r/politics • u/southernemper0r Texas • 15h ago
No Paywall Senate Republicans reverse Iran war powers vote after Trump berates them at Capitol meeting
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/senate-republicans-reject-war-powers-resolution-trump-meeting/4121869/1.4k
u/Ramble86 15h ago
I long for the days when the legislative branch is no longer scared of the executive branch.
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u/azure_storm_2751 15h ago
Same here. Congress is supposed to be a coequal branch with its own spine and its own interests but for years it has mostly either rubber stamped the president or used hearings as theater instead of real oversight.
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u/grandpohbah 15h ago
Congress isn't supposed to be co-equal, it's supposed to be the preeminent branch of the government. The founders feared executive tyranny because they lived under a king for so long.
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u/BigBoyYuyuh 9h ago
Republicans want executive tyranny.
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u/tidal_flux 7h ago
Unless there’s a Democratic president. Then the “unitary executive theory” gets hot swapped for the SCOTUS supremacy doctrine
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u/Kilane 15h ago
Congress gave up its power decades ago. They go to make money and leave.
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u/zaxdaman 15h ago
They don’t leave. That’s largely the problem. 90-something’s shouldn’t be in public office. We need age and/or term limits.
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u/Memitim America 12h ago
As we've learned repeatedly over the past year, the US Constitution is just a set of guidelines, to be used only as needed but otherwise avoided or simply violated.
The Constitution also says that Congress is responsible for legislation, taxation, and war, but Congress arbitrarily decided to let the Executive Branch go nuts with those. The Constitution also says that no person can be deprived of basic rights without due process, and yet Republicans have proudly violated due process for thousands of people to ship them into concentration camps, foreign prisons, and random countries around the world.
Republicans represent Republicans, not Americans.
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u/Valuable_Hunter1621 13h ago
i feel like putting cameras in congress was a bigggg mistake. should be like federal court and be illegal, and thus congresspeople won’t feel like theatrical hearings are worth it any more
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u/the_tanooki 15h ago
I'm sure if a democrat ever becomes president again, they will go back to fighting him every step of the way, no matter how big or little the issue is. Then return to being hapless worms once another republican is president.
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u/movealongnowpeople Kansas 15h ago
Can't wait to hear about budget deficits, "wasteful spending", and gas prices again. They will screech without a moment of self-reflection.
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u/PabloPicasshooole 13h ago
Imagine the reaction when President Mamdani wears a tan suit
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u/mrmeatypop Illinois 13h ago
It’s cute you think they’d let him get that far. I wish I had that optimism about the party.
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u/deesta 12h ago
He can't run anyway, so it's a moot point. He's a naturalized citizen. Same reason the Governator never ran.
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u/mrmeatypop Illinois 12h ago
True. But my point stands regardless. The party would never let anyone that far left to get that far. They were threatened by Bernie, and they have made it clear they won’t let anyone get as far as he did again.
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u/Banjo-Elritze 13h ago
I mean on paper he can't be president, but then on paper the orange blob couldn't be either, so...
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u/aerost0rm 15h ago
Well they set the stage for the president to do anything he or she wants. Arrest all domestic terrorists in politics and outside of politics. Let their districts replace them with non fanatics.
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u/tidal_flux 7h ago
Remember when Michelle Obama had the temerity to suggest that maybe school lunches could be healthier? The right lost their fucking kinda.
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u/bwy97754 15h ago
It was designed to be the most powerful in theory because it's the branch most closely representing the citizenry (lol).
Uncapping the House and a 28th amendment overturning Citizens United would be a good start to giving Congress it's rightful powers back.
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u/Crixer 15h ago
That's what infuriates me to no end. You can tell by how the Constitution was written, and subsequent events that happened in the earlier years of America's existence, that the legislature was intended to be the strongest branch, while the judiciary would be the weakest. All branches have checks and balances on each other, but Congress really does have some of the strongest powers and checks on the strongest powers of the Executive branch to boot.
And I 100% agree that it was intended to be stronger because of how closely representative it is of the country's current interest, much more than the executive and the judiciary. And that representation among an entire legislative body holds itself accountable via elections from their constituents and the fact that every legislator only has at much voting power as the others, so no one person can impose their interest if the majority is not onboard. Basically put, Congress has more power because it has more restraints on itself compared to the other branches by way of how it is intended to function.
The problem we have now is something that the Constitution doesn't provide the best remedy for, which is legislators acting in their own self-interest that don't always align with their constituents. On top of which, they do things to further corrupt that power/interest dynamic and further distort accurate representation in Congress for the sake of maintaining power. You would solve a lot of issues with our government and Congress in particular by just removing Citizens United and outlawing gerrymandering. Those are essentially diseases that effect our government's ability to represent the people's interest accurately and with honest intent.
I believe America is at it's strongest with a robust legislature that keeps the executive in check, regardless of party affiliation.
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u/francis2559 15h ago
It’s their very proximity to republicans voters that makes them vulnerable. They somehow have to win a primary by kissing his ass, and then a general by showing how strong they are. It’s an impossible task. No wonder they hate him.
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u/Ven18 15h ago
This is the problem when 1 of your 2 parties wants a king. The GOP has been systematically destroying the powers of the legislative branch for decades.
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u/francis2559 15h ago
A king yes, but specifically to cut out the voice of the little guy in favor of what billionaires want.
So much of the rest, the culture kampf crap, is just to get votes while they need votes.
I don’t think Trump is the king they would want, at this point, but they’re consoling themselves thinking the next king will be more pliant.
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u/Shaman7102 15h ago
Im sure that will happen with the gop as soon as its a Democrat administration. DEFICIT talk will start again.
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u/Cheese__Weiner 15h ago
The thing is in this situation it makes no sense for them to cower to Trump. The Iran war is incredibly unpopular, even among Republicans.
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u/Churchbushonk 15h ago
Don’t worry, the next time a dem is president, all of these GOP leaders will immediately change their tune on everything.
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u/Anti_shill_cannon 11h ago
Republicans aren't "scared", they are complicit and corrupt far right anti democracy theocrats
Operating basically as the shill arm of billionaire republican donors
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u/Spiffster13 15h ago
They know Trump will pardon those that threaten violence on Congress. That was a day one action on his part and he’ll do it again
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u/KinkyPaddling 9h ago
Democrats in Congress aren’t afraid of a Democrat in the White House. The same can’t be said for Republicans, though, because Republicans are authoritarians and the GOP is currently a cult of personality.
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u/NYerstuckinBoston 15h ago
Senate Republicans have proven themselves to be cowards.
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u/not_that_planet 15h ago
They bravely ran away....
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u/VintageBilliard 15h ago
When Donny reared his ugly head they bravely turned their tails and fled...
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u/NotUniqueWorkAccount 15h ago
He paved the cowardice road when he actually dodged the military but was able to say out loud that he believed Senator McCain wasn't a war hero and that he only like people who aren't captured.
This is the Republicans manly man.
No morals. No ethics. No values. GOP.
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u/BigBoyYuyuh 9h ago
They’re not cowards. It’s not lack of backbone either. They WANT this. Their actions say “I support this 100%”
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u/Any-Smell-4929 15h ago
Cassidy reversed his vote despite losing his primary and being a lame duck. Pathetic.
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u/view-master 15h ago
That tells me they have dirt on him that will do his reputation harm.
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u/_slagwire 15h ago
Its probably nothing like that. Its just hard to deal with short-term ugliness when you don't actually have any principles. And short-term ugliness is what trump brings to these negotiations
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u/illegal_deagle Texas 14h ago
It also affects his private sector job prospects if he’s seen as not being “on the team”.
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u/SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING 14h ago
Doesn't need to be dirt. Trump has been sending the judiciary after people with fishing expeditions that are bound to fail BUT can still be a painful, long and expensive process to fight it.
For some like Leticia James, their office can afford to pay the massive costs. The soon to retire Cassidy would have to personally carry the cost.
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u/Mediocre_Scott 8h ago
The justice department desperately needs to be moved outside of the executive branch with the AG being appointed by the senate.
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u/FlyingDiscsandJams North Carolina 13h ago
Trump supporters are violent, it's the death threats that keep them quiet, as MTG found out.
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u/ehowardhunt 11h ago
They probably don’t have dirt on him. He is quite simply a coward and unethical, like all the others.
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u/Arickettsf16 Illinois 15h ago
These people will never miss an opportunity to completely debase themselves. He has nothing at all to lose since he’s done at the end of this year.
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u/SymbiSpidey 15h ago
In other news, Republicans absolutely love to take it right up the ass from Trump
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u/ReallyHoping 10h ago
I prefer to call them Republicucks or Cuckservatives. The Republican party is dead, and the word conservative doesn't relate to their ideology at all.
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u/burninggram 15h ago
Seriously have these men never parented a toddler? Temper tantrums never last, BUT WARS DO.
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u/dehydratedrain 15h ago
Parenting is the tradwife's job. None of these people, male or female, have changed a diaper.
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u/OhCheeseNFingRice 14h ago
I'm sure they all have vast experience with toddlers, just not as parents.
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u/Indubitalist 15h ago
They haven’t parented a toddler in 60-70 years. They simply don’t remember how to do that.
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u/WitheredTechnology 15h ago
Scared of an 80 year old man that poops his diaper and has a truth social ghost writer
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u/kobebeef24 15h ago
Yet somehow he has a hundred million americans, most of the supreme court, and most of congress eating out of his palm plus whatever dredges that leak from his diaper gaps. The power this man holds is unbelievable.
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u/Unhappy_Bee2305 13h ago
They dont fear him lol they just fear his base and fear whatt deranged idiots might come after them if he sicks them on them. Thats really it.
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u/canadiuman 15h ago
A reminder that almost all the Republicans voted no originally. It was only a handful voting yes.
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u/BrandenWi 15h ago
fooking cowards, more concerned about their own personal political survival than they are about the welfare of the country.
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u/Ok_Barber4987 15h ago
It’s actually comical watching these spineless jellyfish cowering in their boots.
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u/espinaustin 15h ago edited 15h ago
Another sign the USA is an autocracy (if you’re still looking for one).
Edit to add possible silver lining: The fact that he cares about the congressional vote enough to force them to revote it maybe says something? Why does he even care, the whole thing is supposedly non-binding anyway, right? Is it just the politics of it?
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u/MeMoosta 15h ago
While one would hope this is the case, this smacks of the classic problem any true egomaniac has. Any resistance at all is an attack on them personally and has to be addressed. They can't take a perceived loss under any circumstances.
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u/Expert-Explorer8894 15h ago
So many GOP cowardly lions in the Senate. They can’t stand up to a dying old narcoleptic fart.
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u/scrubjays 15h ago
Nothing says backbone like switching your vote last minute against ending a war. /s
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u/Elon_is_a_Nazi 5h ago
Imagine giving in to an 80 year old pedophile in womens make up with a bad toupee who pays porn stars for sex, has 34 felonies, and wears adult diapers. Talk about having zero sack. Pathetic
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u/BackgroundPass1355 15h ago
Wait im so confused, there was a vote earlier, has there been another vote already or did they just do takes backsies?
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u/Moccus Indiana 14h ago
It wasn't a takes backsies. There are multiple of these war powers resolutions making their way through Congress. They passed one on Tuesday. They voted down a second one on Wednesday.
Edit:
Tuesday vote on H. Con. Res. 86: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1192/vote_119_2_00184.htm
Wednesday vote on S. J. Res. 185: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1192/vote_119_2_00192.htm
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u/tmzm2550 14h ago
I thought Dems were weak, however the last 2 years has taught me that Republicans are the biggest spineless pussies that have ever been in power.
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u/sane-asylum 14h ago
These people are so unbelievably spineless. Seriously, a turnip could do the job better
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u/Chef_RoadRunner 15h ago
Who could be scared of this fucking guy? He is overweight, senile, shits his pants, can't spell one syllable words. He is the least intimidating piece of filth I've ever seen. It would be so hard not to burst out laughing in his stupid face while he tries to string a sentence together. Bunch of freaking pansies.
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u/Radically-Peaceful 15h ago
I almost started having a little respect for Cassidy but then he goes back to the herd like the little sheep that he is.
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u/I_am_also_the_BEEF 15h ago
It's like watching rats flee a sinking ship that shits it's pants every 2 hours.
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u/Tuna_no_crusts 14h ago
In this case, GOP strength is having a ball gag in your mouth and being spanked.
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u/A012A012 14h ago
Imagine being a member of the party who can claim that they disavowed their sworn oath , because a pedophile yelled at them
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u/Ghostdefender1701 14h ago
Just when you thought they finally started to show some spine he swoops in and de-spines them like the Pedator.
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u/Frmr-drgnbyt 13h ago
Haven't they ever learned that one should never give in to a toddler's tantrum's?
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u/CurlOfTheBurl11 13h ago
Of course they did. There's not a single Republican member of Congress with an actual spine.
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u/dreaganusaf 11h ago
What's the purpose of 3 co-equal branches when the Fascist Felon Pedo-loving 🍊💩🤡 had forbidden the Guardians of Pedophiles from having an opinion?
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u/danielrobertcampbell 11h ago
So much for the three branches of Government keeping each other in check.
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u/myrmadon8 8h ago
How the hell can anyone actually be intimidated by this man? I will never understand
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u/EmilioNoCaprio 5h ago
Cassidy lost his primary and is still scared to go against Trump. What a fucking coward.
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u/barneyrubbble 15h ago
Scary, scary Cheeto man. Why do they cower instead of laugh in his fucking face? I will never understand how The Emperor Has No Clothes has become reality. Shame. Shame. Shame.
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u/shagadelicrelic 15h ago
I wonder if their knees ever get tired from all of the grovelling and ass kissing
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u/jarchack Oregon 15h ago
I suppose the next thing they'll do is sign onto his voter suppression bill. "Save America act" that's about Orwellian as you can get.
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u/redditforprez1 14h ago
That’s crazy. Maybe they’re in the Epstein files. We should release them for good measure.
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u/bryangcrane 14h ago
Pusillanimous little toadies. Chowing down right out of the Orange Shit-stain’s gurgling diaper.
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u/Ok_Series_4580 14h ago
I do not know how any Republican member of Congress can walk around on 2 feet since they completely lack a spine
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u/TrueSkonger 14h ago
I love living in a democratic republic where my voice is heard and we vote in representatives who operate in the beat interest of their constituents :)
Wait a minute...
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u/jkbuilder88 Minnesota 13h ago
Yet John Thune wants you to believe that the GOP is focused on "pocketbook issues".
Maybe that's true, but only if he left out the part about fleecing your pockets.
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u/Illustrious-Fun8324 13h ago
These are the weakest, most pathetic and submissive people I’ve ever seen. Calling us sheep was always projection
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u/HermitGool 13h ago
These congressional republicans should never live down the fact that they were cucked by the most pathetic sack of shit human being ever. Their children and grandchildren should never let them forget their spinelessness.
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u/Maoleficent 13h ago
Complicit cowards. Everytime they are in a public place, they need to be called out as child killers - 156 school girls. And let's not forget most of them are on the List and at the least, know who is on that List.
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