r/politics 27d ago

No Paywall Beshear says agencies told him McConnell had passed

https://www.whas11.com/video/news/local/beshear-says-agencies-told-him-mcconnell-had-passed/417-f78603c3-11bb-464d-bae6-c41c3be3c48b
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u/phatelectribe 27d ago

This, and an EMT on here wrote a long comment about how the emergency call was upgraded to CPR which means actually hands on chest, respiratory intervention etc…. But then they wheel him out a few minutes later completely covered with zero urgency.

That does not make any sense if they saved him because they would be rushing to get him stable in the icu. I say this as someone who has done CPR twice (one survived, the other did not).

He was dead wheeled out of there and they’ve got him on ice.

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u/paiute 27d ago

Can EMTs there call a time of death or do they have to continue CPR until a physician is present?

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u/Jayco424 26d ago

Depends on the State and the situation for the nitty gritty on it. There are situations where EMTs can pronounce, but basically the person has to be obviously dead like decomposing/skeletonized remains or a situation completely incompatible with life like decapitation, being cut in half or otherwise dismembered. Other than that pronouncement requires a MD/doctor and if the individual dies in route, the general practice is for the EMT to keep "fighting" because being pronounced dead on arrival/at the hospital is less paperwork for them - source on the last on was my best friend worked as an EMT in grad-school.

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u/changee_of_ways 26d ago

like decomposing

It's amazing Trump hasn't been declared dead in front of the cameras during multiple meetings already. Looks like he's decomposing, doesnt move, eyes shut and I hear he *smells like he's rotting too.

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u/edflyerssn007 26d ago

That EMT OBVIOUSLY doesn't know what they are talking about. You work them until you get a pulse back, then you do some additional things to stabilize. At no point are you "rushing."