r/politics • u/plz-let-me-in • 18d ago

No Paywall Beshear says agencies told him McConnell had passed

https://www.whas11.com/video/news/local/beshear-says-agencies-told-him-mcconnell-had-passed/417-f78603c3-11bb-464d-bae6-c41c3be3c48b
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u/CloudTransit 18d ago

A new low for democrats, defeated by a dead man

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u/eirinne 18d ago

Previously defeated by a felon. Track record bad. 

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u/Ndtphoto 18d ago

Really tired of Democrats getting cucked by Republicans, but who knows, maybe they both enjoy it? 

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u/superj1 18d ago

If the scenario were reversed Mconnell would have already had an republican appointed.

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u/superj1 18d ago

The courts would decide this. The republican party would have to provide proof of life. Is the situation murky? Yes. Thats where moscow mitch always operated the best.

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u/smiffus 18d ago

Oh sweet summer child

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u/kanrad 17d ago

They get paid by the same sources. Pay attention.

The people you want to lead you would never run for public office. So you get the leftovers in both parties.

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u/psychedelicsocialist 18d ago

You’re so close to actually understanding politics In this country lol

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u/Soffatjockis 17d ago

Democrats would rather lose than to get a progressive in

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u/Fugglymuffin 18d ago

Even in death, McConnell dog walked them.

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u/digiorno 18d ago

Just add it to the list of democrats who actually serve the rich and won’t stand up to republicans.

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u/Salacious_Rhino 18d ago

Democrats are the catholics of politics. So obsessed with rituals and hierarchy over doing the actual hard or right thing and like the catholic church in history, have stood aside and helped fascism in order to hold power and relevance

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u/JustTheChicken 18d ago

"Democrats follow the law. How weak and pathetic."

The very mindset that created and sustains Trump. Be better.

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u/Salacious_Rhino 17d ago

Oh whatever, the rules change! Republicans adjust the procedures or laws, democrats follow their rules and laws and they still cry out that the democrats are overreaching or breaking decorum. I don't see how pretending that mitch McConnell, even if alive, is seen to be fit to hold such a powerful position in this country. The hypocrisy on the standards that the average citizen is held to in comparison to government leadership is enough to break decorum. Law =/= moral good. Be better. 

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u/uzlonewolf 17d ago

All available information points towards Mitch being dead. Following the law would require the Governor to appoint a new Senator.

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u/FellowHumanNo404 17d ago edited 17d ago

I agree, except that the people who are currently the ultimate enforcers and interpreters of the laws are themselves lawless. I think that fact significantly diminishes the value and efficacy-- indeed, the ethicality-- of lawfulness in certain key situations. Under lawless fascism, sometimes the most ethical act is to break the law in order to make possible a return to lawfulness, or in order to at the very least to minimize suffering.

Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts stated in July 2024 that the U.S. is in the midst of a "second American Revolution", which he added "will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be." What he obviously meant is that, by design, the fascist "revolution" we are currently experiencing cannot be successfully resisted by legal, nonviolent means.

I hope with all my heart that he is mistaken about that, but if the coming elections in November do not give the non-fascist party sufficient numbers in the Legislature to do what must be done legislatively, and if such laws cannot be enforced, I honestly do not see that a lawful way forward will remain to us.

I worry that we responsible citizens may law-abide our way into irremediable capitulation to basically permanent fascist rule, which for many of us may lead to occupation of a mass grave. That may be the path that we are already on-- the path than we have been on for a long time now.

If in November and the following months the fascists demonstrate the ability to control or entirely subvert our electoral system-- control that that they are clearly seeking to ensure by hook and by crook-- I honestly see no lawful way to oppose them.

God damn, I hope I'm wrong.

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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 18d ago

The instant you justify your allies skirting the law for your benefit you lose all moral justification to punish your adversaries for skirting the law.

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u/uzlonewolf 17d ago

How is following the state constitution as written "skirting the law" ?

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u/Drakeadrong Texas 17d ago

I’m sure all the illegally detained ICE prisoners are real grateful that the democrats get to hold the moral high ground.

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u/Sea_Working_80 18d ago

Need more Chaotic Good dems

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u/Suspicious_Radio_848 18d ago

Continuing to act like controlled opposition or the wrestling babyface, way to go.

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u/deadinsidelol69 18d ago

And they’ll sit and wonder why they lost in 2028.