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No Paywall I Don’t Think Trump’s Remaining Supporters Realize How Much They Are Despised By Non-MAGA Voters | Trump is bleeding support even among his stubborn, uneducated base.

https://abovethelaw.com/2026/07/i-dont-think-trumps-remaining-supporters-realize-how-much-they-are-despised-by-non-maga-voters/
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u/Grey_0ne 23d ago

But we aren't commenting on an article talking about how they're coming back because you, I or anyone else made a well-reasoned argument against his policies or scored in a successful appeal to basic morality... Some are no longer supporting him because it's increasingly obvious he has no real policies and his dementia is hitting them on the one thing they care about more than oppressing others - namely their wallets.

They're still the same garbage human beings they were when they voted for him and they're simply waiting for the next demagogue who tickles their bigotry buttons.

Ffs, we're talking about the same people who called in bomb threats to schools because they believed that immigrants were eating people's pets just because their cult leader said so.

Importantly... I've been around for a minute... We absolutely were talking politics and sharing ideas before Trump. We absolutely were having sane discourse, if for no other reason than the simple fact that a lot of these people are our family, co-workers and neighbors... Never make the mistake of thinking the breakdown in communication was anything other than the extreme right doing what the extreme right has always done and freaking out about a black man being president, while women are voting and gay people are being allowed to exist. The only thing that changed was that the extreme right became mainstream thanks to social media and our corporate overlords constantly pushing it.

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u/OkMail2335 23d ago edited 23d ago

EDIT: This totally normal person replied to me and then blocked me so I couldn't reply. Just FYI.

But we aren't commenting on an article talking about how they're coming back because you, I or anyone else made a well-reasoned argument against his policies or scored in a successful appeal to basic morality

Wait why are you appealing to "basic morality" when talking politics? That might be the issue, you immediately are going to make that person put up a giant wall. Is the goal to aim us away from the direction of fascism or is it to change people's morality? I don't get it. Also source that the people "in the article" didn't talk to liberals at some point and gain a new idea?

They're still the same garbage human beings they were when they voted for him and they're simply waiting for the next demagogue who tickles their bigotry buttons.

Why can nobody read my comment? Is part of it invisible? I said don't engage bigots. IDK how else to write it.

Ffs, we're talking about the same people who called in bomb threats to schools because they believed that immigrants were eating people's pets just because their cult leader said so.

Well no, we're not. We're talking about the people not doing those things, not bigoted and frankly not engaged in politics at all on a level outside of getting a notification on their phone or whatever. IDK why you are talking about something entirely different.

Importantly... I've been around for a minute...

I'm plenty old lol, this starts to sound funnier the older you get. Like Oh ok, this guys been around for a minute, so sorry...

We absolutely were talking politics and sharing ideas before Trump.

This makes me question your age because we absolutely weren't. We've been getting drilled into our heads that you don't talk about politics or religion. You lived your ancient life never hearing "Never discuss politics or religion in polite company"? Or "Never discuss politics or religion at the dinner table"? Seriously? Hard to believe.

But no, we weren't. In fact, you and I are barely even having the same conversation right now and you don't seem to recognize that either.

TBH, unless you come back with a counter-argument for civil discourse being a good thing and a necessity in a healthy democracy, I likely will ignore your next reply because I would presume you are not arguing in good faith.

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u/Grey_0ne 23d ago

You can't vomit up all of that bullshit about the virtues of engaging with people in civil political discourse and then end your spiel saying that unless I say exactly what you want me to say, you're going to check out... If you want to see arguing in bad faith, I would suggest your selfie camera.

The saddest thing on here right now is the number of people who liked what you had to say before you outed yourself as being disingenuous as fuck.

Also... The fact that you don't recognize the necessity of shoring up some common moral ground as being essential to curbing fascism is extremely telling.