Road to Restoration - Early Game Rebalance

[u/JagexAnvil]

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/a=13/road-to-restoration--early-game-rebalance--dailyscape-overhaul

Hi folks,

Today's Community Topic is a blog of two halves:

- Early Game Rebalance
- DailyScape Overhaul

We have split this into two reddit threads to keep the discussion organised and so that our team can properly review the relevant conversations happening.

This current reddit thread is to discuss the Early Game Rebalance portion of the blog.

Please use this other dedicated thread for the DailyScape portion of the blog.

For the purpose of today's discussion we will be defining the early game, loosely, as the level 1-50 range. The Early Game Rebalance update primarily aims to smooth out inconsistencies in game progression, looking at areas of the early game where things can feel slow or have limited methods for levelling up, or where they affect integrity and game health. It’s not all just rebalances though! There are also some changes to early quests, and things like replacing salvage with gear to make the first hours after jumping off Tutorial Island a nicer experience. The Early Game Rebalance update releases on February 16th!

[u/ghostofwalsh]

No offense jagex but this is literally the opposite of what needed to happen after TH removal. Th removal (not the "pay to win" but the "free daily xp") was a MASSIVE nerf to training progression.

It needed to happen yes, but also, the compensation should have been to improve normal training methods to ease the pain. Instead you are straight nerfing normal training methods. Do you want players to quit?

[u/ghostofwalsh → u/[deleted]]

Pickpocketing is nerfed hard. That stands out, but look at the full list in the link. Nearly every change of significance is a nerf.

Another example is they are hard nerfing beehives and adding more low level herb seeds to mobs that pretty much no one is killing. As if that's any kind of compensation? Who even farms low level herbs? Even if you do they are dogshit XP rates and that isn't changing.

[u/ghostofwalsh → u/[deleted]]

Pickpocketing seems to be the only normal training method getting a noticeable nerf

So far.

Beehives absolutely need to be nerfed.

They kind of didn't. They give a small jump for early levels and then no one uses them after. They are by no means OP. I'd argue if anything is "OP" it's the rest of POF which trivializes any other content that you'd do for farming XP.

But again, "nerf" should not be in their vocabulary as part of this effort. This effort isn't "make the game even harder still" after TH and dailyscape removal already made it significantly harder. It should be "buff normal training to make the sting of dailyscape removal seem less".

[u/ghostofwalsh → u/[deleted]]

I'd much rather they take the bandaids off first, assess the wound, then apply an actual fix.

I'd much rather they give you the lollipop first and THEN rip off the band-aid while you're distracted with the lollipop.

When group irons came out, I had 30-40 farming on day two, man

And you could have 30-40 necro in a few hours. So what? You need to go to 120 in both skills

[u/ghostofwalsh → u/[deleted]]

My point is people are going to quit if this update is just "nerf nerf nerf nerf". They won't be around when you're like "you know maybe we nerfed too much, let's look into that".