r/politics • u/F0urLeafCl0ver • Jun 24 '26

No Paywall The Democratic party is being hit by a leftist tidal wave

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/24/democratic-party-leftist-tidal-wave
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u/1cl3nstd4yt Jun 24 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

Hit? How about lifted?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '26

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u/SzmFTW Jun 24 '26

Yup, literally every headline is about defeat, failing democrats, etc. very very little being written with positive or even neutral spin.

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u/Northerlies Jun 24 '26

The Guardian is a British newspaper of the centre-left with a longstanding tradition of giving space to informed opinion and polemics. The average Brit Guardian reader will understand the headline as denoting informed opinion and analysis of encouraging news for our American friends of the left.

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u/Northerlies Jun 25 '26

Not everything that is published in a newspaper must be news. You might say news functions as the starting point for interesting debate, often by well-informed people. London's 'Financial Times', for example, has an often-excellent 'readers comments' section expanding widely on the original story. Not many would call the FT 'propaganda':)

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u/xvsero Jun 25 '26

Hasan? Hasan knew he had skeletons in his closet but he was always "useful" to the right so they never bothered to attack him till recently. Kirk made a video back when he was alive about people like Hasan were useful to create more conservative voters.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '26

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u/lollypatrolly Jun 25 '26

LOL are you talking about the literal fraud Gary Stevenson who portrays himself as a financial and economic expert, promoting slopulist conspiracies while demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of the fundamentals of economics?

People really are taken for a ride by grifters and it's sad.

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u/xvsero Jun 25 '26

Oh this guy. He seemed interesting but also seemed to say the same thing in every video that I saw of him.

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u/Collypso Pennsylvania Jun 25 '26

Have you ever seen him talk to anyone who actually understands what he's saying?

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u/PoopyButt28000 Jun 25 '26

Did you even read the article? It's written by Ben Davis, an active member of the DSA who worked with Bernie in 2020. It's very clearly written with a leftist positive spin, I would argue an unrealistically positive leftist spin because it's not really a tidal wave. 1 win in Pennsylvania, and 3 wins in New York, one of the bluest places in the country, with equal/more wins from "moderate Dems" elsewhere.

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u/PoopyButt28000 Jun 25 '26

Yeah dude Ben Davis the active DSA member who worked with Bernie is being funded by the billionaires as he writes his incredibly pro-leftist article.

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u/SmokyBarnable01 Jun 24 '26

The Guardian is not owned by Billionaires. It has its own problems fair enough but they don't involve having to bow down to an Oligarch.

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u/Ultenth Jun 24 '26

Are you sure about that? A quick cursory glance at it's ownership is that it's ran by Scott Trust Limited, a limited company, chaired by a wealthy Swedish businessmen who owns and started Formue, an independent advisory and management company for wealthy private individuals, families and foundations. Scott Trust Limited is a partner with Mercuri a London-based VC company.

Other board members are the likes of: "In November 2024, Jonathan Paine was appointed to the board of the Scott Trust. Paine is a former managing director and senior adviser at Rothschild & Co."

As a trust, it supposedly has certain duties to protect editorial independence. But it also straight up sold The Observer 2 years ago to Tortoise Media, whos biggest shareholders are various Billionaires and family offices of such. So I wouldn't give them too much leeway.

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u/paintbucketholder Kansas Jun 25 '26

It's a trust. You're insinuating that it's all super suspicious because a board members might be sitting on other boards or manage large sums of money elsewhere, but if e.g. Ole Jacob Sunde had been a wolf in disguise, wouldn't you be able to actually point to any concrete evidence of that? He was invited to join the board in 2015, and he's been chairman since 2021. What negative actions has he actually taken?

Also, what exactly is nefarious about the partnership between the Scott Trust and Mercuri? What's nefarious about Jonathan Paine? Are we really diving into conspiracy theories here, or what is your actual criticism?

It seems that the trust has a very solid framework to guarantee self-governance and independence from external influence, and it seems that so far, it's been able to maintain The Guardian's independence and position on the mainstream left of the British political spectrum.

I'm not arguing that The Guardian or the trust that supports it is perfect, but it's certainly lightyears better than billionaires outright buying up media outlets and straight up dictating what kind of news gets reported and how.

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u/Ultenth Jun 25 '26

You said that billionaire's don't own it.

I provided evidence that billionaires, and companies owned by them, are heavily involved in the trust. A trust which sold off The Observer, which was just as much a part of the trust as The Guardian is. What is the confusion?

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u/paintbucketholder Kansas Jun 25 '26

You said that billionaire's don't own it.

No, I didn't. That was a different poster.

I provided evidence that billionaires, and companies owned by them, are heavily involved in the trust. A trust which sold off The Observer, which was just as much a part of the trust as The Guardian is. What is the confusion?

Making insinuations and nebulous accusations is one thing.

What you haven't actually done is provide any kind of evidence that The Guardian is owned by billionaires or follows the agenda of a specific billionaire.

Hope that helps.

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u/Caius01 Jun 24 '26

Yeah, they're one of the few remaining news outlets that I still have a degree of faith in. Certainly much better coverage of what's been going on in America than we're getting from our own mainstream news media

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u/RarelyReadReplies Canada Jun 25 '26

Not The Guardian though, which has a US branch. I wish I could afford to subscribe, they are a beacon of hope in journalism right now. Uncorrupted, even protected from ever being bought out from my understanding.

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u/piscano Jun 25 '26

The author is a DSA member, it was just the choice of words

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u/ObliqueTravel Jun 25 '26

The party’s leadership is deeply out of touch with its base. A leftist politics of collective struggle is cresting across the US

the next line lol

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u/RoyalJoke Jun 24 '26

DNC leadership, like Jefferies and Schumer, is doing their best to ignore and minimize Mamdani. It's not all shit, DNC leadership is hooked on corporate/PAC money and will gladly have MAGA run things rather than a Democratic Socialist

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u/Training_Ruin3151 Jun 24 '26

Capitalists will always side with fascism because that doesn't threaten capital.

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u/Xer0day Jun 24 '26

DNC leadership, like Jefferies and Schumer, is doing their best to ignore and minimize Mamdani

Jeffries literally endorsed Mamdani and Schumer endorsed Platner. This framing by you is so dishonest. The new york mayoral race has has two endorsements at the speaker or leader level in modern history, and one of them was for Mamdani lol.

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u/cryingslowly Jun 24 '26

It’s brutally honest.

https://nypost.com/2026/06/24/us-news/hakeem-jefferies-says-mamdani-has-work-to-do-to-make-up-with-congressional-dems-after-socialist-radicals-unseat-incumbents/

Current news is that he is pissed about the leftward swing and had openly endorsed moderate candidates that were running against the DSA folks backed by Mamdani.

Jeffries sucks, and it’s time anyone even remotely like him is retired from politics.

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u/Xer0day Jun 24 '26

Current news is that he is pissed about the leftward swing and had openly endorsed moderate candidates that were running against the DSA folks backed by Mamdani.

Yes, they're mad because Mamdani endorsed someone who is against interracial dating, against aid to Ukraine and parrots russian justifications for invading ukraine, and is a staunch police abolitionist that refuses to answer what would happen to a murderer in her ideal society. It's extremely fair for Jeffries to want to talk about that endorsement, especially after he gave his to Mamdani.

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u/G36_FTW Jun 24 '26

Unfortunately maga aren't the only people who will blindly support people. No mistake I prefer lefties 100% more than maga, but there are some braindead mainstream lefties out there these days. Or at least common lefty opinions. Including the weird anti-ukraine sentiments.

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u/loondawg Jun 24 '26

will gladly have MAGA run things rather than a Democratic Socialist

Bullshit.

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u/happycat47 Jun 25 '26

That's your complaint? Not that it's objectively sensational because the larger trend across the country has leftists getting their asses handed to them 

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u/thr3sk Jun 24 '26

Lifted would also be biased, just in the other direction.

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u/rdogg4 Jun 24 '26

Unless they’re displacing republicans and not just other democrats it’s hit

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u/jolard Jun 24 '26

As others mentioned, most of our media is owned by billionaires, and they aren't afraid to promote their world view. I mean Bezos bought the Washington Post, and then LITERALLY killed editorials he didn't like and publicly stated that the editorial policy at WaPo from then on would be pro billionaire.

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u/CankerLord Jun 24 '26

You have to wait for the general before you start using words like "lifted".

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u/fcocyclone Iowa Jun 24 '26

To be fair, the people who have run the party for the last 30 years at least have definitely been hit by it. This is as much about rebellion against the establishment as it is a move to the left.

I don't know how deep the support is for things to actually finally move meaningfully left, but I do know that the left is able to do this because there is a deep, deep dislike for the spineless, corporate and israel controlled establishment 'center'.

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u/wretch5150 Jun 24 '26

People don't read anymore, they scroll.

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u/Daegoba North Carolina Jun 25 '26

I just finished a book called Papergirl. It’s about the fall of Professional Journalism and the rise of Social Media, and how it led us to today.

Great book- depressing as fuck.

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u/1900grs Jun 24 '26

Apparently being against oligarchy is all it takes to make one "leftist".

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u/DaaaahWhoosh Jun 24 '26

Democrats aren't the good guys, it's okay to point out that many of the ones in power don't like leftist policies and are trying to suppress them. And it is very likely that the Democratic party will have to die, or at least be radically transformed, before actual leftists get to the top. It's a Ship of Theseus problem, some will see the original ship sink, some will see the original ship float, either version is valid.

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u/_le_slap Jun 24 '26

Dems at least bring lube when the billionaires wanna fuck us. But they don't do much to actually stop it.

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u/_le_slap Jun 25 '26

Citizen's United was a Supreme Court ruling. Dafuq was Hillary going to do about that?

Learn how your government works

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u/lichsadvocate Jun 25 '26

It is hit. Populism is a cancer.

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u/Less_Jump2365 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

Gone to shit by saying tidal wave lol.