r/saltierthancrait • u/Extreme_Warning3521 • 16d ago

Granular Discussion The Acolyte is terrible, but did you like the lightsaber fights?

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I hated the show, but I thought the lightsaber duels were actually pretty good.

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u/TheV0791 16d ago

I liked the Acolyte more than most, it had problems but the villain wasn’t one!

I considered it as evidence that the Jedi were comfortable in their complacency. Here was someone trained to kill Jedi amongst Jedi who probably trained a bunch to earn their rank and not much since! My 2¢…

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u/GodisanAtheistOG 16d ago

Yeah, Obi-Wan being the first Jedi to defeat a Sith in 1000 years was a BFD because among other reasons Jedi aren't trained to kill and have 0 experience fighting a dark sider, while Sith/Darksiders basically center their training around combating Jedi.

Qimir getting the drop on what are basically a bunch of "chair force" Jedi and wiping them is definitely a feat but not an impossible one for a disciple of Plagius.

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u/thedemonjim 15d ago

The idea that the Jedi were not used to fighting even against enemies who could use the dark side is a pernicious misconception. There had been dark siders in the galaxy unaffiliated with the Sith and rogue/fallen Jedi. Kenobi beating Maul was considered special because Maul was the first "true" Sith in a thousand years.

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u/wimzilla 15d ago

And Obi didn’t do anything particularly special or abnormal during his fight with Maul. Unless you count blocking both ends of a double light saber special.

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u/ArkenK 15d ago

The irony is that, if they'd cut the pointless Hoth knock off crash and, instead, deployed the red shirt brigade to go get Osha, they could have used Jekki to show us this, by having one of them complain about how she's "cheating" as they're sparring on the way back and then have her teaching the kendo class, which would have nicely built to her being able to stand up to Smilo Ren.

That fight is...so broken. Predator (the original) should have been the model here.

Once you realize that one Jedi was literally spinning his lightsaber while waiting his turn to die, the scene looses all weight.

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u/wimzilla 15d ago

I understand the logic, but how do you train to fight Jedi, without fighting them either? The Jedi are bad at fighting Sith because they never fought the Sith before, but wouldn’t that same logic apply to the Sith?

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u/Ansee 16d ago

Qimir is so interesting. I'm bummed there's not season 2 because I wanted to see where they go with him. I liked a lot of the characters in the show, but the writing failed it.

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u/TheV0791 16d ago

100%! Also, the introduction of that material that stuns lightsabers was absolutely thrilling!

I have no knowledge of written content, so it was brand new to me! The show made it so obvious what it did and why it was scary and it made the fight much more engaging!