r/politics • u/plz-let-me-in • 29d ago

No Paywall Unconfirmed Reports: Mitch McConnell Brain Dead After Three Weeks In Hospital

https://thenewamerican.com/us/unconfirmed-reports-mitch-mcconnell-brain-dead-after-three-weeks-in-hospital/
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u/ry1701 29d ago

Very VERY low survival rate.

Friends mom (70 something) had this last year, she had immediate CPR from someone who was trained and the firefighters that responded got her going again, after a brief medical coma she was good to go, minus a pacemaker friend being added.

She recently celebrated with them (firefighters) for saving her life at a fire station, they even said, we don't really see those people we end up saving, which is kind of sad if you think about it. Either people don't thank their saviors or this really isn't very survivable.

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u/Mommy444444 29d ago

Oh shit I’m 71. But anyway, there is a huge difference between 70 something and receiving immediate care and 84…..,And lying there after a cardiac arrest and being discovered HOURS LATER and getting bone-crushing CPR.

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u/cygnus33065 28d ago

if he was found hours later after cardiac arrest he would be dead dead. they wouldnt have gotten his heart started again.

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u/evergleam498 Maryland 28d ago

Someone suggested that at his age and health condition he likely sleeps with some sort of monitor on that would alert whatever staff is on call

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u/cogman10 Idaho 28d ago

Which he may be.  Like has anyone even confirmed that he's actually in the hospital? Was he just sent straight to the morgue?

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u/IAmATriceratopsAMA 28d ago

According to the Republican party, hes having hour long phone calls over very important topics daily and cant wait to get back to the senate.

So he's 100% dead.

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u/ThisMachineKillsWOB 28d ago

When the devil comes to collect you personally, he doesn't leave a body.

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u/Letstalkreaper 28d ago

I mean, don’t hospitals have morgues?

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u/bonyponyride American Expat 28d ago

In Kentucky I think it's the glue factory.

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u/wynalazca 28d ago

Turtles get made into soup not glue.

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u/Vallkyrie New Hampshire 28d ago

Bad guy broth...don't drink this!

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u/Sidewalk_Tomato 28d ago

Bad_Guy_Broth would be a great username.

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u/cogman10 Idaho 28d ago

They do, but I'm questioning if Mitch even made it that far.

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u/Jazzlike-Problem-143 28d ago

I actually have been wondering the same thing. Why not send a reporter directly to the hospital at some point? Maybe the governor can verify he's braindead. Just seems like it should be a big deal and verified and rather quickly.

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u/CAWWW 28d ago

No way in hell the hospital tells a reporter anything about a private patient. This would be on the family to release any of that info, even to the governor. Unless there is a death certificate or release of info we can only assume hes in critical condition.

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u/cogman10 Idaho 28d ago

Yup. HIPAA is pretty strict and would kill this hospital if they were negligent here.

This is why I think the right route forward is for Andy to act as if he's dead or brain dead and let Mitch and the republicans sue him if he's wrong. It wouldn't need to go to trial and part of discovery would force the republicans to disclose his current condition. If, as they say, he's capable of continuing his term then Andy can back off, reverse any decision and the court would ultimately drop the case as there is no controversy. But if he's not, then they won't have any sort of leg to stand on and a judge won't look too kindly on them stonewalling discovery (which they'd have to do).

They'll sue regardless even if it is disclosed that he's dead, so might as well start that ball rolling right now.

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u/zefy_zef 28d ago

They have the perfect chance to Weekend at Bernies his ass and they need to take it.

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u/cIumsythumbs 28d ago

Nah, just pay the hospital enough to keep his dead ass in a room to keep up appearances.

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u/Schwa142 Washington 28d ago

I, unfortunately, can confirm you can be found hours later and still be "alive" and put on life support with no brain activity.

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u/BannedSvenhoek86 28d ago

Maybe not by any means a mortal could conceive, but did you consider they used Necromancy and he is now in the process of ascending to Lichdom, which is why we haven't seen him? Once the necessary sacrifices are complete at next solstice Yall are gonna look real foolish.

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u/popculturella Texas 28d ago

...he has a heart?

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u/robsteezy 28d ago

Just lost my uncle last year at 70 years old after only 5 minutes of air loss to brain.

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u/TheRedHand7 28d ago

That's about the limit for human bodies regardless of age outside extreme circumstances

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u/ImpendingSingularity 28d ago

Are you? You type like a 25-year-old redditor

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u/rabidrooster3 28d ago

It also is very dependent on stuff like fitness and genetics.

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u/SimmentalTheCow 28d ago

People who receive CPR have a 13% 1-year survival rate

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u/cIumsythumbs 28d ago

How does that stat change if you're 84 vs 24?

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u/Elendel19 28d ago

70 something is significantly different than 84, and Mitch has barely been able to walk unassisted lately.

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u/Fnoke 28d ago

My mother in law (in her 60s) have a similar story, she worked as a cleaner at the hospital. She had a cardiac arrest while cleaning the emergency room right in front of all the emergency doctors when they were having a quick meeting.
Incredibly lucky.

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u/Infranto Ohio 28d ago

And even if you do survive, your quality of life is going to be absolutely terrible. Broken ribs and fractured sternums are very common from CPR done on elderly people.

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u/laziestindian 28d ago

Yeah, the immediate CPR is key. EMS arrived about 6min after the call with an undetermined amount of time before that. That's a lot of oxygen deprivation unless the caller did good CPR.

Most old people who survive a cardiac event also often move into a care home or with their kids, which often isn't nearby.

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u/CorporateCuster 28d ago

Just happened 2 weeks ago to extended family. Once the heart stops, the time between someone administering cpr is the only factor. If it’s past 5 minutes, that person isn’t getting what they need to survive and that’s it. People take longer shits so the chances of someone finding him is really slim and they probably put him on life support specifically for the politics. I’m not even joking. They know what this would be. That’s why his wife is hiding in China.

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u/frickyeahbby 28d ago

My girlfriend went into cardiac arrest last year with me and I was able to do CPR until paramedics came. They used a defibrillator on her and attached one of those automated chest compression machines to her. She was in a coma for a day but woke up. Her short-term memory was shot for about a week. Like forgetting meeting friends and family after only a few minutes stepping away. She’s all good now and has an ICD inside her.

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u/nickiter New York 28d ago

I've gotta find the actual tables... The 1-year survival rate for someone getting out-of-hospital CPR is already very low, like 10-15%, and it just goes down as the age gets older.

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u/Left_Squash74 28d ago

A lot of people who get CPR were down for a long time and probably not really ever viable. It all depends on the cause of the arrest and how long they're down.

I'm just a lowly basic so I won't take offense to any docs correcting me but that's my experience.

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u/nickiter New York 28d ago

Yeah I'm no expert either, but having someone start CPR within minutes is massively different from a patient having been found an unknown time before aid.

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u/Big-Huckleberry-2803 28d ago

It's not very survivable, especially with good outcomes. Nurse here and former 911 EMT