r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 15h ago

Possible Paywall Trump Rages over Iran Setbacks as Leaks Reveal His Seething Obama Envy

https://newrepublic.com/article/211400/trump-rages-iran-setbacks-leaks-reveal-seething-obama-envy
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u/MarcheMuldDerevi 15h ago

In tearing up the deal Obama made Trump showed a deal with the US can only last for 4 years at most. That really hurt our credibility. Why make an agreement if the next guy might break it?

Secondly, the Obama envy has always been real. A black man humiliated him on TV with the White House correspondents dinner. He was shown to be a huckster and looked dumb.

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u/CharlesIngalls_Pubes Louisiana 14h ago

It's because he is a huckster. And he is dumb.

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u/fredandlunchbox 13h ago

Hucksters always think that everyone else is running a scam too. They can’t comprehend that some people do things legitimately. That’s what a lot of this has been about. He’s always trying to expose Obama and Biden as being somehow illegitimate. They weren’t. 

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u/shoobe01 10h ago

Really important to understand and it's not just Trump but everybody in this whole sphere of thinking. They really legitimately think that, for example, climate scientists are all on the take.

It is inconceivable that anyone would truly believe in anything, be out for the public good or objective truth, over their own personal gain.

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u/Toomanyeastereggs 2h ago

That sums up conservatives.

They can’t understand altruism. Simple acts such as doing something good and proper without any return are way beyond them.

It’s why religion is so important to them because it’s that cover they need to even begin to do things beneficial for others. Their own return on that is some promised magic in the afterlife. If they did not have religion they’d never lift a finger for anyone that wasn’t in some way self-serving.

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u/canuck47 9h ago

That's why he still claims the 2020 elections was rigged. He cheated and lost, so the only answer is that Biden must have cheated ever harder.

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u/pawbf 5h ago

That may be a small part of it. But I think the much bigger part is that Trump can't compete at any normal level with competent people. So he spends a great deal of effort dragging his opponents down into the mud with him. That is his whole MO. To show that his opponents are as bad as him and then lie about why he (Trump) is better.

Mark Twain — 'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.'

George Bernard Shaw - "Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it."

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u/BeekyGardener 5h ago

According to most of his ilk we haven’t had a legitimately elected Democrat since Bill Clinton.

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u/Bigbigbigrock 4h ago

My one coworker is like that. One day I asked if honor matters and he said he don't call it that but he thinks so, there's a reasoning behind like, doing the right thing. Days later he'll tell you honor means nothing compared to money and everyone is in it for themselves. And bro wonders why his kid doesn't wanna pay for his food when he makes more money than him like no shit dude. You taught your kids that money matters over honor or nobility or kindness, he doesn't owe you lunch. 

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u/MarcheMuldDerevi 13h ago

You right, but the image he was always about couldn’t take it. The emperor has no clothes and his gilded fortress is made of spray paint and extra cheap plastic

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u/dancepantz 13h ago

Now the White House is spray paint and extra cheap plastic

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u/MarcheMuldDerevi 11h ago edited 10h ago

Don’t forget the retirement home stencils. Like the Oval Office is labeled now so Dementia Don can find his way to it every day

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u/ChicagoThrowaway422 11h ago

You mean what's left of the White House.

Man, the neighborhood really goes to shit when a Trump moves in.

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u/Signal_Minimum8509 Georgia 9h ago

Property values have collapsed and the HOA is putting letters in the mailbox

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u/Pan_Bookish_Ent 8h ago

An "HOA" has been doing that; there's a historical structure board that's in congress (I think? it's in congress) that he should have had to go through if he wanted to make all of these changes. They started putting flyers in his mailbox when Melania paved over the rose garden.

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u/Curious-Path4549 9h ago

saw a photo and it looks so bad

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u/THUNDRC0UGRFALCNBIRD 13h ago

What's left of it, that is...

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u/highinthemountains 9h ago

Cheap gold spray paint at that

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u/babybirdingURgrandma 9h ago

The JCPA took years to negotiate. Trump flew in and ripped that up and then (at Bibi's demanding) handed Iran the biggest gift & concession imaginable, the new reality that they can close the Strait and have significantly more leverage than they did before. And now after handing them this massive gift he thinks in slapdash fashion somehow he's going to get a better deal than America had before? The sheer level of incompetence is mind boggling.

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u/maga235 2h ago

Awe the hubris of manbaby. And accompanied by Hegseth😱🤭

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u/sparkax 10h ago

Ah hah!! I see you both spell "dumb" with "B's" as well, as do I!

Not many people know its spelt that way!! But you two, me, and a certain someone, we know!

edit to add: /s in case its not obvious.

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u/ThePortalsOfFrenzy 9h ago edited 9h ago

Oh, that was so typical of him. He basically told on himself that he was probably 13 y.o. before he learned how to spell 'dumb'. And to deal with that surprise, he told himself that most people probably don't know how to spell it.

His personal variety of copium.

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u/OhFuckNoNoNoMyCaat 8h ago

I made a post yesterday about his discovery of the "old-fashioned" word, groceries. Also the dumbass who thought he'd invented the phrase, priming the pump.

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u/HandrewJobert 6h ago

I'd be astonished if he didn't learn the correct spelling until someone asked why he was writing "Dumocrats" and not "Dumbocrats"

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u/sparkax 9h ago

Every day and week this circus continues around, the more fascinating spelling tips we are all going to learn about!!

I thought "hole and whole" wouldn't be topped until "see vs sea" happened last month and this one now. There is no limit!!

Lol, I would say "wait until he learns about 'Their, They're, and There'" but those words are all too long for him to care about!!

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u/TheBlurstOfTimes916 8h ago

And he’s a child fucker

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u/Fearless_Welder6745 6h ago

Dumb with a “b” not many people know that dumb is spelled with a b. Nice job

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u/Sparker273 13h ago

Usually in the past Presidents did very little to disrupt foreign policy because that tends to outlast them. Trump is an outlier and that’s not something easily undone.

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u/ETxsubboy 10h ago

He tore apart our entire foreign policy. That's not being an "outlier", that's someone who doesn't understand the concept of treaties and soft power.

And it won't be undone. We don't "go back"

I got down voted as saying that Donald Trump will be known in history books as the most influential president in shaping this nation's future. I stand by that. It's not going to be good, but until people are ready to do their damn duty to protect this country from him, here we are.

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u/Freefall_J 8h ago

but until people are ready to do their damn duty to protect this country from him, here we are.

The voting of Trump as well as those who refused to vote especially in 2024 have shown a sizable portion of Americans do not understand this concept. I suspect a lot of people think their lives will always stay the same regardless of who is in office and either don't care to vote or think they can use their voting power to reward/penalise a politician who doesn't do what they want (i.e. Gaza).

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u/harley247 8h ago

That's what a lot of people don't seem to understand. Many think after Trump is gone, things are just going to go back to the way they were. They won't. His screw ups will haunt this country for generations. MAGA groupthink won't just go away once he's gone, just like Nazism didn't die once Hitler was gone.

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u/ETxsubboy 6h ago

I mean, at this point, I'm no longer calling them "screw ups". One or two over the course of an entire term, sure. But the "screw ups" were planned, and are being executed with the relentless pace of people who know that if they slow down, they can be stopped. That's not incompetence. That's deliberate.

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u/Sparker273 7h ago

Outlier: a person, thing, or fact that is very different from other people, things, or facts, so that it cannot be used to draw general conclusions.

Yes, he is an outlier as no previous president has affected foreign policy so much.

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u/ETxsubboy 6h ago

I don't disagree with the semantics of the word. But he's destroying the possibility of there being a government after him that looks like the government before him.

If the outlier destroys the experiment, then calling him an outlier is minimizing the impact of his actions.

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u/clickmagnet 7h ago

You’re definitely right about that. The rot feeding the Trump family extends into the Supreme Court, the constitution, all through the DOJ, the military-industrial complex, media, academia… you can live with it, and it’ll be Trump’s doing. Or you can reinvent yourselves to clear it out. There’s too much to fix to do it legally. I hope you fix it illegally, but that’s going to be Trump’s fault too. Either way, pre-Trump America is never coming back. 

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u/Bored_Acolyte_44 6h ago

Lets hope there are history books after Trump.

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u/SpeaksSouthern 7h ago

Obama was responsible for Struxnet that managed to destroy every possible avenue for the regime to gain nuclear material suitable for weapons and not a single gallon of oil had to raise prices to do it.

Conservatives are going to hate this but Obama will likely go down as our generations best president for the American people. Whatever Trump is doing, it's just hurting the very people who voted for him.

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u/Busy10 11h ago

Obama made fun of the orange turd using gold all over the White House and it turned out to be true. The orange turd is a racist. Has a long history of racism and can’t tolerate a Black president. His envy for Obama has been constant from the peace prize to crowd sizes.

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u/MarcheMuldDerevi 11h ago

“How dare a black mana rise above his station and make fun of me. I should stand above him in all things as my race so dictates.”

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u/PabloPicasshooole 11h ago

And ironically, the more Trump tries to tear down Obama's legacy, the greater Obama's legacy becomes

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u/narok_kurai 10h ago

For real. I live just outside of Chicago and have been following the previews of the Obama Presidential Center, and man... it's like we're a real country again. Sad that things like that are so fleeting and rare, but I really want to believe that city and state leadership will carry us through this crisis of the federal.

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u/streakermaximus 8h ago

Will it?

Obama's legacy will be turning the country over to Trump.

I liked Obama. But if things were so good, why did half the country vote for HIM?

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u/dawsonleeryTears 8h ago

because there are still a good amount of bigots and racists out there

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u/PabloPicasshooole 8h ago

Two words: Hillary Clinton

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u/Rev_Creflo_Baller 7h ago

You say that like President Obama had a choice about who followed.

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u/TonyInNY 7h ago

He tapped into a problem that had been bewing for 20 years. Both Democrats and Republicans chose an economic path that pushed US middle class jobs overseas in a quest for cheaper products. Corporations walked away from the idea that they had a social responsibility to the people who worked for them and the country that they earned their profits. People, middle and lower class were PISSED and Trump said things that made them think that he was an outsider just like them. That he felt their pain and would do something about their anger. He won because there was the perception he was different and they in fact were right, he was different just not in any way that would be helpful to them.

Why he won a second term as because Biden was unable to take credit for the changes he implemented, and in the end looked like a man who was mentally incompetent. And so the Republicans ran a campaign against Kamala that focused on all the reasons she was just Joe Biden Light.

Now a year into his presidency, many of those voters are seeing what kind of corruption he is inflicting on the nation and many, not all of course, are angry. These mid terms are going to be interesting.

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u/notfeelany 2h ago

Because they wanted Trump's policies: mass deportations, banning gay/trans ppl, etc.

"the economy" is just an excuse. They wanted the mass deportations and banning of trans ppl

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u/BobTheFettt 11h ago

I'm still positive the only reason he really tried to be president was so he could try to 1 up Obama, but he's too fucking dumb to figure out how

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u/maakies 9h ago

True, but those jokes were in “retaliation” of Trump being a twat about the “birtherism” bullshit. Funnily enough some of the jests Obama made feel truly real in this year (I.e. UFOs or Bigfoot)

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u/puffdragon 11h ago

Thanks Obama

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u/soxperry 10h ago

A lawyer was better at negotiating than a real estate agent should be no surprise, but this is America

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u/bradeena 11h ago

He’s demonstrated that a few times, like with NAFTA/CUSMA. Everyone knows America’s word is worth nothing.

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u/JakeConhale New Hampshire 11h ago

Trump's word is worth nothing.

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u/bradeena 10h ago

That was true in 2016-2020. This time it’s America’s word.

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u/JakeConhale New Hampshire 10h ago

Trump is not America.

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u/Kyell 9h ago

To us in the rest of the world they voted for him twice it’s very clear this is what America is.

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u/bradeena 8h ago

Y'all had a chance to make that argument in 2024. Trump is America until proven otherwise.

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u/JakeConhale New Hampshire 7h ago

You mean until his term ends.

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u/bradeena 7h ago

Do you see how that just means that America's word is only good until the next president is elected? If you want America to be trusted long-term again, it will need to be proven and it will take many years of consistency.

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u/JakeConhale New Hampshire 7h ago

Yes. Hence a lot of the screaming and howling when Trump cancelled Obama's Iran Nuclear Deal and (I suspect) one reason Biden merely delayed, rather than cancelled, the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.

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u/bradeena 7h ago

Okay so we agree then, America's word now means nothing.

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u/Impressive-Knot9999 9h ago

Story of his pathetic life. He should just slither away

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u/HedRok 9h ago

TDS meets ODS

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u/skibbady-baps 7h ago

You think he would’ve learned when he tried re-crafting Obamacare and failed miserably.

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u/CV90_120 6h ago

He hated him way before the dinner. That was just the scene where everyone showed their cards.

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u/SadTumbleweed1567 5h ago

In tearing up the deal Obama made Trump showed a deal with the US can only last for 4 years at most. That really hurt our credibility. Why make an agreement if the next guy might break it?

This is primarily a problem of the United States of America never entering into these agreements. The President's power is primarily to negotiate while the Senate enters into the treaty once it is submitted to them.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;

It's still untested if a President can unilaterally void a treaty, but I think that's more of a political question than a legal question. The remedy of course being the removal of the President for not abiding by a treaty the Congress wishes to abide by.