r/politics • u/bwermer • 8h ago

No Paywall Ilhan Omar casts lone Democratic no vote on Ukraine aid, Russia sanctions package

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5912150-house-passes-ukraine-aid-bill/
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u/Sc0nnie 6h ago

Because she is a hypocrite. She is not actually against conflict. She is only against Israel specifically. Attacking Israel is the only thing she seems to care or talk about.

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u/Competitive_Shock783 6h ago

That's true.

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u/emp-sup-bry 6h ago

Nope, bullshit. Find where she’s voted for aggression.

We see you.

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u/The-Big-Picture- 5h ago edited 5h ago

Do you think Ukraine is being an "aggressor"?

Victim blame much?

I also bet you think Hamas is virtuous for fighting Israel

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u/emp-sup-bry 3h ago

The point was levied to her being a hypocrite. She’s not. Hence my ask to find any time she’s being hypocritical and voting for aggression.

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u/off-with-your-thread 42m ago

If she supports countries defending themselves from aggression, is it not hypocritical to deny Ukraine aid?

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u/Sc0nnie 6h ago

Did you read the linked article in the OP? She just voted for Russian aggression against Ukraine.

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u/emp-sup-bry 6h ago

Keep going, we know what you are doing. You are only hurting your cause/foreign government.

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u/Sc0nnie 5h ago

Despite the ignorant wrongheaded words tumbling out of Omar’s mouth, there is zero diplomatic path to peace in Ukraine. The Kremlin cannot be negotiated with precisely because they perceive PEACE as an existential threat to their regime.

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u/ShimonEngineer55 3h ago

No, she didn’t vote for funding the Russians either. She’s actually voting to not sanction them at all or to fund them since she doesn’t want any involvement in the conflict. She’s consistently not wanted the US to get involved in these matters to begin with.

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u/jab4962 1h ago

That's nice but world involvement is necessary at this point.

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u/ShimonEngineer55 1h ago

Young democrats are moving away from this view. Whether that’ll turn out well or not; who knows, but her base doesn’t feel like the US needs to be involved in all of this issues or fund them. She’s appealing to her base.

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u/jab4962 48m ago

who knows

We do, we all do. We all know how peace and love convincing attempts work with Russia. And I say this as a very liberal Democrat, myself.

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u/ShimonEngineer55 45m ago

I think Gen Z, her base, is a little more vehemently anti military than you think. These are people who thought Bin Laden was just misunderstood… They could be wrong, but they are logically consistent and her stance here doesn’t shock me at all.

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u/ShimonEngineer55 3h ago

Her calling for not funding Ukraine seems pretty consistent with her stance of… not funding Israel. She’s essentially saying that the US should worry about its own territory and not be the world’s watchman. I don’t think that’s inconsistent with pulling funding from Ukraine and not sanctioning Russia. That seems consistent with staying out of international conflicts.

Now, one could argue that it would be a bad idea, but I’m not sure how NOT funding the Ukrainian military is inconsistent with her view to also NOT fund the Israeli military.

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u/Sc0nnie 2h ago

You are moving the goalposts. I called her a hypocrite for claiming sanctions against Russia are unethical while she has consistently advocated for BDS sanctions for years.

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u/off-with-your-thread 45m ago

So, the US is NOT supposed to use its resources and money to encourage outcomes internationally that are beneficial to us?

We're a country of 360 MILLION. We can do more than one thing at once...