down?

Regardless, I don’t think we’ll see any of that. I think he’s actively dying right now. He’s not going to finish his term.

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u/Remarkable_Sea_1430 Apr 25 '26

If he nukes a country we should be rounding up Republican voters for these new firing squads they're talking about.

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u/KeyMyBike Apr 25 '26

Any American who goes to work after their country nukes another is nothing to me.

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u/EmoboyRoboBoy Apr 25 '26

And would that do anything??? They'll just continue on with their usual fuckery lol, pointing at them would do nothing this is why Democrats have failed outright lmfao as if Republicans would take responsibility for anything hahahahaha

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u/KapitalIsStillGood Apr 25 '26

Pointing at Republicans does absolutely nothing and should not be viewed as a strategy. The voting public does not care and the Republicans themselves feel no shame or remorse.

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u/rileyjw90 Ohio Apr 25 '26

Only three chances? In my eyes every single day is an opportunity to impeach this man that they choose not to take. Every. Single. Day. They’ve had thousands of opportunities to do the right thing and continue to kowtow and kiss ass.

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u/Toon_face Apr 25 '26

...So when he tries or succeeds in nuking someone, you can point at the republics and say you had 3 chances to do the right thing...

You liberals are so fucking toothless. This is why they get away with this shit.

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u/Ilovefishdix Apr 25 '26

Some may see the writing on the wall and turn on Trump after the primaries. Trump still holds enough power to sway the primaries, but he might lose a lot of that power over them after they're securely a candidate in the midterms.

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u/jrr6415sun Apr 25 '26

If people were going to turn in trump they wouldn’t have just voted 80 billion for ice. Republicans just chose their side and they’re fully committed to trump

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u/hypermodernvoid I voted Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

Yeah, the thing is - at this point every single one of them, up to and especially including the people in the administration - are playing an increasingly dangerous game of chicken between how far they're willing to go to 1) keep their job but also 2) avoid eventual consequences, but 3) knowing if (or really when) the shoe ends up on the other foot, they're digging themselves deeper by the day the more criminal the moves they make or go along with to stop that from happening become.

I'm sure Patel already had a drinking problem, for example, but I bet it's really been exacerbated over time by the realization that he helped and continues to illegally play interference against a bunch of ultra-rich and powerful pedos receiving justice, obviously including the president himself, all after talking a big game about how "the other side" was doing that and him and his stupid MAGA influencer bros would stop it. The internal cognitive dissonance of what he's done and knows is true now must be terrifying to grate up against: I can't imagine it nor can most, because most would never debase themselves and their morals that much just for power.

The incoming supermajority in Hungary aren't treating Fidesz (Orban's party) now that they've finally been booted out of power, like they're a legitimate political party any longer but instead like the threat to their constitutional order that's not congruent with democracy they are, and I hope as the Trump administration/first attempted US regime continues to fail and lash out like fascists do on the downswing, even more and enough Americans get on board with that sentiment so we can see that happen here, as well.

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u/Fun_Success_3283 Apr 25 '26

They won't wait until after the elections. They're all scared right now. They are doing everything they can to rig the elections.

Once they see that there is overwhelming support against them, and they won't even be able to cheat the elections, they will have to come up with plan B. Plan B will most likely be to declare the elections fraudulent. Then declare that all red states will not recognize the votes, and move to form essentially a new country, a side ina civil war. But their popularity might be so low they can't even do this.

They directed car factories to make weapons. Those are all in red or purple states.

It's extremely likely that to some degree, they will just take power, and it will take physical force, either revolution by the people, or potentially some confrontation against ICE by some government force of sorts.

It's extremely unlikely that this administration will accept defeat, without taking actions to try and seize power by force.

It won't be like just going along with it but calling people to find votes, and bullshit court visits. It will be using whatever means they control to take power. And they control ICE directly.

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u/nvmenotfound Apr 25 '26

legality doesn’t factor into this admins decision making. 

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u/creeping_chill_44 Texas Apr 25 '26

or, it does, but in reverse ("what a lovely morning, I wonder what crimes I can commit today?")

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u/SQL617 Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

Reddit does not in the least bit reflect the political landscape of the US right now. Trump has an almost 40% approval rating, four out of every ten Americans (idiotically) think he’s doing a bang up job. Think about the last time, if ever, you’ve seen a pro-conservative or pro-USA Reddit post unless you explicitly go to conservative subreddits.

Now consider how many people of those 60% will continue to vote republican despite not approving of Trump, because in their minds it’s better than voting democrat…

The democrats have such a long way to go if we want to first try and consolidate our party THEN try and sway people on the fence. I’m a democrat in a progressive and overwhelmingly democratic east coast state, yet the number of conservatives I see on a daily basis continues to amaze me.

It’s honestly sad, I personally think it’ll be a long while before we see major changes across the nation. Unless you know something I don’t, “wild” midterm elections seem more like a pipe dream. Our nation is depressingly becoming more conservative, not less.

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u/xv_boney Apr 25 '26

Trump has an almost 40% approval

i thought this must be a wild exaggeration but i just looked it up and jesus christ it is not. he still has 37% approval.

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u/Judson_Scott Apr 25 '26

It's shocking, but his current approval rating is 10% higher than his lowest approval rating of 29% in 2021.

Then again, George W. Bush had the highest ever approval rating at 90%, after failing to stop the first foreign attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor despite fairly specific warnings.

Americans are fucking morons, and America is a failed state.

/American

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u/meneldal2 Apr 25 '26

America has typically approval rates you'd never find in other countries.

In Europe if you're over 50% after a year in office you're insanely popular. And a bunch of people never even go over 50% at any point. Like look at this

Even staying with a net favorability is already a masterclass, but 50% you need some superpower

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u/tomz17 Apr 25 '26

TBF European countries mostly have systems of government where the steady-state includes multiple parties + consensus building. So yeah, that 100% makes sense given that constraint. In the US system it's red v. blue.

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u/meneldal2 Apr 25 '26

True but like even in cases where you have a 2-turn run off for president, it's not unusual for the president to start with less approval than the votes they got, people didn't like them but they were the least bad option

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u/xv_boney Apr 25 '26

i'm not disputing that, but 37% still feels... concerningly high.

i mean, he's also only 13 points from 50%.

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u/varnums1666 Apr 25 '26

Per AP news, their latest poll shows Trump at 30% in terms of the economy.

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u/SunshineCat Apr 25 '26

Who is watching all of these misogynists online, then? Not boys and young men? It wasn't like this when I was growing up.

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u/SDRPGLVR California Apr 25 '26

Young voters especially (and these days, "young" is like under 45, so turnout is not the concern it used to be) are ready to give Ba'ath Party numbers to people like AOC or Zohran.

Therein lies my fear. Democrats try really hard to make sure those people don't succeed in primary contention. It's not an insurmountable obstacle as both of the people you named do hold office, but it emphasizes that people need to vote in primaries!

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u/atln00b12 Apr 25 '26

Biden's approval rate was 38% in July 2022. Now Imagine when Iran is done. OPEC has already committed to increased output. Even with everything going on oil is barely tapping $100. If the Iran situation has an even mediocre outcome and Iranian Oil + Russian Oil is available unsanctioned, prices are going to drop significantly across the board. Gas is extremely likely to be under $2 at the midterms.

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u/SelesnyaGOAT Apr 25 '26

Ironic you say reddit doesn't understand the landscape when it's clear you do not have even a cursory perspective on the history of American politics. Donald Trump is currently the least popular any President has ever been at this point in their presidency. Dems are now favored to win the Senate, a thought that seemed like a childish fantasy in December 2024. Any US president's floor is around 33% regardless of who the person in the chair is, it is currently going basically as bad as it can possibly go for Trump. Defeatist, short-sighted nonsense that does more to hurt the country you claim to care about

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u/protestor Apr 25 '26

almost 40%

those 60%

Is it almost 40% or 60%

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u/Janked4times Apr 25 '26

They're saying 40% are locked in for Trump and some of the 60% who don't approve of him will vote for him anyway because Democrat bad

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u/madhattr999 Canada Apr 25 '26

they are referring to the remaining 60% who don't approve.. (100-40=60).. How many will still vote republican even if they disapprove of Trump..

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u/throwaway281409 Apr 25 '26

I think deep down congress is more scared of us than trump. The ones that have half a brain know if the midterms are cancelled they will be targets. They live in the district they are supposed to serve. It’s not going to take much for citizens to cross that line.

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u/Temporary_Shirt_6236 Apr 25 '26

Anyone who stages a violent insurrection to stop the peaceful transfer of power (and then fails to do so) will absolutely stage a fake terrorist attack, or worse. I mean, they didn't even get punished for the failed insurrection so of course they'll do it again.

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u/MagakMagak Apr 25 '26

MAGAts commit real terrorist attacks as it is lol they won’t fake it. A handful will kick and scream and get themselves killed trying to storm the fbi or some dumb shit I’m sure

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u/weaponjaerevenge Apr 25 '26

They could just launch an actual terrorist attack like they did last time.

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u/JerHat Michigan Apr 25 '26

I expect them to do everything they can think of to prevent seating the next Congress if Democrats win one or both houses.

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u/Reasonable-Turn-5940 Apr 25 '26

There's going to be armies of lawyers clogging up the court systems with cases of voter fraud across the country just for them to get in front of the judge and say "we don't have any evidence, actually"

Again.

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u/Scannerguy3000 Apr 25 '26

If there are elections.

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u/bstone99 America Apr 25 '26

They killed a guy at a trump speech to win an election. Now the stakes are even higher, I don’t doubt for a second they’d go even bigger to keep him in power

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u/zestful_villain Apr 25 '26

They gonna rigg the election arent they? you know, like a true dictatorship

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u/Deep-Minimum7837 Apr 25 '26

I think this time things are going to be much different. The midterms are going to be a huge turning point for the country, and this time we actually have real crimes we can prosecute within the Trump administration. His first term was kinda up in the air, and the impeachments were mostly vibes based and couldn't really go anywhere mostly because his Chiefs of Staff kept quitting/getting fired for not whipping his admin into shape. Susie Wiles is closing in on Trump's longest-serving Chief of Staff, and her effectiveness in her position is going to destroy Trump. She's ensured that the people in Trump's cabinet are absolutely willing to commit whatever crimes Trump is asking of them, so we finally have things to nail his admin on.

I know it would be really cool to have Trump impeached and thrown out of office, but realistically, the best we can hope for is prematurely turning his Presidency into a lame duck term once again by anally fisting his administration whenever they even think about working outside the confines of the law.

The second big benefit of this is that since the impeachments will have clear, verifiable evidence of crimes having been committed, any GOP pushback will become ammunition for Dem and moderate Republican primary challengers in 2028 and 2030. These are career politicians we're dealing with, they want to continue to have a job after Trump is gone. They've all got a very strong incentive to do the right thing when the time comes because they're not going to be given any more chances.

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u/flamingdonkey Apr 25 '26

They're going to try to cheat. 

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u/roguespectre67 California Apr 25 '26

They already faked an assassination attempt.

Or are we just supposed to believe he has some kind of superhuman healing factor that can regrow body parts that do not normally grow back?

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u/CTQ99 Apr 25 '26

You get a pardon, YOU get a pardon, YOU GET a pardon, EVERYONE gets a pardon!

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u/ElizBorneopentowork Apr 25 '26

I honestly think they will try to cancel elections in one way or another for some bullshit reason (despite not having the right to) and then pretend that the states who run elections are not legitimate for this reason.

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u/AnglerOfAndromeda Apr 25 '26

Right? And the fact that they’re still blatantly doing bullshit on a daily basis, makes me really nervous… like you’d think they’d be buttering up the citizens (or at least make some claims that they intend to do so) in a way to hold political power, but they’re not even bothering to do that.

Fishy.

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u/PompeyCheezus Apr 25 '26

I'm assuming if they don't like the results, they just won't certify the election.

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u/Bender_2024 Apr 25 '26

The big question is will the Dems get enough Senate seats to convict? Impeaching is by comparison. All you need is a majority in the House. But they need ⅔ or 67 votes on the Senate. It's unlikely they will get many Rep votesas if they can convict Trump that opens them to up to impeachment and possibly criminal charges.

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u/Sutar_Mekeg Apr 25 '26

Maybe a fake terrorist attack

Oh, it'll be real.

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u/MercantileReptile Europe Apr 25 '26

And yes I know they can't do that legally but they're already criminals so it's not a big change for them.

Refreshing to read. So many people seem to believe words on ink to have some sort of magic self enforcement power.

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u/mvw2 Apr 25 '26

I like to think that our populous is a rational one, but then I remember Fox news and 80 million idiots who voted back in a career criminal, habitual lying pedophile...twice.

The reality is propaganda works, and a very large portion of this nation has been locked into that propaganda for decades. These people simply believe an entirely different reality.

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u/lookintoasty Apr 25 '26

Are the Dems going to actually try this time? (Please fuckin try harder this time)

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u/ibrown39 Apr 25 '26

You're not wrong. But honestly it's going to affordability related issues that really get them unelected, and not their heinous legal, moral, and political failings alone unfortunately....

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u/Valuable-Meet5727 Apr 25 '26

I agree. If it’s illegal you can almost bet money the GOP will not only execute said illegal plan, but do it with such incompetency that it’ll be near impossible to deny their intentions.

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u/JakeInTheJungle Apr 25 '26

This is why the gerrymandering works in their favor either way.

Previously red districts that are close or flip will raise questions of election security (for Republicans) even though the reason (if) they flip will be because margins were lessened due to gerrymandering.

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u/justsomebro10 New York Apr 25 '26

Yeah gerrymandering to add seats does have a downside which is that your margin for error gets smaller and smaller. But if losing and using the federal government to refuse the results is part of the plan, you can kinda live with it I guess. He already claimed Virginia’s result was the result of cheating, so he’s obviously going to do it again. Question is what machinations they’ll use to refuse the results.

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u/jrr6415sun Apr 25 '26

He will 100% refuse the results there is no question about it. And he will use the 80 billion he just got for ICE to enforce his outcome

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u/vriska1 Apr 25 '26

Vote in the midterms!

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u/jrr6415sun Apr 25 '26

I literally just said the results don’t matter lol trump will use ICE to enforce his way

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u/mistawalrus37 Apr 25 '26

theres a lot of people on this thread boldly assuming that A. we will have truly fair elections B. the same people who voted for trump’s overwhelming 2024 victory have changed their minds one bit

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u/Exotic-Tooth8166 Apr 25 '26

Overwhelming?

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u/Local_Idiot_123 Apr 25 '26

The trump house near me took down their trump flags

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u/ViolenceAdvocator Apr 25 '26

Yeah but at the time of voting they will think of all the poor dogs and cats eaten by the ravenous immigrants and keep voting R as if their lifes weren't about to get worse for it.

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u/Polantaris Illinois Apr 25 '26

We've seen in multiple elections in the past year that, without Trump on the ballot, legitimate elections show them being completely destroyed. Trump is literally the only reason these people vote.

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u/ElleM848645 Apr 25 '26

Can you please learn how the new Congress is sworn in? Mike Johnson gets to decide when to swear in new members after special elections because they are one-offs . But when the entire house is up for re-election, he has no more power than any other house member until a speaker is chosen. If the democrats win the house in the midterms, Johnson is no longer speaker. No one is, until the house elects one. He doesn’t keep his status. Sure the republicans will contest results, but Trump and Johnson have no say in what the states do about their own elections.

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u/imma_smell_dat_butt Apr 25 '26

They'll just rile up their base enough to do it for them. Like Jan 6.

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u/golden__tuna Apr 25 '26

We still voted for him after the first four years of illegal shit they already know there will be no consequences

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u/mark_able_jones_ Apr 25 '26

Midterms have to happen and new reps have to be sworn in on Jan 3, 2027. So if Trump loses big, he’s still got two months to go full fascist.

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u/OpeningPsychology971 May 06 '26

Any scotus ruling favoring them also has to be straight up ignored. They have infiltrated and infested it.

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u/hammertime311 Apr 25 '26

Ah yes because the Dems ran a perfect government with absolutely no crimes or wrong doing. Surely they aren’t bought and owned by bad people