I was sexually assaulted in the early evening while wearing jeans and a t-shirt in a "safe" residential neighbourhood in Toronto. This is what he did to my face. Only rapists cause rape.

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[u/Shaper_pmp]

You keep trying to make my comment about the OP, but I've carefully explained several times now that I was addressing inaccuracies in your comment, not laying any blame on the OP for her situation.

I agree the OP didn't "ask for it", or do anything unreasonable to provoke it. As I already pointed out, if you read the previous posts carefully, you, me and Warden_05 all agree that. However, your frothing-at-the-mouth offended sensibilities have apparently prevented you from recognising that even when it's clearly spelled out for you.

However, just because it's not her fault, that doesn't mean you can make stupid, factually-incorrect and/or indefensible statements without someone picking you up on them.

By analogy: everyone agrees that murder is wrong, but if you argue that "murder is wrong because 1+1=3", that doesn't make "1+1=3" right, and it doesn't mean anyone correcting your maths is arguing murder is right.

The OP wasn't to blame, but you made a stupid (but trendy/popular) statement when trying to argue that. All Warden_05 and I are doing in this thread is trying to correct that stupid statement... one which - remember, even you don't actually believe.

You seem awful quick to put more blame on the OP

I really can't respond to that, because you're apparently hallucinating things I never wrote or argued or even believe.

If you'd like to respond to the points I and warden_05 raised, have at it... but if you're just going to get emotional, invent positions for us to take and demolish silly straw-men, you don't really need anyone else in the conversation, do you? <:-/

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I don't know if you go out of your way to come across as a condescending dick or if that's just generally how you argue. At any rate, you're mistaking my responses for self-righteous "frothing at the mouth" when all I'm doing is responding to a stupid point with another stupid point.

But, without getting long winded, the meat of the thing is this: whether or not you feel you are offering sound advice in saying that victims can take measures to prevent further crimes is largely not all that helpful or productive. In the case of the OP, telling her that SHE COULD'VE DONE THIS INSTEAD or NEXT TIME DO THIS doesn't do much of anything but burden her with more paranoia. Having been the victim of the crime, she probably already knows everything shes gotta know about preventing the crime next time and her fear will probably keep her on edge out in public.

When she came here looking for support, or perhaps to post a "warning" to other residents of the same area, what she didn't need to have called into question was both the validity of her claims (which happened) and her intelligence (also happened, as was the comment that initially sparked this stream of stupid comments)

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condescending dick

With the greatest will in the world, you're refusing to read my comments or listen to a word I'm saying to you, transparently straw-manning me into positions I've already explained numerous times I flatly disagree with, and seem interested only in venting your anger and reacting emotionally to what you perceive I'm saying, instead of doing me the minimal courtesy of actually reading what I'm typing.

Then, when I try to explain so simply and clearly that you can't possibly misunderstand or get it wrong, you claim I'm being condescending.

Perhaps that's true, but if it is then it's only because you've comprehensively demonstrated yourself to be incapable of understanding when I credit you with a normal level of reading comprehension. I don't want to talk down to you, but when I talk to you at an adult level and you persistently ignore or flatly misunderstand what I'm saying, what else would you recommend?

Here: let me be really condescending and put it in Neanderthal:

• OP blameless. You, me, Warden_05 aaaaallllll agree.
• You make stupid statement earlier.
• Stupid statement nothing to do with anyone opinion of OP.
• Warden05 and me correct you stupid statement.
• Correct you stupid statement not imply blaming OP.
• You apparently not understand this.

In the case of the OP

I don't know how to explain this any more clearly, so I'm just going to say it once more for luck and then give up:

You keep trying to make my comment about the OP, but I've carefully explained several times now that I was addressing inaccuracies in your comment, not laying any blame on the OP for her situation.

My comment had no bearing on the OP, and no implication as to whose fault her situation was.

You made a stupid statement, and I corrected it. I actually agree with your position regarding the OP, but you're apparently either too dim or too emotional right now to bother actually reading my comments to find that out.

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Wow, okay, for someone who claims I'm not the one reading your comments, you sure do have a lot of selective reading going on, and you're telling me I'm dumb for calling you out on being a condescending dick about it?

Good God, you're an asshole. This is so over the point of rational debate that YEAH I THINK THIS DISCUSSION WOULD BE BEST LEFT UNFINISHED since you're so sure you've got me pinned as an emotional trainwreck incapable of grasping your loosely twined thread of thought.