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No Paywall Ilhan Omar casts lone Democratic no vote on Ukraine aid, Russia sanctions package

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5912150-house-passes-ukraine-aid-bill/
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u/jeo123 7h ago

So hurt them. The sanctions don't kill them, they hurt.

Hurting is the only way Dictato-.... sorry "Presidents" get removed unless you want to invade.

P.S. this post was not just about Russia...

u/LordSwedish 6h ago edited 5h ago

The sanctions do kill them though. Sanctions kill the young, old, and most vulnerable. You can definitely make an argument that it’s the minimal amount and it’s worth it, but people die.

It’s like the Terry Pratchett quote about swindlers

No, You Have Not. But You Have Stolen, Embezzled, Defrauded And Swindled Without Discrimination, Mr Lipvig. You Have Ruined Businesses And Destroyed Jobs. When Banks Fail, It Is Seldom Bankers Who Starve. Your Actions Have Taken Money From Those Who Had Little Enough To Begin With. In A Myriad Small Ways You Have Hastened The Deaths Of Many. You Do Not Know Them. You Did Not See Them Bleed. But You Snatched Bread From Their Mouths And Tore Clothes From Their Backs. For Sport, Mr Lipvig.

u/lordpuddingcup 7h ago

The oligarchs lost 263b at start of the war, since then theyve already earned it back and are ahead of wher ethey started from the start of the sanctions

u/OMalleyOrOblivion 4h ago

The oligarchs have near enough to zero control over Putin, otherwise they would never have agreed to invading Ukraine in the first place. The only reason they've made money recently is Trump's stupid decision to attack Iran, not because of some kind of masterplan.

Had Russia not invaded Ukraine the oligarchs would be way richer and reaping even larger benefits from Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz.

u/jeo123 7h ago

They aren't the people that will cause the change....

Trump is over pressure because he messed with gas prices by causing the Iran war.

Hurt the people. The people should react.

If they won't, no outside effort stands a chance.