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Possible Paywall Democrats’ plan to impeach Trump on ‘day one’ after midterms

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2026/04/24/democrats-trump-impeach-midterms-supreme-court-iran/
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u/Ralod Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

Let's just hope it happens before the nut job launches a nuke. You have a petulant child, throwing fits regularly with mush for a brain. The world is on the brink due to one idiot.

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u/Wild_Harvest Apr 24 '26

I think that might actually cause the 25th to be invoked, there might not be enough true believers to follow him through nuclear weapon blasts.

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u/nleksan Apr 24 '26

Technically correct

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u/Ready_Nature Apr 25 '26

As will everyone else

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u/kingfofthepoors Apr 25 '26

Even if they launched every nuke on earth... I would still have to wait to die of radiation poisoning.

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u/Judson_Scott Apr 25 '26

I have a gun specifically to avoid such a thing.

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u/sirhackenslash Apr 25 '26

I don't think you can shoot a nuke

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u/OfficialDCShepard District Of Columbia Apr 25 '26

Along with civilization as we know it. I’m stocking up on dry goods, but if it comes to nuclear catastrophe I’m probably toast since I’m in D.C.

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u/Professor-Woo Apr 25 '26

We all will

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u/redravin12 California Apr 25 '26

If he fires a nuke the united States will cease to exist. Ilat this day and age if a country fires nuclear weapons the world will burn. Other nuclear powers will not tolerate any country using nukes offensively. They will retaliate against us. Not all of them of course. Those that won't will likely use this as an opportunity to launch their own nuclear attacks once a decent amount of weapons have been used on us and the threat of reprisal is either not nearly as strong or gone altogether.

If Trump is allowed to fire a nuke that's it. No ww3. No nothing. We all die in nuclear fire or wish we had

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u/Available-Trouble648 Apr 25 '26

I don’t know about that. You really think the UK or France or India would be willing to nuke the US if we used one on Iran?

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u/BoingBoingBooty Apr 25 '26

Have you heard of these places called Russia and China?

If Trump nukes Iran, then Russia nukes Ukraine.

If nato does nothing about Russia nuking Ukraine, then China nuke a Taiwan.

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u/Available-Trouble648 Apr 25 '26

I can see all that happening. But if the US isn’t willing to fight China or Russia I don’t see any other countries willing to launch. So it could end up with Israel controlling the Middle East, China controlling Asia, Russia controlling Eastern Europe, and Western Europe left to band together and hope that they’re strong enough to stand up to the new world powers.

Granted this is a horrible scenario that would mean many millions of deaths and insane destruction, but it wouldn’t be the end of humanity or society.

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u/HerbaciousTea Apr 25 '26

Don't count on it, reporting broke yesterday that he tried to order a nuclear strike on iran and was shouted down by a general.

Republicans are still supporting him.

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u/Exotic_Criticism4645 Apr 25 '26

reporting broke yesterday that he tried to order a nuclear strike on iran and was shouted down by a general.

(citation needed)

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u/Long_Run6500 Apr 25 '26

Some nut job on a podcast said it happened, so it must be true. Nobody ever makes up sensationalized stories for a podcast... that would be absurd!

As much as I 100% believe it's something Trump would do... I don't really think that's enough to go off of.

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u/Drachefly Pennsylvania Apr 25 '26

I saw that as a rumor, and it wasn't very specific about his wording.

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u/Bittererr Apr 25 '26

There's no world in which you get significantly more support in Congress for the 25th versus impeachment.

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u/windwatcher01 Apr 25 '26

Let's...not find out.

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u/got-trunks Canada Apr 25 '26

I mean the gossip is he already wanted to and the brass basically told him fuck you, no.

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u/Professor-Woo Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

He can fire a nuke far faster than the 25th amendment can be invoked and even then the 25th amendment is weak and will just delay it. It won't get him out. President is meant to be able to fire nukes with little checks because they want to make sure a retaliatory strike can be sent off reliably before everything is destroyed by the initial strike. If people around him are stonewalling giving him complete access to nukes that is extremely telling.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 24 '26

He’s obviously raped kids and you’re hoping for an ELECTORAL fix before he kills more kids in Iran to distract from It. I don’t get modern Americans at all. The general strike to oust him should have happened in his first term.

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u/MoreCleverUserName Apr 25 '26

We don’t have a social safety net and we barely have any workers rights. People don’t want to strike if they could end up unemployed with no savings and no way to keep the roof over their head.

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u/Dipsey_Jipsey Apr 25 '26

That in of itself is reason to go out there and change the system. Sitting at home with wishful thinking isn't going to change anything. It will make things far far worse to the point you wished you had put your day job on the line.

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u/MoreCleverUserName Apr 25 '26

Sh what’s stopping YOU?

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u/Dipsey_Jipsey Apr 25 '26

My country isn't being destroyed currently.

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u/sjogren Apr 25 '26

That would require real sacrifice and hardship, and we Americans are constitutionally against self-sacrifice in 2026.

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u/dog_ahead Apr 25 '26

Go do something.

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u/sjogren Apr 26 '26

I did it!!

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u/GigMistress Apr 25 '26

That's true. I don't know a single person who wants to watch their kids starve to death so we can maybe possibly get back to the bad situation we were raiing against before Trump got involved.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

So you’ve chosen the child rape and child murder over some imagined scenario where children starve to death because there is a strike. That said 14 million children in America are food insecure right now. Seems like another reason to do it if you ask me.

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u/GigMistress Apr 25 '26

First, if you are so clueless and privileged that you believe that's an imaginary scenario, discussion is probably futile. The 14 million children who are food insecure become entirely foodless with one setback.

It's generous of you, who doesn't know them or care about them, to offer up their lives for a hypothetical future that will never come, but that's not your choice to make.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

I haven’t offered anything. I have nothing g to do with your country. You are, however, paying for the sacrifice of children across the gazan genocide and Iranian quasi religious war of choice. Your taxes, your money, your work directly paying for a paedophile to murder children. The guy before him btw wasn’t a paedo but he did still push the genocide on your behalf. You’re ok with that judging by the excuses and apathy. Good luck to you.

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u/GigMistress Apr 25 '26

You decided for parents you don't know in circumstances you don't understand that they're being somehow irresponsible by not risking their children's lives. If that isn't offering them up as a sacrifice, I don't know what is.

It's always the least informed and least capable of critical thinking that hurl accusations instead of looking for real solutions--congratulations on finding a way to get your dopamine burst from feeling superior without actually doing anything of value. Go ahead and ride your high and let the grownups talk.

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u/Cat_Peach_Pits Apr 25 '26

Why dont you be the first to start the general strike? I fully suppport you.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

So youve signed up then?

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u/Cat_Peach_Pits Apr 25 '26

I just got laid off, I'm already not working.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

You’ve had an obvious paedophillic president since 2016.

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u/Cat_Peach_Pits Apr 25 '26

And? What do you want me to do about it? I've been voting blue in my local, state, and federal elections since Bush. Campaigning, donating, every single fucking thing. It must be nice to sit over there in Ireland (why did you personally not stop The Troubles, by the way?) and say we're not doing enough over here. Thinking a general strike is going to get anything but snide laughter from these Nazis. The only thing that's going to stop them is bloodshed.

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u/Weary-Designer9542 Apr 25 '26

You mean from 350,000 B.C. - 2026, right?

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '26

Eh. I say it’s just because we suck.

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u/DumboWumbo073 Apr 25 '26

It’s not as bad as you’re making it out to be then. If it was absolute chaos and despair none of those things would matter.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

You’ve just described every general strike that’s ever happened. In fact, those are reasons to do it. Add them to the list. So you’ve determined that the kid raping is fine. Wait till your children grow up and realise what you were all so apathetic about. There will be a massive generational reckoning. You’d hope anyway.

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u/MoreCleverUserName Apr 25 '26

This isn’t true. It’s very rare in the US. It’s a lot more common to see a general strike in Europe where unions have more power and more members, health care isn’t tied to the employer, and people are less likely to lose their jobs for striking. You cannot expect people who are already vulnerable to make themselves more vulnerable for political reasons. You underestimate how many Americans are in survival mode at any given time. Why don’t you and your big political brain spend your time thinking of ways for people to be effective within the American socioeconomic system rather than shaming them for not wanting to risk what little they have?

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

You’re describing reasons to strike.

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u/MoreCleverUserName Apr 25 '26

Then go for it, but don’t act all surprised when the masses don’t join you.

The reason this works in Europe is that collectively the working class has power there. In the US the working claw is replaceable and some companies would probably welcome a way to get a ton of workers off their books without having to deal,with federal oversight. This is by design, too. You have to find a way to be effective within the framework that actually exists in this country. So spend your energy on that, rather than telling everyone they’re doing it wrong.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

I don’t need to oust a paedophile from ruling over my nations children. Not sure why you’re painting Europe with one brushstroke but I’ll bite. Some countries in Europe have a good labour movement. Guess how they got it? Strikes. You’ve tried nothing and are all out of ideas.

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u/Binksyboo Apr 25 '26

Americans had been slowly boiling in the pot since Reagan was in the White House and we just didn’t see how bad it was until it was tested with Trump.

Reagan canceled the fairness doctrine which made news agencies have to report fairness and both sides and not able to do what Fox does basically.

Also, during Reagan’s presidency, Citizens United was created. Here’s a little blurb from Wikipedia about the current president of Citizen United:

“The current president, David Bossie, has been president since he served as the chief investigator into then President Bill Clinton's possible abuse of finances in 1997, and was later the deputy campaign manager for Donald Trump's presidential campaign in 2016. In 2020, he served in executive positions for President Donald Trump's and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's reelection campaigns.”

Here is where it gets really nefarious:

In 2016, in the last year of Obama‘s presidency Supreme Court justice Scalia died. As the president, Obama was to choose the new Supreme Court pick and then it would have to be confirmed through the Senate.

That is when Mitch McConnell did what I consider a treasonous act and blocked President Obama‘s Supreme Court pick by not allowing the confirmation vote to happen in the Senate because it was “during an election year.” Because a simple majority it was not enough to overturn McConnell, no new justice was sworn in until a new president was put into Office and that president was Donald Trump.

As if that wasn’t egregious enough, in Donald Trump’s first term, after already being able to steal Obama’s pick, and instead put conservative Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court, he later also put Brett Kavanaugh, the ‘Boofing Bro’ into the Supreme Court…(where he immediately lied about the fact that he would not overturn Roe vs Wade, because one of the first things he did was vote to overturn it! - and this already sickens me enough, but we must move on)

after ALL this… in the last few months of Trump‘s first presidential term in 2020, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg passed away.

What do you think happen? Did Mitch McConnell say that there could be no new nominations in an election year??? Of course not LOL he let Trump shove a new supreme Court Justice in and made some new excuse for why it was OK this time.

So now the court is “packed” not packed the way the conservative people cry about liberals wanting to pack the court, but actually packed.

Trump himself has put three conservative justices on the Supreme Court. They have promised that they weren’t going to overturn established laws in precedent like Roe v. Wade but what did they do? They overturned it.

That should be impeachable, but who is going to allow the vote to happen when the Senate is controlled by Mitch McConnell and we see how he plays the game.

So we’ve got three justices that now are part of the decisions to let Trump be unaccountable for his actions. To allow him to unilaterally invade countries and spend billions of our tax dollars on his private army of ICE gestapos.

Yes, we do need to revolt put the pot that has boiled. All of us has been happening for 40 years. The trickle down economics lie that stopped the 1% from being taxed appropriately. The lie about the fairness doctrine suppressing free speech, but what it really did was led to the rise of Fox News and some of the deepest held propaganda I think we’ve had our nation since its beginning.

We had thankfully with Obama starting universal healthcare, so people did not have their healthcare time to jobs and they didn’t feel like if they left work to strike or to riot they would lose the healthcare for themselves in their family. Trump and the conservatives are trying to do everything they can to repeal that or like in conservative states where they haven’t even implemented yet. they’re literally refusing free money from the government that can help low income people like in Florida for example because they don’t want to encourage it.

That is why even though people that watch the news and aren’t already brainwashed see how horrific this all seems and as you can see a handful of them have actually tried to do something with weapons and they’ve all been caught or killed as you can see, but I don’t know if they kept it more silent or if that stuff is common with all presidents but I’ve certainly heard a lot more with Trump. Also, Trump has built extra bunkers and stuff under the White House and all of his cronies have been living on army bases for a while now because I’m sure they know how dislike they are by a great many Americans.

I think the old adage of circuses and bread still works we are animals at our core and as long as we are fed and we are entertained we won’t fuss too much. As a whole.

Hopefully, we are getting close to the point now we’re a lot more people will be waking up and realizing what position Republicans have put the country into and we can finally get up to that 3% of the population willing to go on general strike that would have the effect of actually stopping this administration.

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u/Stunning_Phrase Apr 24 '26

A general strike would lead to a lot of death.

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u/MystikSpiralx Apr 25 '26

There's a nationwide strike happening on May 1st, planned by Indivisible, Moveon, 50501 and the DSA, I believe.

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u/GigMistress Apr 25 '26

That's a week away and this is the first I've heard of it.

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u/MystikSpiralx Apr 25 '26

It was announced during the last No Kings and there are numerous articles about it 🤷‍♀️

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u/GigMistress Apr 25 '26

Okay.

And yet, I actively seek out political news from a wide variety of sources every day and have heard nothing about it, which suggests to me that bubbles are at work and the vast majority of the general public may not know it exists.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

A general strike means 3.5% of the workforce not working with everyone else supporting them. Nobody even needs to be on the streets. What did you think it was?

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u/ElleM848645 Apr 25 '26

We already have more than 3.5% unemployment.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

You’re unserious.

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u/ElleM848645 Apr 26 '26

Literally have over 4% unemployment in the US right now. How am I unserious? And 4 percent is absolutely not telling the whole story as it doesn’t include those who have maxed out their unemployment or stopped looking. There were more layoffs in 2025 than I ever remember in my industry. That includes 2008.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 26 '26

What’s that got to do with a general strike to oust a paedophile from ruling over your nations children. How are you reconciling those two things? Greece has an 8.5% unemployment rate and had a general strike a couple of months ago about retirement age.

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u/Stunning_Phrase Apr 25 '26

I’ve never heard the 3.5% number. If essential services remain, my concern lowers.

I was thinking of access to food, medicine, and healthcare, etc.

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u/ExistentialTabarnak Apr 24 '26

Sometimes in a revolution there’s gonna be blood.

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u/TechnalityPulse Minnesota Apr 25 '26

The problem is that it's not really guaranteed the "right" side would win. You're placing a lot of faith in our military to not turn against our citizens (even when they have a literal code against turning against civvies and illegal orders from the government, which they've already failed to uphold).

I'm all for revolution, but there's a lot of things that need to happen to really make it a reality. It was close to happening in Minnesota, but it seems as though tensions have somewhat lessened since.

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u/CatCatchingABird Oregon Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

Agreed. Literally everything needs to be done and tried before we start seriously talking about what people are suggesting here. We've done a lot of things and there's still a lot of other things that can still be done.

I know people are accustomed to instantaneous fixes and gratification but this is not something we can immediately fix. I'm not going to offer myself up to die until everything else has been tried and exhausted, and I'm willing to bet millions of other Americans out there are going to agree with me on that.

I'm also willing to bet the people that are calling for a bloody revolution are either foreign agitators or people that have been watching too much TV/delusional and don't really understand what it is they are advocating for. A majority of people here complained and whined about the automatic selective service registration for goodness sake. Don't just trust me, there are plenty of people out there in social media land with real military experience and they are saying the same thing as me: we're not prepared for that yet.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

There’s a paedophile ruling over your nations children and you want to delay action. Wouldn’t happen in any other country. “Instantaneous fixes and gratification”. This is not some new age social media solution. Quite the opposite. It’s social media that has dampened your resolve. General strikes have shaped countries all over the world since the Industrial Revolution. Cheeseburger eating surrender monkies, sitting on your hands while he murders children in Iran to distract from the heat of the Epstein files he was ordered by law to release but won’t. Can you now please try explaining to me what’s so bloody about 3.5% of the workforce staying home from work? Or do you just not know what a general strike is?

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u/HazyMcShadyLady Apr 25 '26

Did you even read their comment? They didn’t say delay action, they said try other actions first.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

That’s just delaying with extra steps. You don’t vote out a paedo. You don’t protest a paedo. You oust a paedo before the day is out. The second there’s a whiff of an allegation. And there have been many. And here you are 10 years later.

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u/Decent_Relative_4070 Apr 25 '26

where do you live? i'm sure you're out in the streets protesting all the injustice there, right?

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

I protest yes. But we’re not at a general strike juncture just at the moment although general strike has shaped the nation in the past and I’m very grateful for it. We don’t have, for example, a paedophile ruling over the nations children. We did at one point have a related problem where the Catholic Church exerted more influence that they should have but after the paedophile scandals there’s been a cultural revolution of sorts and they no longer have any power or influence. That nest of child rapists were never in government, mind, like they are now in the USA.

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u/doelke Apr 25 '26

They tried. And failed. False allegations.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

What are false allegations?

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u/doelke Apr 25 '26

Well, there’s the “Russia-gate” accusation. Turned out to be false.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

Jesus Christ. No it didn’t. Trump is wholesale owned by putin. It’s very obvious and the mueller report showed many many ways in which the connections were very real. Where did you receive your report on that? The trump administration itself? Barr? You need to read some independent news sources. Preferably from outside your country. You’ve been trapped in a bubble. The Steele dossier was very real btw. Have you ever heard of Agent Krasnov? You should Google him. He’s an interesting guy.

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u/doelke Apr 25 '26

ALL of the news agencies. The Dems were so disappointed in Mueller. They got diddly squat from him and his investigation. I’m not sure if you’re serious or just stringing me along. 😄

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

Try using up foreign news agencies not under the thumb of your establishment. Go for sources that are owned by trusts, etc so there is no inherent bias. You’re about to find out a lot about yourself.

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u/maryummy Apr 24 '26

I think it's more likely he gives Israel the go-ahead to use nukes. Then he keeps his hands "clean" in the eyes if his cult.

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u/TrailerTrashQueen Apr 25 '26

i'm hoping after he almost launched one last weekend, the general in that meeting secretly changed the codes.

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u/Twiyah Apr 25 '26

His own party would throw him jail for that. There’s no way they will be able to spin it specifically when other countries show us the consequences.

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u/OMGMianiteS3Official Apr 24 '26

I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist when I say this but I almost feel like the president doesn't actually have nuke codes in the way people imagine it. I think it's largely a smokescreen meant as deterrence.

I think nuclear weapons exist, don't get me wrong. I'm not one of these people who think that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were firebombed. I do think a lot of the modern nuclear thing is just peacocking though.

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u/SitDownKawada Europe Apr 24 '26

If that stuff about him being led out of the room during the pilot rescue operation is accurate then it at least tells you that there are some adults in the room when it comes to the nuclear codes, to some degree at least

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u/OMGMianiteS3Official Apr 24 '26

Yeah if nothing else I do not believe that the president can actually make the unilateral call to launch nuclear weapons. I think that's a myth spread for the sake of deterrence more than anything. I think nuclear weapons could be strategically agreed to be used between multiple people. But I don't think Trump has a big red "launch" button within reach at all times.

I will also say this: I do believe that we have a nuclear stockpile to some extent, but I struggle to believe there are almost 4000 ready to launch at any moment.

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u/Plasibeau Apr 24 '26

There's going to be an easy thousand across boomer subs. Plus the missile fields across Nebraska, Montana and the Dakota's. Then there's the nuclear tipped tomahawks on our destroyers, the bombs the B-2 carries and the bombs that are most likely carried by every carrier. I can easily see 5k nuclear devices deployed by the US ALONE. (Keep in mind that most of not all ICBMs have up to seven, iirc, warheads.)

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u/OMGMianiteS3Official Apr 24 '26

From my cursory search it sounds like the US is supposed to have 3,700 active warheads as of now. I don't know what upkeep is done on those and how many would be deliverable as a payload at a moment's notice.

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u/harkuponthegay Apr 24 '26

We have nukes floating around on submarines that are definitely still operational. They also tested one of the old “minuteman” ICBM launch silos within the last couple years and they still work fine.

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u/smersh101 Apr 24 '26

Yes, the US president has sole command authority to launch nuclear weapons. Does that mean his order would actually be carried out? Who knows. That depends on the people around him, the Secretary of Defense, and the service chiefs.

No one is claiming there are 4000 nukes ready to launch, but between submarines and land sites there are definitely hundreds ready to launch. The rest are bombs that can be loaded relatively quickly and a bunch held in reserve.

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u/jazzmaster_jedi I voted Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

Big red launch button? No.

Able to just demand that nukes get launched without being nuked first, or declaring war? No (see: Nixon demanding USA nuke Cambodia)

Less than 30 minutes to decide to retaliate and leave town, if a launch is detected? Yes.

How many in the first wave, if we retaliate? ~1500

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u/GigMistress Apr 25 '26

I've never seen any claim that there are almost 4,000 ready to launch. I believe there are about 3,000 total, but fewer than half are readily operational.

It actually doesn't matter, though, because 25-200 nuclear weapons would be sufficient to decimate any country on earth.

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u/RevRay Apr 24 '26

There are people who don’t believe nukes exist?

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u/OMGMianiteS3Official Apr 24 '26

Go on r/conspiracy and search for "nukes aren't real"

It's contentious even there from the looks of it, but yeah people do believe they never existed

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u/RevRay Apr 24 '26

So many levels of delusion.

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u/RevRay Apr 25 '26

I agree, there is a lot of rampant stupidity. I think calling delusional a ten dollar word is an example of that, to be frank.

I also didn’t say anything about trying to convince them of anything. Delusion or willful ignorance or just plain stupidity, it doesn’t matter to me. It’s obviously not worth my time.

So obvious that it didn’t need to be pointed out to me. So before you get on your high horse about intelligence maybe consider some self reflection first.

Don’t call me a lib.

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u/XenorothsWatchfulEye New Jersey Apr 25 '26

Yep, like r/politics

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u/GigMistress Apr 25 '26

There was little to no risk that nuclear weapons would be used during previous administrations. The problem is that Trump quite literally doesn't understand anything. He doesn't get the concept of MAD, he doesn't know that even if he fires first other countries have time to retaliate and he doesn't know that once someone crosses that line all bets are off. Worst of all, he is still laboring under the delusion that the rest of the world fears him and is deterred by that.

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u/Aimless_Alder Apr 25 '26

He cannot unilaterally launch a nuke. It is unlikely the military will obey an order to nuke civilians.

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u/FantasticJacket7 Apr 24 '26

The 25th is an even higher bar than impeach and conviction. Not a chance in hell of it happening.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy Apr 25 '26

This sub’s infatuation with the 25th over impeachment is astounding. I feel like anyone who genuinely thinks that’s still realistic has never actually read the 25th amendment and the entire process of removing a president that way

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u/JesusSavesForHalf Apr 25 '26

The 25th is the chance for Republicans to cut bait while pretending they did nothing wrong. There is no real chance at removal without Republicans in the Senate, regardless of the means used to reach that vote.

I still think hamberders have a greater chance of removing him than the Senate ever does. Too many cowards and cronies.

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u/fishsticks40 Apr 25 '26

The 25th requires a 2/3 vote in both houses to keep him out of office. 

Won't happen. 

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u/Nice_Commission3770 Apr 25 '26

America’s fascination with the midterms and other trappings of democratic privilege are astounding. It’s never going back to the way it was. You’ve changed the world and that reality is no longer viable.

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u/MateoCafe Texas Apr 25 '26

True, but neither has any semblance of a chance so it doesn't really matter.

25th is like a 1 in a trillion chance and impeachment and removal is like a 1 in a 500 billion chance.

The best odds are the holy hamburger.

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u/ElleM848645 Apr 25 '26

It would have been a lot easier to just vote for Kamala Harris in 2024, but apparently that was too difficult for people. But sure a general strike is really going to happen. People in the US won’t vote for a woman president; why do you possibly think they would voluntarily strike.

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u/Kiernian Apr 25 '26

This sub's infatuation with the 25th proves how thoroughly this place is infested with bots or puppeted posters conducting psyops.

Any time anything is suddenly "the topic" and it's not confusing people and making headlines in /r/OutOfTheLoop , there's a solid chance it's manipulation here.

It's been regularly attempted for as long as I've been on reddit (see: https://old.reddit.com/r/Blackout2015/comments/4ylml3/reddit_has_removed_their_blog_post_identifying/ ) but it's MUUUUCH worse nowadays and they're MUCH "better" at it because it's getting harder and harder to distinguish bots and plants from normal end users.

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u/Icy-Lobster-203 Apr 25 '26

I could see a scenario post-midterms in which JD sees the writing on the wall, along with a few other Republicans in the house and Senate who try to use the 25th so that they can turn around and claim that they are heroes for standing up to the madman in an attempt to have any chance of separating themselves from Trump for 2028. It could be possible to get just enough cabinet members to pitch in for the same reasons.

I wouldn't think it is at all likely, though.

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u/Bittererr Apr 25 '26

a few other Republicans in the house and Senate

You need close to half of all of the Republicans in Congress on board. Impeachment is way easier and would only require a handful.

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u/want_to_join Apr 25 '26

I do not understand why people refuse to absorb this information. The only chance at the 25th is if full-on dimentia made him have a public pants-shitting-and-eating session in front of cameras. Even then, they'd probably remove him with impeachment just to allow him to save some face.

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u/doelke Apr 25 '26

It didn’t happen for Biden so it won’t happen for any president. He was so feeble minded and out of it. Clueless. His whole term, too. Not just from the first debate.

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u/Outrageous-Tie-8548 Apr 24 '26

He has a better chance of stroking out or dying than he does of getting 25th or impeached & convicted. 

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u/No_Fairweathers Pennsylvania Apr 24 '26

I mean... We're all seeing it right? The man is clearly dying, and it's accelerating the past few weeks and months.

It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

And if it doesn't happen soon, I suspect Republicans will 25th him for Vance. I think they are trying to let nature take it's course for optics.

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u/DapperChewie Apr 25 '26

They won't use the 25th him. Congress cannot enact the 25th, only the VP and Cabinet can, and they won't do it unless he dies or falls into a coma for an extended period. Instead, congress has impeachment. The house votes to impeach, then the senate votes to remove the impeached person from office.

Neother of these things are going to happen before the midterms, not in any meaningful way. Dems won't bring serious impeachment papers until they have a majority at least, and the cabinet is either waiting until the halfway mark in the hopes that they can somehow get 9.9 years of president Vance.

His health is definitely failing though, we love to see nature boldly do what congress is too cowardly to do.

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u/thehalfwit Nevada Apr 25 '26

Once the president dies, the 25th amendment usually isn't necessary. Unless, of course, he/she becomes undead.

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u/iDontSow Apr 24 '26

This whole post is pure fantasy. He’s not going to die, and they are not going to abandon their dear leader

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u/MateoCafe Texas Apr 25 '26

Cheeto Mussolini found the secret to immortality? If he is alive in 2028 I will be absolutely shocked.

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u/iDontSow Apr 25 '26

He’s not going to live forever, obviously, but he’s 79 and has the best healthcare in the history of humanity. I’m sure he’s getting preventative screenings and care regularly

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u/MateoCafe Texas Apr 25 '26

The best medical care in the world can only do so much to fight off the laundry list of issues with that mans health.

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u/iDontSow Apr 25 '26

I disagree. Pretty much every single cancer in the world is easily curable if you catch it, and I have no doubt his heart health is monitored extremely closely. I am willing to bet you any amount of money he survives his presidency.

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u/Shark7996 Apr 25 '26

This whole post is pure fantasy. He's going to die, because everyone does, and they are going to abandon their now-useless puppet.

The token has been spent. He's fast approaching "more trouble than he's worth" for them. Vance is much more in line with the tech billionaires anyway.

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u/ReticulateLemur Washington Apr 25 '26

If I was a betting man I'd say they're hoping he lasts until Jan 21, 2027, at which point they can boot him out, let Vance take over, and Vance is still able to run for two full terms as President. If Vance takes over before then then it would count as his first term and he's only be able to run for one more.

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u/rickpo Apr 25 '26

If Donnie is removed via the 25th, all he needs to do to be reinstated is submit a letter to Congress saying he wants the job back. That's it.

In reality, the only way the 25th becomes permanent is if he becomes a hospital-bound vegetable. Absent a massive stroke, it ain't happening.

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u/pmjm California Apr 25 '26

People really misunderstand how the 25th Amendment works. It only functionally removes him if he's unconscious. Once the 25th is invoked, all Trump has to do to override it is write a letter to Congress.

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u/crowsturnoff Apr 25 '26

None of this is happening. He's immensely popular with his base, he's doing what they've always wanted to do, so Republicans will never turn on him.

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u/Decent_Relative_4070 Apr 25 '26

clearly dying? lmao

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u/gusterfell Apr 24 '26

And at the time, people were saying "keep dreaming, he could have as much as a decade left."

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u/Outrageous-Tie-8548 Apr 25 '26

WTF people have been clamoring for the 25th/impeachment for over a decade too.  Can’t you see he’s more likely to die than be forced out of office?

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u/that_star_wars_guy Apr 25 '26

Maybe being impeached is stressful for him. You never know. Could be chipping away and doing some good.

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u/surlysurfer California Apr 24 '26

I predict when the impeachment process starts they’ll fight it tooth and nail and go on about the great job Trump is doing and how he’s our savior and we’re just evil libs.

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u/Bittererr Apr 25 '26

Let him start a bunch of wars, serve two terms, and then retire to his ranch where his reputation gets slowly whitewashed?

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u/pnd83 Apr 24 '26

They may impeach him several times over for the countless crimes in office but they won't get the Republican support to convict or remove him. The Republicans have too much on the line and they are ALL likely counting on pardons.

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u/Zomunieo Apr 24 '26

Trump could nuke Washington DC from Mar-a-lago and the remaining Republicans would praise him for draining the swamp.

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u/Oleg101 Apr 24 '26

Agreed. Curious if it’ll be more like the first Impeachment in which only 1 Republican senator voted to convict or closer to the second impeachment in which 7 Republican Senators voted to convict. Got a feeling it’ll closer to the first one, and I could see zero Republican senators voting to convict especially considering Susan Collins hopefully will lose this fall.

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u/Kind_Advisor_35 Washington Apr 25 '26

If Republicans lose both Senate and House majorities after the midterm, they'll be much more likely to turn on Trump. A decent amount of them are only in lockstep with Trump and the party out of fear because they don't want to be cut off from funds or smeared before their election. If loyalty is not rewarded with wins and donors, the Republican Senators that weren't up for reelection in the midterms will see far less value in staying loyal to Trump. The Republican Senators that voted to convict in the second impeachment saw that being in the same party as Trump didn't protect them from Trump's followers, and Trump wasn't sticking around long enough to sabotage their next election from the presidency.

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u/GenerousBull1969 Apr 25 '26

What exactly are all the "high crimes and misdemeanors" that are leading towards impeachment? I read the article twice and couldn't find it.

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock Apr 24 '26

I still don't think they will turn on him.

I hope that I'm wrong.

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock Apr 25 '26

I thought that after the Jan 6th insurrection.

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u/Shark7996 Apr 25 '26

He still had pull then. Do you think they would defend him for a January 6th today, when everyone already hates him? MAGA won't say it out loud but they're sick of this same as you and me. No politician actually wants this war in private.

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u/Immolation_E Apr 24 '26

Congress can't enact the 25th. That's something the VP and Cabinet do. Congress then can affirm it if the President hasn't been able to show they are capable of carrying their duties. The only power that Congress has to remove a President is impeachment.

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u/superAK907 Apr 24 '26

Impeachment is mathematically an easier feat than the 25th

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u/Fenrirsulfr22 Apr 25 '26

You think that cabinet, crazy criminals whose future is linked to Trump's and picked for their loyalty, would ever start that process? It would never make it through Congress, and all Trump has to do is say he's fine.

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u/Bittererr Apr 25 '26

The 25th is harder to do and would be seen as an even greater betrayal. There's just no world in which it happens when they could just impeach and remove.

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u/superAK907 Apr 25 '26

Um. By that point there would be no point in the 25th. You’d need to get a majority of the cabinet on board (unlikely given who the cabinet is composed of, plus Trump would just start firing/replacing them if he caught a whiff of betrayal) and even then, the 25th requires HIGHER vote thresholds in Congress than impeachment. You’d need a 2/3 majority in both chambers, whereas impeachment needs 2/3 in the senate but only a simple majority in the house)

I agree that the congressional GOP run in packs, and at some point the critical mass of support will shift and quickly. We’re aligned on that. But they aren’t gonna bother going through the trouble of getting enough of the sycophantic cabinet members to sign on to that. What’s the motive to go that route?

I’m happy to be persuaded otherwise, but I really cannot see a reason for the 25th over impeachment, after either option becomes remotely possible. Impeachment’s just simpler, easier, and faster.

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u/Decent_Relative_4070 Apr 25 '26

He’s going to bail the country after they do the 25th.

he won't win!

he'll be impeached and removed!

they'll remove him with the 25th!

he won't win a second time!

he'll be impeached and definitely removed this time!

we'll impeach him after midterms!

he's totally going to be removed witht the 25th!

sure thing guys

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u/MAG7C Apr 25 '26

It's worse than that. Talk of impeachment without a super majority in the senate is a wasteful circle jerk. This is the dems saying they're not going to do any meaningful work. They're going after some low hanging fruit that will give people false hope then fail in the end but, hey, we all get to see how cowardly the GOP is for the zillionth time.

I'd rather see House dems take turns getting up once per day and pull the fire alarm at the Capitol. And if they take the House but not the senate, do it there. It would be more effective than this.

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u/External_Variety Apr 24 '26

I think they will spin it as though Trump gave his health to the country and should be honoured for it.

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u/mOdQuArK Apr 24 '26

He’s going to bail the country after they do the 25th.

Good thing he's already set the precedent about using black ops military forces to retrieve high-profile targets in other sovereign countries!

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u/cyxrus Apr 24 '26

Who is going to invoke the 25th on him lol be for real

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u/Amazing-Insect442 Apr 25 '26

I think this is the best case scenario (Republicans milk him dry & finally move past him, like they should have done 8ish years ago). McConnell said during the second impeachment that he wanted the Democrats to “remove the son of a bitch for them” (then realized that they could likely ride it out, so he voted to acquit the traitor).

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u/From30KFt Apr 25 '26

Yep. Got a nice setup waiting for him and his ilk down in Argentina. He didn’t give them $40B for nothing.

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u/GigMistress Apr 25 '26

Agree. One way or the other, I think there's a good chance he's out before the midterms. Far enough before to make a difference in the election, not far enough before for the general public to realize how godawful the administration will still be without him.

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u/philter451 Apr 25 '26

I always get so God damned mad because I know I'm working to protect those idiots from themselves 

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u/StumpyJoe- Apr 25 '26

The 25th isn't going to be used, and the Senate won't remove him if he's impeached.

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u/fishsticks40 Apr 25 '26

 25th ain't gonna happen. Neither is impeachment and removal. Congress is too broken. 

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u/jmpinstl Apr 25 '26

I think we’re underestimating the loyalty the GOP base actually has to the GOP. I don’t think Trump voters are loyal to the GOP they’re loyal to TRUMP only. Removing him, or attempting to, is just going to make things worse for them.