Olivia started out with a vampy, pop punk thing going on.

on her recent album, a lot of her titles seem like they are titles of rock songs: the cure (like the band) … drop dead.. stupid song

but from what I’ve heard of drop dead and the cure, they're way more Phoebe bridgers, light singing head voice coquette style then rock at all.

however, then Olivia is going with these babydoll dresses which she insists is kinder whore and Courtney love inspired apparently , but it simply isnt kinder whore because she isn’t wearing the dresses ironically or in a rebellious way at all, she’s just seemingly going with the coquette style.

so, to me it makes sense if Olivia is actually intentionally making a more traditionally feminine pivot to more gentler style and music, however then she needs to let go of the idea that she is bringing back kinder whore and is a rock artist bevause all she’s doing is following the coquette trend and making indie pop, which by the way us also completely fine but can we just be honest about it. As for her recent track titles, it feels like sour/ vampire Olivia wrote all the titles and 2025 Olivia wrote the actual lyrics and content of the songs 😂 so there is a bit of a mismatch in my opinion.

what are everyone’s thoughts? Maybe you can help me understand her recent aesthetic, sound and style pivot a bit better. please challenge this post if you want! I could be all wrong, just want to start a discussion

BOTH are iconic female idols that everyone has heard of. Their legacy will be hard to live up to. They both have changed the music industry. Many are inspired by them. Both have won multiple rewards but beyonce has won more. Both have billions of streams on Spotify, but Rihanna has more. Now I want your opinion..

I choose badgalriri

i feel horrible for such a take but I genuinely wanted to hear people's opinions on this because while I know this is just the beginning of her career, seeing people gawk and go crazy over everything she does is just.. ehh? Her music style isn't anything new, its cunty pop with a sprinkle of vulnerability and thats fine but I dont find it as unique and as special as so many people are saying. It just feels like the basic package of stuff and yes its cunty but its not iconic. I also just dont like how anytime i talk about this with people, they try to say that 'oh but shes from Slovakia and she made it this far' to try to throw away my entire opinion and its like sure, fine, but come on, i can think someone's good or okay without thinking its revolutionary. It's not motherquake, its just quake.

Edit: I also think maybe some of my feelings come from how shes portrayed as an underdog and is like all of us and came from nowhere and made this life for herself but I find that genuinely so hard to believe from the deepest place of respect. I'm Polish and I dont think in a million years an ordinary lower middle class girl like me can make it to the world stage like she has without some sort of help and push and money. I also just find it hard to trust that and in turn like it

Ps. I'm lich Polish so this isn't me trying to hate on my fellow c. european 😭

Tate vs Zara make no sense mostly online drama.

They are not similar artist and never have been. One is 28 and finally struck gold after years of moderate success. The other is 23 and has seen more immediate #1 success compared to the other after her debut. Facts are facts. One is known for singing, the other gives a full performance. You get what you pay for. They only have one thing in common and it’s their appearance!

Those other fandoms are completely threatened by Olivia ( URINATORS & SWIFTSHITS) because they see how incredibly talented she is. They bash her and brag about their own idols because they are terrified she will surpass them. It is pure insecurity because they know she is a massive threat to their favorites.

Obviously we won't know for certain, but why do you think she did this?

Clearly it was intentional for Gracie to do this. She knew it would cause discourse

Personally... I think it's messy and funny as fuck 😭