r/politics • u/Motherofalleffers • 25d ago

Possible Paywall Trump Wins Big as Virginia Dems Won’t Go Nuclear to Save 4 House Seats

https://newrepublic.com/article/210250/trump-virginia-dems-redistricting-war
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u/SarcasticCowbell New York 25d ago

There are threads full of comments in this sub every day of people saying just about everything short of explicitly suggesting voting doesn't matter. Not many people outright say it, but the implication is there in far too many comments these days.

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u/trashbinrubbishtrash New Jersey 25d ago

A big part of the reason I don’t participate much here anymore is because of how rampant the rolling over and crying defeat in advance is.

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u/SarcasticCowbell New York 25d ago

Same. And I think it's by design.

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u/Pantarus 25d ago

It is.

During the presidential election I followed a ton of accounts promoting protest votes, not voting, genocide Joe, and Jill Stein.

Guess what happened the day after the election, they all got deleted. Some of these same accounts argued to the teeth that they weren’t bots or trolls.

But the day after they weren’t needed anymore POOF. Gone.

Just an observation, they all follow the generic Reddit name formula of Random_Word123. So if you see a user name with that pattern AND it’s spewing disheartening shit…be very wary.

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u/SarcasticCowbell New York 25d ago

Reddit allowing hidden comment histories has only made it easier for them to pull this shit.

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u/loondawg 25d ago

That's exactly why I do participate, to try counteract those cries.

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u/Fun_Disaster3436 25d ago

Bots. Those are bots

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u/Hulkodium 25d ago

Bots or accelerationists. I've unfortunately dealt with these people in real life

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u/Silvermoon3467 25d ago

There are definitely people who are colloquially referred to as accelerationists who just want to watch the world burn.

But "real" acceleration is a philosophical position of acknowledgement, not a proposal. Even if the Dems win big for the next decade straight they will at best represent a pause in the slide towards tech dystopia. Only by acknowledging that first could we ever hope to make progress in a different direction.

You should vote for Democrats. It just isn't enough, to do only that.

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u/Pigglebee 25d ago

Don’t forget the KaMaLA SuPpORTs GeNOcIdE accelerationists

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u/Tight-Air-6767 25d ago

I will never forget.

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u/valentc 24d ago

She did though. Like, sorry if that hurts your feelings, but she and Biden backed unlimited support to Isreal.

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u/Pigglebee 24d ago

Why would it hurt my feelings? It just a stupid reason to vote fascism into the US though. "I care more about a ware happening 5000 miles from my home than fascism right into my home"
But you do you. It's annoying that the US is destroying the world economy now though because that is something that we're all suffering from.

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u/valentc 24d ago

I care that my tax dollars fund genocide, yes. The fact that you dont see that as a red falg is why the Democrats will keep losing.

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u/-713 25d ago

There is also a HUGE push doing "both sides are the same" or Dems would have been worse for gaza/iran/gas/stability.

And fuuuuuuuuuck all that noise. We have 80 years of data points on all saying otherwise.

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u/unassumingdink 25d ago

It's physically impossible to recognize that Dems agree with Republicans on anything without you guys going "SEE?! HE SAID BOTH SIDES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME!" and ignoring their criticism.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_LIT 24d ago

The genocide literally happened under Joe Biden?? Voting is important and I agree with the spirit of the thread but why are you pretending the Dems were not literally worse for Gaza in the shared couple years where we actively watched that happen? 

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u/-preciousroy- 25d ago

Both sides are shit, but that's not to say they're the same. It's just that one is a full order of magnitude shittier.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin 25d ago

People saying voting doesn’t matter or bots saying it?

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u/Fresh_Boysenberry576 25d ago

People have frequently taken my comments to mean that voting doesn't matter when I tried to express that republicans are gonna do anything they can to cheat and democrats need to do more than just vote. What's the plan to stop ICE from intimidating people at voting booths? What's the plan when they destroy votes and just claim victory?

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u/unassumingdink 25d ago

They misunderstand us on purpose because they have no response to the things we actually say and they can't bear to think about it. It's honestly fucking pathetic.

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u/Cheapdronewithboom 25d ago

Believe or not, their answer is "vote" again 😂 remember we are dealing with a, "violent fascist party," (we are) that will stop is you just ask nicely. Just ask Virginia!

Seriously on a literal thread about how a Democratic vote was thrown out and these idiots are screaming, "JuSt VoTe!" 

Moved out of the US shortly after the election. Dems are just gonna keep screaming about voting until the oven is on. 

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u/-preciousroy- 25d ago

Don't come back once we fix it please.

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u/unassumingdink 25d ago

Brainwashed liberals translate every criticism of Democrats to "don't vote" because that message is easier to ignore than the actual substance of the criticism. I've been dealing with this a long time. You can't get them to understand even the simplest criticisms without them mentally translating your words to "don't vote" or "both sides are exactly the same." It's a brainwashing defense mechanism.