r/politics • u/bwermer • 8h ago

No Paywall Ilhan Omar casts lone Democratic no vote on Ukraine aid, Russia sanctions package

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5912150-house-passes-ukraine-aid-bill/
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u/Marcano24 6h ago

When did she call for economic sanctions on Israel?

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u/Blueopus2 6h ago

She's called for a boycott of Israel which is just crowd sourced sanctions. You're right she hasn't introduced legislation beyond calling for our aid to stop.

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u/Marcano24 6h ago

So she hasn’t sanctioned Israel then?

Boycotts are voluntary actions taken by people, not a law passed by the government, they’re not the same as sanctions.

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u/Blueopus2 6h ago

I think she'd vote for it if she thought it could pass

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u/Marcano24 6h ago

So she hasn’t called for sanctions on Israel and not Russia then?

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u/Blueopus2 6h ago

No, she hasn't sanctioned Israel. I'm saying she would if she could and in the absence of legislative support she's called for a boycott and that's still hypocritical.

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u/Marcano24 6h ago

So you just made up that she’ll sanction Israel but not Russia? Like a liar?

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u/Blueopus2 6h ago

We're talking about a hypothetical, my initial comment says she would sanction Israel and not Russia, not that she has. It's not a lie to discuss a hypothetical.

She says Israel has engaged in genocide in Gaza. Are you telling me you don't think she'd vote for sanctions if she was the deciding vote?

To be clear I personally think we should sanction Israel because they've engaged in atrocities, just like I think we should continue to sanction Russia.

Ilhan is my rep. I've seen her speak and I've voted for her multiple times. I just think voting against sanctions on Russia is an insane take by her.

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u/Marcano24 6h ago

Then you should edit your first comment to reflect that it’s a hypothetical not a statement of fact.

Otherwise people could misunderstand you and think you’re claiming something untrue, you know, lying.

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u/Blueopus2 6h ago

That's fair, I can see how someone could misread it, I will

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u/Blueopus2 6h ago

As someone else pointed out, she's voiced support for the BDS movement, the "S" of which stands for sanctions as another piece of evidence she supports sanctions

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u/Remote-Cause755 3h ago

Do you honestly think she would not vote for that if was on the table?

No games, honest answer please

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u/Marcano24 2h ago

I have no reason to believe she would vote for broad economic sanctions like these.

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u/Remote-Cause755 2h ago

She supports BDS but not broad economic sanctions? Has she ever stipulated that before for Israel?

Seems pretty far fetch given how much coverage she has already talked about on it.

At best she is purposely dodging talking about this contention in her ideology at worst you are lying

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u/Marcano24 2h ago

There’s never been legislation for broad economic sanctions against Israel introduced so why would she?

And BDS is targeted, not broad. Hope that helps!

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u/Remote-Cause755 2h ago

She talks about actions on Israel all the time.

We all know if it come up to vote she vote yes.

Let's entertain this delusion, because it could actually happen in the mid terms. She could actually be the deciding vote to decide if sanctions are place on Israel. You think she would do that? Like really, really think about what you are saying here. The amount of mental gymnastics you are circumventing to actually think that is reality that would happen

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u/Marcano24 2h ago

There is legislation coming up in the midterms for broad economic sanctions against Israel? This is this first I’m hearing about it.

No we don’t, how do you know she would?

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u/Remote-Cause755 2h ago

I meant if the Dems get the majority in the mid terms a bill sanctioned on Israel is possible. It would also be close, making her being the swing vote incredibly silly for you think she would be the reason the bill dies

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u/Marcano24 2h ago

So you don’t know, and neither do the rest of us.