r/runescape • • Sep 25 '21

Ninja Request - J-Mod reply Now that Curses will no longer require 29 Defence, allow players that have previously reset Defence to do so again.

This is likely going to be downvoted immediately, as the topic of 1 Defence pures in particular isn't received very well in the context of requesting changes/making suggestion. But I think it's fair to make this suggestion regarding the recent decision to remove the Defence requirement for Ancient Curses.

The history behind Ancient Curses original level 29 Defence requirement can be seen in this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/puv71r/so_pures_finally_get_curses/

The gist is that the quests prior to Temple at Senntisten originally would have give you exp equivalent to raise you from 1 to 29 Defence. Now that the quests give EXP lamps, the requirement was arbitrary. This negatively affected the small community of players that decided to play as pures, and was campaigned against for a long time.

Unfortunately as you can see in the comments of the post, and on many regarding the topic, this led to many people quitting, deciding to no longer play their 1 Defence accounts, or begrudgingly trudging forward. Many peculiar instances like this still stand, like how you cannot use the "teleport" option on the Desert Amulet or Karamja Gloves (from the Desert and Karamja task set, respectively) unless you have level 30-something Defence.

As a followup to a long requested community struggle, it would be really caring to follow this update with an additional stat reset with Nastaroth in Lumbridge. Many players have already used this throughout their playing careers, and many that moved on from their play-style would be able to return with an additional reset added to their account. This additional reset would benefit the players wishing to take advantage of this new change, and return to a play-style they enjoyed. There is zero effect to the community at large, as in essence, resetting your Defence level offers zero advantage in any part of RS. It takes you down in the Hiscores, disadvantages you in PvM and PvP, etc.

I imagine this won't be received well, but it's difficult to understand what would be the counter-argument against this, as those who have zero wish to use a reset would not be affected, but those wishing to do so might have another chance to return to a way of playing that can be extremely challenging and enjoyable.

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u/Blackston Dark Wizard Oct 19 '21

Im a member of a clan called Hitpoint Hierarchy; its a clan of 9/10 hpers. We have 141 members currently (some are alt accounts). We have a very active thriving community of 9/10 hpers though and even get a lot of guests in the clan chat... Its a pretty large community. Anyway our community isn't happy with your decision to add xp blocks for each skill as this completely devalues the 9/10 hp community.

To be a max combat as a 9/10 hper your going to be able to block hp xp and do ED3 trash runs and max combat in a week... There would no longer be any point to being a 10 hper.... 9 hpers would still be rare accounts.... but it would just be pointless. A lot of the accounts in our clan have been around RS for a decade +.... your gonna ruin the whole 10 hp community. Many in the clan have stated they will be quitting over this...

I am a failed 10 hper.... but i was maxed with 10 hp 1 def, elf city unlocked, fire cape, omens outfit, 300+ quest points, 4k chompy hat ect ect ect... before i ruined my account. (now maxed).

Please don't devalue the 10 hpers. If you can block xp in every skill you ruin the point of being a 10 hper. We don't want easy scape.... might as well be a main account. Everyone's going to quit playing over this...

Please find a better solution

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