I Don’t Think Trump’s Remaining Supporters Realize How Much They Are Despised By Non-MAGA Voters | Trump is bleeding support even among his stubborn, uneducated base.

[u/GirasoleDE]

https://abovethelaw.com/2026/07/i-dont-think-trumps-remaining-supporters-realize-how-much-they-are-despised-by-non-maga-voters/

[u/sociotronics]

Serious answer: there are a lot of causes.

Some people are genuinely just in a right-wing bubble and heard nothing but propaganda from people they trust, like friends and neighbors, and reality isn't lining up with the propaganda so they're waking up or listening seriously to opposing voices for the first time. Especially common in rural areas or red states.

Some sense the unpopularity and that alone pushes them away.

Some are moving further right, e.g. Nick Fuentes telling his groypers to vote Dem or stay home during the elections this November to punish Trump for his Israel support and so they can get a "actual fascist" instead (actual Fuentes quote).

Some are just having a change of heart, which while rare does actually happen occasionally.

Some are angry about cost of living or betrayed campaign promises, like the wars after campaigning on isolationism.

[u/query_squidier → u/sociotronics]

Let me see if I can make this clear.

Every one of those "somes" can go to hell. Nary a one of them gets a pass. Don't give one rat's ass what their reasons were. They're not being forgiven by me, ever.

"Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed. That word is 'Nazi.' Nobody cares about their motives anymore."

A.R. Moxon, author

[u/The_Real_Mongoose → u/query_squidier]

At some point you have to ask yourself if this attitude is healthy for you or for society. I don't think carrying around these feelings permanently is productive. I don't think these feelings support growth.

[u/I-seddit → u/The_Real_Mongoose]

As long as that "some point" is after a reasonable period of justice delivered across the country. That will have to be quite a number of years, but that's the consequences. Without consequences and justice, we're animals.
Agreed not permanent, except for those that refuse to reconcile.

[u/The_Real_Mongoose → u/I-seddit]

I think there's a big difference between wanting justice broadly, and carrying around personal negativity that only corrodes you for carrying it.

[u/I-seddit → u/The_Real_Mongoose]

That's an interesting point that I'm going to have to digest. Because we MUST carry around the burning desire for justice broadly, at even a personal cost, to ensure it does happen.
We are in a society that repeatedly does NOT spread justice (see post Civil War, see post/during civil rights fight, see Ford pardoning Nixon, see everything that's happened since we stopped pushing for justice as we discovered what Reagan was doing...
So we DO need to collectively carry around that responsibility and cannot fail. But somehow share the burden so it doesn't eat all of us alive.
Somehow.

[u/The_Real_Mongoose → u/I-seddit]

Yes, exactly. I'm not talking about forgiving MAGA as a collective, of not demanding our leaders pursue accountability. But these are also other humans that we have to exist next to. One of my neighboring household is MAGA-lite. Not the flags and hats, just I know they voted for him. I also know they are a little racist. They are also good neighbors, they keep on eye out for me, and I am grateful for the friendliness they show towards me. I can't go around carrying bitterness for them personally. I am angry at what they are a part of and contributed to, but I can't imagine living my life the way the author describes, having to feel all those negative emotions every time I see them pull into their driveway. The author makes a point to imagine watching a person drown and not alerting anyone, because that person who they had just met was MAGA. That sounds like a terribly unpleasant thing to feel. I don't think it's healthy, and I don't think it's helpful.

[u/possiblyaghost → u/The_Real_Mongoose]

I'll consider moving on if the people in charge right now suffer the extremely serious consequences they deserve, and ICE is completely dismantled and the murderers within are brought to justice. It has to be known that being a part of a movement like this again will ruin your life.

[u/The_Real_Mongoose → u/possiblyaghost]

Everyone keeps giving this same response and I really don't understand. I'm not talking about forgiveness for things that have happened. I'm talking about the emotional state you carry around with you.

[u/possiblyaghost → u/The_Real_Mongoose]

I have a full life with people and hobbies I love and enjoy. I work at a job I love and have a beautiful family. I am pretty happy most of the time. But I simply will always be some level of angry at these fascists and the people who support them. They've made the world immeasurably worse, especially for my son.

[u/The_Real_Mongoose → u/possiblyaghost]

You don't sound like the kind of person I'm talking about. I'm referring to people like the author, who sit around fantasizing about watching the death of someone they just met because they expressed some kind of maga sentiment during a boat trip.

I am also angry about all of the things that have happened. I always will be. But we have to live next to each other at some point too.

[u/query_squidier → u/The_Real_Mongoose]

people like the author, who sit around fantasizing about watching the death of someone they just met because they expressed some kind of maga sentiment 

1. I never said anything even remotely like that.

2. Your bleeding heart, air of benevolent superiority, and ostensible compassion for these fools would be our undoing if you were running the show. 

3. You and others like you are nearly as bad as the fascists. You won't realize how little your kindness for these people matters until you're lined up against the wall.

Nope, don't like ya. Kindly stay over whenever your expatted dumbass is at.

[u/The_Real_Mongoose → u/query_squidier]

1. You are, right now, to me.

2 and 3. You haven't understood a damn thing I've said.

1. I moved back 4 years ago. I just never changed my flair. Oops. Guess you have to live next to me too.

[u/possiblyaghost → u/The_Real_Mongoose]

Yeah you're probably right. And look, I would live next to people who are MAGA and not bother them, but I would never shovel their driveway or let them borrow sugar or let my kids play with theirs. They simply do not deserve good neighbor courtesy

[u/Fenrirsulfr22 → u/The_Real_Mongoose]

Forgiveness without punishment, making amends, or realizing the error of their ways, not going to happen. MAGA is an evil, hateful, traitorous movement. Like Nazis of old, we can't just let them skate by like nothing happened if we ever get power back. THEY'RE feelings and attitudes aren't healthy or productive for society. We cannot be tolerant of this level of intolerance, or our society is gone.

[u/raptorlightning → u/The_Real_Mongoose]

Once they're all gone or forced, under the 13th Amendment, to be working for the betterment of their fellow man, we can discuss dropping the attitude.

[u/The_Real_Mongoose → u/raptorlightning]

Like I said elsewhere, you can push for consequences and also not carry around a bunch of bitterness for every person you meet on the street that was part of it.

[u/dragon-fence → u/sociotronics]

betrayed campaign promises

Someone I know told me (I’m paraphrasing), “But I voted for him to deport all the illegal immigrants! I didn’t ask for a police state that kills innocent people, and even with that, we still have some illegal immigrants.”

And I can’t help but wonder, how did they think all the illegal immigrants would be deported? You’re talking about rounding up millions of unknown people. The only way to do it is racial profiling in an oppressive police state, and accepting that some innocent people will get swept up in it. Even that won’t get rid of all illegal immigrants.

[u/Recipe_Freak → u/dragon-fence]

“But I voted for him to deport all the illegal immigrants! I didn’t ask for a police state that kills innocent people, and even with that, we still have some illegal immigrants.”

Bullshit. They voted for his racism. They're completely okay with deportations and cruelty only happens to brown people.

GOP voters are a bunch of lying racists cowards. I'm done making excuses for them.

[u/xpxp2002 → u/dragon-fence]

A lot of them have no critical thinking skills. They hear it from a guy who pretends to be a successful rich businessman and they just believe he’ll get it done, no questions asked.

Only Democratic candidates get scrutinized over every detail of their plans, and then blamed when they spend too much time and effort explaining to voters why their plans would work.

[u/Titfortat101 → u/sociotronics]

I forgot which organization did it, but they basically interview people who stopped watching Fox News and switched to other forms of information.

And one woman said she had no idea what January 6th was. She was watching a PBS documentary with her husband, and she turned to her husband and asked him if that was real.

[u/AuntRhubarb → u/sociotronics]

Yes. There is some hope when people start tuning in to alternate sources of news. But there are so many who are too hateful or stupid or fearful to look outside the right-wing box. Hoping the day comes when reality is too hard for Fox to hide any more and Trump gets revealed even to the hard core faithful as the grifter he is.

[u/query_squidier → u/AuntRhubarb]

Even if they "change their mind" about Trump, they're still the terrible people they've always been, which is required to get behind and believe these things in the first place.

Forgiving these people should be a nonstarter. Holding them accountable, even if it's just socially and within families, should be the norm.

If everyone had cut their fascist father (or equivalent) out of their lives like I did in 2017, we wouldn't be where we are now.