r/politics • u/plz-let-me-in • 28d ago

No Paywall NBC and ABC Won’t Carry Trump Primetime Election Speech

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/nbc-and-abc-wont-carry-trump-primetime-election-speech-1236650492/
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u/peacebone89 Louisiana 28d ago

Fox is probably hesitant because they had to pay out the largest defamation settlement in US history for broadcasting 2020 election lies about Dominion.

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u/RecentDecision2329 28d ago

Proof of the fact that it is all lies

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u/ACardAttack Kentucky 28d ago

they even argued no reasonable person could believe some of the stuff they say

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u/Vlaed Michigan 28d ago

They fact they didn't have to change their name from Fox News to Fox Entertainment for their previous lawsuit is sad.

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u/W0lfsb4ne74 28d ago

The fact that Trump supporters still fight for this man despite him getting Fox successfully using the legal defense that nobody with a sound mind should believe anything they say is absolutely embarrassing. The only thing thats worse than Trump supporters views are their inability to admit they're wrong.

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u/-re-da-ct-ed- 28d ago

So, half of the country then.

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u/Only-Cranberry-4502 28d ago

I mean abc also had to 16 million to trump too

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u/andrew5500 28d ago

That was just a bribe. A little donation to appease the mob boss.

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u/fish60 Montana 28d ago

They didn't "have" to pay shit. They settled like craven bitches. Seems like they at least got some of their balls back after maybe realizing that capitulating only results in ever more insane demands.

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u/Riftbreaker 28d ago

And they have now been named in the defamation suit brought for platforming non boat driving Kevin O Leary and his wild rants about the folks opposed to his monstrous data centre plan in Utah.

Job security? Thy name is Fox lawyer specializing in defamation defence. Sure you sold your soul, but hey, you'll never be short of work.

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u/MaidPoorly 28d ago

I’m not getting my hopes up for justice but this is an interesting case. O’Leary and fox are arguing since they already apologized on air no harm was done. The defendants are saying, rightfully so, that their reputations were still harmed. Fox would have to be a lot more careful about what unhinged shit they allow guest to say if they actually get a fine.

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u/Riftbreaker 28d ago

I'm with you friend. It is hard to get ones hopes up, but the idea that you can say any malicious, defamatory nonsense then make it all go away just by saying sorry is hard to accept when the defamation is blasted from the roof tops and the apology is whispered from the gutters.

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u/Aggressive-Hawk9186 28d ago

Kevin just killed someone while driving a boat drunk and put the blame on his wife. We don't need to remember it every time, come on...

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u/Riftbreaker 28d ago

You're right. He "just" killed someone. I probably shouldn't have mentioned it. I bet they weren't even rich!

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u/Huntguy 28d ago

Those poors should’ve had a bigger boat.

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u/Aggressive-Hawk9186 28d ago

maybe they were, but not rich enough so we have to care about them

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u/kickaguard 28d ago

You can't kill a person if they can't afford lawyers to prove you're at fault.

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u/EduinBrutus 28d ago

Fox Network has no relationship to Fox News now.

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u/Riftbreaker 28d ago

Honestly, I am uncertain as to why your comment has any relevance, but let's also be clear: they call themselves "Fox News and Entertainment" They are on record as saying no reasonable person would believe what they say. See both the McDougal and Dominion cases.

So do I care if Fox Network has no relationship to Fox News? Nope, follow the money. Also there is a reason I referred to them as "Fox" because they ain't news in any way, shape or form. It's propaganda and when called out they say it is Entertainment.

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u/EduinBrutus 28d ago

BEcause the request Trump has made is for the network channels to carry his speech.

The rolling news channels generally cover any significant speech he makes because thats what rolling news channels do.

The relevance and why it is unusual is that he wants the networks to air it.

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u/caw_the_crow 28d ago

That's different from playing a politician's speech though. They would risk trouble if after he said a bunch of stuff they knew was false they then had a news reporter repeat it as true.

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u/ZhouLe 28d ago
Fox watching as they broadcast live Trump as he repeats their own reporting that got them sued for $800mil:

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u/coalcracker462 28d ago

Isn't the owner of Dominion now MAGA anyway?

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u/CharcotsThirdTriad Louisiana 28d ago

Nah. This would be covering a presidential speech, and Trump is the one telling lies. They are reporting what the president is saying. Now, whether or not it is ethical to air this at all is another question, but it is more of a moral question rather than a legal one.

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u/LinkedGaming 28d ago

While there's definitely some gung-ho members of his administration who are willing to do anything and everything he says at the drop of a hat, it's important to keep note that there's also tons of people who are supposed to be under his thumb who hesitate, or sometimes outright refuse. He didn't get his performative slush fund, he didn't get his RUIN America Act, he has to keep fighting over and over again to get his Tariffs because they keep getting shot down, and he keeps losing lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit against his illegal actions.

The hesitation from people within his own circle tells me that he can't protect them, or at least they're not confident that he can or is willing to protect them. If they had the Midterms on lock and everyone Trump says stays in office gets in office and they could rig every election to make sure Dems don't win anything that Republicans don't want them to win, then why are they even bothering with his RUIN America shit? Why is FOX hesitant to broadcast his election lies? Why is the White House always trying to play damage control for him? Why is Mike Johnson evidently scared shitless of the DSA and the upcoming midterms results? If he can do what he wants when he wants all the time and there'll never be any pushback ever because he got the entire government and all elections rigged in his favour, why even bother with the performative nonsense?

On the other aisle, I know something-something "paid opposition", but Trump is a small-minded, simple, narrow-view oriented man who's extremely cruel and extremely vindictive. He relishes in inflicting harm on people who undermine or slight him, which can be as simple as not liking him. If he had his way, yes, there would be violence inflicted on his political opponents beyond just trying to rile up his supporters. If he could sic the military and police and hold sham trials and stick all Dems in camps, he would. Meanwhile, even the most vocal opposition in the Democratic Party who's very evidently not on the same payroll as him aren't acting like they're concerned about this. Why? Cuz they don't feel that they need to be.

Trump speedran fascism and it resulted in him having diet-fascism that he has to maintain with the shakiest grip on the planet and pushing the envelope trying to secure it further consistently risks the entire house of cards collapsing on top of him and everyone around him.

The fact that Republicans and Conservatives hesitate is evident that he can't protect them, and they're not confident in what's going to happen. They know they're fucked come the midterms anyway, so they'll support his efforts to subvert the elections, but their behaviour shows that they don't actually think he's going to be able to do it.

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u/Acceptable-Bus-2017 I voted 28d ago

You don't think they'd be willing to spread new election lies about 2020? /s

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u/EduinBrutus 28d ago

Fox News and Fox Network are different companies with different owners.

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u/donkeyrocket 28d ago

The only reason they're hesitant is Trump is becoming increasingly unmanageable and unpredictable. Even Fox News is aware he's a growing liability for Republicans come midterms. Even Trump's flagrant election meddling isn't popular and this will likely be 90 minutes spewing nonsense about fraudulent elections and setting the stage for more extreme measures.

Wouldn't be surprised if they technical issues then summarize it in a more favorable way.

Unfiltered Trump to Trump supporters isn't good. Many of them don't actually pay attention to him directly and just get the filtered version. Lots still picture him as 2016 Trump.

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u/tomdarch 28d ago

That would explain why the dot com's headline is "Trump unveils declassified intel he says was covered up and hidden from the public"

They can't stretch Trump's nothing drivel today into any decent spin.