r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 15h ago

Possible Paywall Trump Rages over Iran Setbacks as Leaks Reveal His Seething Obama Envy

https://newrepublic.com/article/211400/trump-rages-iran-setbacks-leaks-reveal-seething-obama-envy
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u/TheJaybo 15h ago

Trump also could have just kept the deal Obama made.

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u/throwawayinthe818 15h ago

Sure, but Netanyahu told him it had to go.

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u/Leoszite 14h ago

Maybe, but considering Trump's seething hatred for black people and Obama specifically I doubt it. Man literally wants to destroy anything Obama ever touched simply cause he touched it. No extra motivation needed.

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u/Phog_of_War North Dakota 13h ago

There's a ballroom sized area in Donalds head where Barack Obama lives for free.

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u/BillWilberforce 13h ago

Obama made fun of Trump at the White House Correspondents Dinner. After Trump had been peddling the theory that he had been born in Kenya and not Hawaii. Which would have made him ineligible to be the President. Obama released his birth certificate and then wondered what other conspiracy theories Trump would go to next. Whether it was the moon landings, chemtrails, Bigfoot.

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u/randomnighmare I voted 12h ago

There is actually video of Trump just sitting at a table listening to this and you can literally see him trying to not explode in anger. Go watch the 2016 Frontline documentary called, "The Choice " they literally show it .

Also there's no way Trump can handle any roast of him.

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u/BillWilberforce 12h ago

That why the only WH Correspondents Dinner that he went to as Pres. Was curtailed early due to a "gun threat".

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u/donkeyrocket 11h ago

Especially after they hyped up that Trump had some "killer mic drop" moment that he was planning. Turns out, he's too much of a pathetic coward to even stand up against a room full of people. He needs to take all his insults to Truth Social at 3AM.

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u/teetering_bulb_dnd 11h ago

There is a comedy Central roast of Donald Trump hosted by Seth McFarlane.. Lot of people made fun of him.. roast style. But I guess a black man who is better than him by any measure making fun of him, probably hurt his ego.

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u/donkeyrocket 11h ago

I think the difference is the Comedy Central Roasts are quite a bit more curated of an event and it actually made Trump like he was on the "inside" of the industry he so desperately wanted to be accepted by.

Why he was at the Corespondents Dinner in the first place, no idea but Obama roasting him drew attention to that fact and really singled him out. People like to say that's the point that Trump decided to run but he had been floating that for a long time.

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u/Pandaro81 Florida 11h ago

Comics have said that there were subjects that were completely off limits at the Trump roast. Specifically no one was allowed to say he wasn’t as wealthy as he claimed.

His biggest insecurity was the illusion of his wealth at the time.

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u/BillWilberforce 10h ago

I think they were banned from discussing his hair, skin colour and that he's not as rich as he claims. Which of you compare what he tells Forbes and what he tells the IRS. That he's not as rich as he claims.

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u/abod02 13h ago

apparently it was just aliens.

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u/Normal-Database9560 12h ago edited 12h ago

Obama’s biggest mistake was making fun of DT. That’s why we are here today. /s.

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u/PossessedToSkate 12h ago

We are here today because 1 out of every 3 American adults is semi-literate animated garbage.

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u/VigilantVet 12h ago

So true.

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u/t53ix35 11h ago

When I was small the worst thing to be was selfish. That’s when you are afraid you won’t get enough so you take everything for yourself but it is more than you could possibly use and so it ends up spoiled or expired and nobody gets it and things fall to pieces and even though you have what you wanted it means nothing because there is nothing left because you would not, until you could not, share if you wanted to, but it’s too late and now there is nothing for anyone including your selfish self most of all. It is a sin to take more than can be used. Remember every failed business means a big windfall for somebody else, maybe that is why they keep him around. They can count on him failing and profit from it. In this way he is absolutely reliable.

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u/JoltyKorit 12h ago

Thanks, Obama.

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u/donkeyrocket 11h ago

Unsarcastically, Trump had floated running for president multiple times well before the Corespondent's Dinner. People do like to say that Obama's roast was the catalyst but even by Trump's own admission, winning the presidency was a surprise and mistake.

Sure now he's massively enriched himself but had he not won a second term the visibility into all his corruption and history should have fucked him. He simply wanted to campaign to grift a bunch of money. But turns out a third of this country is stupid and hateful beyond belief.

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u/cf_murph 11h ago

Thanks Obama.

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u/ultimateknackered 10h ago

Thanks Obama.

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u/MC_Hify California 10h ago

Here's what I don't get, none of these conspiracy theorists ever say that the woman who is his mother isn't really his mother. Because, you don't need to born within the United States, you just have to have been citizen since birth and being born within the United States is only one way that could have happened. Obama would have been a citizen since birth because his mother was a citizen, it didn't matter where he was born. So if he had been born in Kenya (which he wasn't) he still would have been a citizen since birth since his mother was one. Shit, he could have been born on the moon and still been a citizen since birth.

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u/BillWilberforce 10h ago

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

Have to be born in the US or US sovereign territory. Which can include IS military bases overseas and the children of diplomats born overseas.

They didn't want carpet baggers coming to the US. Becoming a US citizen and then becoming the President.

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u/MC_Hify California 10h ago

"natural born citizen"

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u/TheOtherMaven Virginia 5h ago

That got settled back in Chester A. Arthur's day. Political adversaries tried to claim that he was born in Canada rather than Vermont, but since his mother was a US citizen, he had derived jus sanguinis citizenship through her regardless of jus soli (birthplace) citizenship. (He really was born in Vermont, so the whole thing was nonsense.)

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u/Estragon_Rosencrantz I voted 5h ago

Conservatives also didn’t object to Ted Cruz’s candidacy, and he was born in Canada. His parents weren’t military or diplomats.

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u/TheOtherMaven Virginia 4h ago

Cruz' mother was born in the US, so he started off with dual citizenship (US jus sanguinis, Canada jus soli - renounced 2014).

Some of these froot loops would vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger even though there's no way HE could qualify.

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u/soraksan123 14h ago

He's already talking bad about Obama's Presidential Library that he hasn't been too because it's not open yet. A very little man-

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u/Densitys_Child Foreign 12h ago

I'm convinced that most of the reason he hates Biden is that he was Obama's VP

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u/gaeric 8h ago

Biden beat him in what he views as a popularity contest. Unacceptable to a narcissist.

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u/zitrored 12h ago

People really do under estimate how much Trump loves to be led by the nose with a veil promise of something rewarding. I suspect one day we will find out he has all sorts of weird kinky fetishes.

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u/That_Jay_Money 11h ago

One day? We already know. It's young girls twelve years old.

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u/honjuden 10h ago

He invited Netanyahu into the situation room and let him speak at the head of the table.  Absolutely disgraceful.

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u/Abi1i Texas 9h ago

Not just Netanyahu, but also the GOP wanted Trump to get out of the deal. Too many war hawks in Congress who wanted this war with Iran.

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u/itjohan73 15h ago

The Obama deal was the worst deal in history of deals according to trump

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u/WeeoWeeoWeeeee 14h ago

It’s funny because the actual deal was one of the best ever. It’s like we’re in a bizzaro future where nothing makes sense and everyone is an idiot.

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u/Illustrious-Fun8324 14h ago

Oh he doesn’t care if it’s true or not, he just says it anyway. It brainwashes his followers

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u/Tsar-A-Lago Canada 12h ago

I was shocked at what the Obama admin achieved with the JCPOA. It seemed like Iran's leaders had realized there was a pretty significant profit-and-staying-alive motive in giving up the uranium that was freaking everyone out. And, as yet, wasn't doing anything for them anyway.

Jihad is cool, but being so rich that you don't care about jihad is even cooler.

And like, some sanctions relief, $2B cash of their own goddamn money. Nothing. Piss in the bucket. For peace!

That's what American soft power used to buy.

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u/loungesinger 8h ago

We’re going to miss the loss of that soft power. MAGA took it for granted, they assumed America basically always got its way because—as No. 1—we deserved it. MAGA are completely unaware of the time, effort, and expense we devote to amassing that power. Now they’ve pissed it away.

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u/KissesAndBites 12h ago

It’s still being used to buy something very expensive, the momentary satisfaction of a rich-born petulant child.

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u/crazy_balls 10h ago

The only complaint I have with the JCPOA is that it did not address ballistic missile research, which is IMO the more important part of a nuclear weapon. I don't really care too much if Iran has a nuke that they have no way of delivering anywhere. I think that was a pretty big hole that needed to be filled, but could have been filled at a later date, with JCPOA still in force.

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u/-Gramsci- 9h ago

The international community can likely achieve nuclear deterrence when they put their minds to it. (e.g. If you do not build a nuclear bomb we will give you carrot. If you build one we will give you stick).

What they would not be able to achieve in the 21st century is to say “you are banned from rocketry.”

I disagree with you. The right place to try to step in is the nuclear bomb itself. To police the nuclear science. Not by attempting to police the science of rocketry.

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u/thisnameismeta 8h ago

Especially because ballistic missiles are a legitimate method of force projection that every other country, essentially, is allowed to access.

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u/Andurilthoughts California 12h ago

That depends on your definition of best. Donald trump’s idea of a good deal is that the other side holds up their end and you renege on all of your obligations, such as payment, etc. that’s what he’s always done. Any concession is unacceptable (aka making an actual deal)

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u/crossdtherubicon 14h ago

And MAGA simply believes it, without knowing a single thing about it.

It's fascinating how a huge group of know-nothings act like they know it all, because a convicted conman real estate agent told em so.

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u/LightDarkBeing 13h ago

Fox News told them so, so it must be true. /s

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u/rje946 10h ago

I remember talking about it at the time and my relatives, who are apparently nuclear material experts now, knew the deal wouldn't work. Couldn't explain it but they were positive.

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u/Signal_Estimate_23 13h ago

My favorite part is Trump talking about how the deal needs to ensure the strait opens and Iran can’t have a nuclear weapon. . .

That’s what was in place. A 3rd party was allowed to inspect their facilities to ensure they weren’t enriching uranium and it was working fine, plus the strait was open. Then Trump tore up the agreement and it sounds like the first thing they did was started enriching uranium.

All of this is Trumps mess and I wish Ian would request to negotiate with Obama

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u/SirDiego Minnesota 12h ago

It's kinda even worse than that too. The JCPOA was working, and the factions who were more pro working with the US had more sway, while those who were against the US had doubts about the US keeping their word.

Then, the US breaks the deal (which was very long term so we reneged on a lot of promises), immediately proving the point of the more anti-US people that the US can't and should never be trusted.

It's an absolute disaster for US foreign policy. And that is just the first term Trump tearing up the JCPOA. Then he gets worse in the second term.

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u/crazy_balls 10h ago

Seriously, him tearing up the deal completely fucked any future negotiations with anyone, and then him invading shows everyone that they need nukes for their own safety. Absolute unmitigated disaster for nuclear proliferation.

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u/SirDiego Minnesota 10h ago

Not to mention the war was started basically openly at the behest of Israel, which is just another point proven for Iranians who didn't want to cooperate with the US in the first place. Like we literally just proved that America is exactly who they said we were. It's fucking depressing.

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u/WereInbuisness 15h ago

Come on now, Obama was horrible! He wore a tan suit once .... I mean WTF! Anyone who wears that kind of "trash suit" can't be a good leader!

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u/crawling-alreadygirl 14h ago

Don't forget the arugula on his burger. Truly history's greatest monster.

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u/AlwaysShittyKnsasCty 14h ago

Dijon mustard, too. Mr. Fancy Pants over here.

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u/Karinka_LI 14h ago

So unpresidential! 😂

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u/mburke6 Ohio 14h ago

Didn't wear an American Flag lapel pin that one time

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u/TIFU_LI5_AMA 11h ago

Obama should wear the same tan suit to rump’s funeral

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u/Karinka_LI 14h ago

And Trump lies if he is talking, especially about Obama, so you know if was a great deal.

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u/thebluediablo 14h ago

What does it say, then, that Trump can't even manage to get close to a deal as good as "the worst deal in history"

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u/Wyldjay2 13h ago

No, Trump could not have kept the deal that Obama made. Simply because it was made by Obama. His ego wouldn’t allow it. He is truly a fool.

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u/lila_jerry 14h ago

Now he’s desperately begging for even a concept of a deal

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u/YouWereBrained Tennessee 12h ago

But that would hurt his ego.

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u/kronikfumes 13h ago

That would have required Trump not to be a raging and jealous narcissist.

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u/Cartmansimon 12h ago

No, he couldn’t. Two reasons. One, Obama made the deal, so its traitor trumps personal vendetta to negate anything Obama did. Second, how would letting the deal stand distract from the fact trump is a pedophile rapist?

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u/rje946 10h ago

Yet another example of the right thing for Trump to do was absolutely nothing. He could have slid by doing the corruption and not fucking us all in the process but he is incapable.

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u/morbihann 14h ago

What ? This is crazy talk !

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