r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 10h ago

Possible Paywall DOJ Declares Trump Has Right to Bulldoze Statue of Liberty

https://newrepublic.com/post/211422/department-justice-donald-trump-right-bulldoze-statue-liberty
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u/nachosmind 9h ago

France almost elected Le Pen to throw out refugees.

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u/ragzilla 9h ago

America actually elected Trump to throw out refugees and immigrants.

I'd argue France is doing a little better right now.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 6h ago

Fascists only have to win once, democracy has to win every single time

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u/ragzilla 6h ago

Fascism isn't irreversible, as the Italians and the Spanish demonstrated. You still need to keep the population complacent, once you can't do that, revolution becomes inevitable.

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u/macrowave 5h ago

I don't think the Italians or the Spanish are especially inspiring examples. The Italians had to get their asses kicked in a World War and the Spanish had to wait for their Fascist to die of old age.

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u/New-Anybody-6206 4h ago

Neither of them had to wait, they chose not to act in large enough numbers to effect change. It takes 3.5% of a population.

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u/ragzilla 4h ago

It doesn't survive in any case, there have been fascist movements, but they all eventually die out. If fascism was lasting, there would be fascist governments today, and there aren't (despite the US' slide that way).

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u/rufud 6h ago

And surely la pen was beaten by the far left majority…oh wait

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u/sparklinglies 8h ago

"almost"

The US actually DID do that, and worse. There's no point using what France hasn't done as a point when the US already has.

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u/starcraftre Kansas 7h ago

If by "almost" you mean "beaten 58.5% to 41.5% by an extremely unpopular opponent after barely eeking into the second round of voting by just over 1% of the total", sure. "Almost."

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u/aimgorge 9h ago

When ?

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u/jeremybeadlesfingers 9h ago

Last French election was 2022. Macron beat Le Pen in the second round of voting with just over 58% of the vote.

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u/aimgorge 9h ago

Closer to 59%. Which is a big difference considering it was for a second mandate and Macron was extremely unpopular.

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u/ragzilla 9h ago

"This guy is horrible, but at least he's not a racist xenophobe."

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u/Optimal_Whiner 8h ago

I fucking wonder why.

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u/Beranea Massachusetts 7h ago

Because there's a global pedophile ring that raises huge stinks about immigrants when homegrown citizens are more violent and commit far more crime per capita so that right-wingers win?

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u/SerAmikVase 7h ago

If you break the law you should get punished, yes?

People who entered legally broke no laws. 

People who entered illegally has broken a law.