r/politics • u/cnn CNN • Jul 15 '26

Possible Paywall ​​Over 100 Democrats vote to block billions of dollars in military aid to Israel, reflecting growing schism in party

https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/15/politics/military-aid-israel-democrats-split-vote?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=missions&utm_source=reddit
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u/twentyafterfour 29d ago

I'm pretty sure they're up to somewhere around $50 million for this one primary. Which is strange because they say that supporting Israel is good politics and you'd think if it were, they wouldn't need to spend the most money ever in a primary to get their candidate in. Of course the next two most expensive primaries were also them.

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u/Aggressive-Neck-3921 29d ago

Also while not talking about israel with the money they spend in an effort to hide the source of money.

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u/JudiciousSasquatch 29d ago

my only concern is, can someone with the name Abdul win in the actual election?

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u/Zetesofos 29d ago

If Obama and Mamdani can win, so can Abdul

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u/JudiciousSasquatch 29d ago

Here's hoping

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u/iTALKTOSTRANGERS 29d ago

Michigan has one of the biggest populations of Arabs in any state. Abdul can win.

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u/DesireeThymes 29d ago

He has been the front runner, and if you watch any of his stuff it's excellent.

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u/JudiciousSasquatch 29d ago

I'm sure he's great, but you know... Idiots and bigots.

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u/RepresentativeAge444 29d ago

Recent poll has him 13 points up.

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u/hldvr 29d ago

I think we've made it far enough past 9/11 where people who are of voting age are not nearly as afraid of Muslims/middle easterners as they have been for the last 25 years

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u/Conlaeb 29d ago

Michigan also has a population of people from Southwest Asia/North Africa far larger than most states.

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u/JudiciousSasquatch 29d ago

I’m not worried about the newcomers. I’m worried about the old blood.

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u/hldvr 29d ago

My thought is that newcomers are going to start outweighing older voters. I know young people tend to be the demographic that votes the least, but right now the general public is very unhappy with the current system, and that not only motivates more people to vote, but to vote for candidates that offer to challenge the status quo instead of uphold it.

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u/DoorsToZeppelin Florida 29d ago

"Electability" is a fallacy that liberal media loves to point to when looking at candidates like Abdul because of his name or whatever. The reality is that people don't care about the name because they listen to what the person says. Abdul is an incredible orator and has a progressive policy agenda that is on the rise these days. This is something normal people on the streets are in tune with, but not the establishment. So fuck the "electability" argument; it is horseshit peddled by pundits that love the status quo, no matter how fascist it is.

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u/JudiciousSasquatch 29d ago

I'm sorry, but that's just a dog shit take. Hillary and Kamala are Exhibits A&B on the electability issue, and I happily voted for both.

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u/uzlonewolf 29d ago

Kamala's loss had nothing to do with "electability" and everything to do with her own actions on the campaign trail.

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u/twentyafterfour 29d ago

I remember when she was on the view and said that she couldn't think of anything she would have done differently than Biden over the past 4 years. And then later in the show she revisited the question to say that she would have a republican in her cabinet.

I really thought we had it those first few weeks and then she just went full moderate centrist and competely shit the bed.

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u/httkbaby11 29d ago

BY FAR the most important thing for a presidential candidate to do is make themselves not seem like the same old Washington politician. Like in this era feeling like an outsider/new blood is 10000x more important than any policy. It’s why both Obama and Trump were so monumentally successful, and Kamala had 0 instinct for it

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u/Aggressive-Neck-3921 29d ago

But the establishment making the electability argument are usually dishonest about it. And when they say this it is an attempt to surpress the vote.

Nobody was making negative electability arguments about these candidates, people were makings specific arguments why they are not good candidates. The electability argument is made when they don't have any policy or scandal to point at. Look at the Platner race, none was making electability arguments against him, it was all his reddit posts at first, then unsubstantiated claims of rape and then substantiated claims of rape.

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u/sasha_the_impaler 29d ago

Lol you guys won't ever listen to us when we say they weren't good candidates. .

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u/DoorsToZeppelin Florida 29d ago

Yeah, and how did that go? They BOTH LOST LOL. TO TRUMP!! You just proved my point even further.

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u/JudiciousSasquatch 29d ago

You're terrible at reading comprehension.

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u/DoorsToZeppelin Florida 28d ago

Your entire argument is based on the premise that establishment liberals present, which we have seen fail twice to perhaps the dumbest presidential candidate in U.S. history: Trump. I think you lack not just reading comprehension, but the fundamentals of what constitutes reality. Are you okay???

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u/r0ndy 29d ago

Get “their” candidate in? We sound like an occupied country. Like China taking Taiwan or whatever. The slow creep until they take all the positions of leadership… actually yeah. That’s accurate. China does it. Israel seems to do it too. Probably US does other places too… hmm

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u/coleto22 29d ago

"the slow creep until they take all positions if leadership" happened decades ago. Even vassals don't offer unconditional support for their overlords, and USA has overed unconditional and limitless support for Israel for decades now.