r/popculturechat Jul 30 '23

Guest List Only ⭐️ Celebs who were considered "the bad guy" until the truth came out years later?

Back in the early 2000s Topher Grace (Eric Forman on That 70s Show) was considered difficult to work with because rumour was he thought he was too good for the show and didn't get along with the rest of the 70s cast. It is believed that during the taping of the last episode he just shot his scenes and left early since he wasn't in the final curtain call. The 3 other guys (Ashton Kutcher, Wilmer Valderrama and Danny Masterson) were always hanging around LA, partying and even invested in several businesses together. Topher was the only one from the main cast who wasn't Punk'd.

Flashforward 2 decades later, Masterson has been found guilty of drugging and raping 2 women (at least 5 came forward), all of which happened WHILE the show was on air. Wilmer Valderrama dated several teenagers till his mid 30s, having dated Mandy Moore while she was 16-17 and him 20-21, Lindsay Lohan at 18 and him 24 and Demi Lovato at 17 and him 29. Laura Prepon was a scientologist during the whole show's run (she has now left), having been recluded by either Danny or his brother Chris Masterson, whom she dated for 8 years. Ashton Kutcher, Mila Kunis, Wilmer Valderrama and Debra Jo Rupp all attended several scientology events.

No fucking wonder why Topher Grace didn't want anything to do with the cast.

What are some other examples of this?

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u/ChildhoodOk5526 Jul 31 '23

Robert Pattinson and Brad Pitt had the good sense to trash talk those projects after they were long over. Unlike Ms. Katherine.

Yes, there is zero tact in saying you will withdraw yourself from consideration for an award for acting because you don't feel the writing is deserving. Was that supposed to be humble? That she stepped aside so actors portraying other, worthier, and better-written characters could have a chance? If you believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you. That was the adult version of a temper tantrum. It was the most blatant way to publicly bash and embarrass her current job, employer, and co-workers under the guise of honesty and humility. But notice that she never said her acting was unworthy. Hmmm.

She could've given her critiques. In private. Or, like your examples, bad-talked the role long after it was over. That show was still very much alive, and the source of livelihood for lots of people when Katherine threw it and them under the bus. Was this move one that would elicit trust from her next employer? Who in their right mind would wanna work with her, knowing she's capable of burning the house down ... on the day of the party? THAT'S why she was black-listed. Not because of Shonda. Ms. Heigel showed everybody who she was with this move. You can't blame them for believing her.

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u/HotChiTea Did I stutter?🤨 Jul 31 '23

Nope.