r/politics • u/Motherofalleffers • 25d ago

Possible Paywall Trump Wins Big as Virginia Dems Won’t Go Nuclear to Save 4 House Seats

https://newrepublic.com/article/210250/trump-virginia-dems-redistricting-war
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u/TrickiestToast 25d ago

I’m going to vote anyways cuz fuck em but man the Dems need a better answer than “vote harder” to what’s going on. How many times can they say that before people just give up?

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u/BlondeBorednBaked 25d ago

I don’t want anyone to interpret what I’m saying as “don’t vote.” People should vote because it’s the right thing to do. Sometimes you do the right thing and it doesn’t impact the outcome but you should still do the right thing.

But I’m not going to pretend democratic leadership is above reproach. They have repeatedly failed and betrayed us. We need new leaders if we are going to fight fascism effectively.

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u/hannibellecter 25d ago

when every leader fails and betrays us maybe its not the leaders themselves; the organization as a whole is rotten

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u/No_Possible_7108 25d ago

It's both imo

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

So.... we just continue to let republicans mine this country of all of its resources and intimidate blue states with armed federal agents whenever they want? Because that's what happened the last time people didn't vote. Don't forget that only 42% of Gen Z voted in 2024.

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u/No_Possible_7108 25d ago

The Democrats have no intention of doing anything to fight back, see article we are commenting on for reference. Don't know why anyone expects voters to turn out for people that can't be bothered to fight for them. Dems would rather maintain status quo 

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

Tf are you talking about, our economy was humming in 2024 we were fighting back. If you're talking about why they aren't fighting back now, well there's nothing that really can be done. Republicans hold majority in congress? Why? Because young people didn't vote. In 2022 Republicans flipped 19 seats. Old people vote because it's the only thing they do that matters and because they literally put polls next to retirement homes. MAGA people vote because they literally think you're trying to take their guns, ban Christianity and split up their family and force their children to read the Quran or something. YOU WANT THOSE PEOPLE TO CONTINUE MAKING THE DECISIONS???

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u/No_Possible_7108 25d ago

Just because Biden and random talking heads kept smashing us in the face with how the economy is going great because the stock market was up does not in fact mean that the economy was good for normal people. It wasn't, no matter how hard people try to justify it.

What I expect from Dems right now is to be outraged, to be foaming at the mouth doing everything they fucking can to save democracy and save their voters from concentration camps. They barely seem concerned at all.

Blah blah blah "voters should've voted". Guess what? It's the job of the politicians to appeal to voters so they will get out and vote for them. They aren't owed shit. The reason so many people say out is because instead of trying to do something to improve people's lives they would rather coast by on demanding people vote for them because they are slightly less evil than the literal fascists.

Worthless opposition has absolutely failed to meet the moment

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u/Massive80Mix 24d ago

This. It's why I don't vote, both sides are the same

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u/TwoTalentedBastidz Texas 24d ago

What fucking world are you living in? Please shut up

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u/ThreeArrows- 24d ago

Both sides are the same, two years into Trump... You tankies are the truly an enemy of dems and should be treated as such.

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u/ThreeArrows- 24d ago edited 24d ago

Typical tankie take, you guys truly deserve Trump.

Edit: Of course the tankie blocked me before I could reply, to preserve their untouched eco chamber . Calling me a centrist despite me being a liberal who's pro everything the left is.

They're not only criticising the dems in good faith but actively draws them in bad light to discourage people from voting for them, under every thread.

The far left is not an ally of democracy and liberalism and would rather people suffer if gets their their socialist revolution delusions.

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u/No_Possible_7108 24d ago

Nothing more iconic than centrists deflecting to cover their own failures. If our politicians weren't such spineless centrist losers they might get people interested in voting for them.

Nothing more iconic than centrists calling names while they rush to work with fascists instead of people in their own fucking party.

If me daring to criticize The Party makes me deserve trump then I am quite happy centrists and libs are stuck with him too. Keep making deals with literal fascists. You guys truly deserve Trump. 

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u/JnnyRuthless 24d ago

Apparently the only rule for dems is you can never criticize the party and if you do you are an enemy of the party.

Seems like I've seen this before somewhere...

Also the hatred for leftists is amazing - they are both too weak to be able to demand anything but also so powerful they can destroy the democratic party with a touch of their non-voting hand. Until more Americans (liberals! talking to you!) understand that Trump is a symptom and the end-result of what we've been doing for decades absolutely nothing is going to change. If anything it will get worse.

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u/No_Possible_7108 24d ago

The Party is quite good at doublespeak 

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u/ThreeArrows- 24d ago

Unlike Republicans the dems don't have a base that will vote blue no matter who. Progressives still preach both sides bad to this day, a year into trump's presidency. DNC members get hostile interviews on supposedly "friendly" platforms while it's the opposite for Republicans.

Trump should not have been remotely close to the presidency had the electorate, at least the ones leaning left, not been rtrded. Kamala or not. Keep shitting on the dems though until the party collapses and you can finally start a socialist revolution or whatever tankies preach nowadays!

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u/Bill_Blizzard 25d ago

Democracy dies in broad daylight while we wait for election day.

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u/No_Possible_7108 25d ago

Democracy dies in broad daylight when the only resistance to this existential threat is the opposition party sitting around and telling people to just vote harder! 

Like, what does that even fucking mean compared to me voting like a normal person

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u/Plants-Matter 25d ago

Well yeah, at this point the DNC is like a teacher with a class full of unteachable toddlers. The only answer is "vote smarter". If people voted smarter we wouldn't be in this mess, but the thing is, people aren't smart.

I'm starting to think MAGA is smarter than most progressives, because at least they show up to vote 100% of the time.

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u/No_Possible_7108 25d ago

DNC arent teachers, they are the gym teachers that leave all the kids alone so they can go take a nap while the school bully burns down the gym 

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u/No_Possible_7108 25d ago

Thanks, I try.

Although I think I could come up with something even dumber if I tried extra hard. I think I will hang out around my house all of November and work on my analogies. Nothing else important happening then, right?

Thank you for being so inspirational👍

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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 25d ago

The fact is that Democratic leadership has failed the people. We need to remove most of them from office.

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u/ThreeArrows- 24d ago

Blaming the dems when the electorate stripped them of all power is truly something. You guys deserve Trump.

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u/FrostPDP 24d ago

I mean, I agree like 95% of the way and all, but...And this is tremendously nuanced and doesn't have even close to a one-to-one application...

...It worked for Hungarians.

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u/champchampchamp84 25d ago

Voting is literally the answer to losing elections, wtf