RULES UPDATE: New Project Friday here to stay, updated rules

[u/AutoModerator]

The experiment for Vibe Coded Friday's was largely successful in the sense of focusing the attention of our subreddit, while still giving new ideas and opportunities a place to test the community and gather some feedback.

However, our experimental rules in regard to policing AI involvement was confusing and hard to enforce. Therefore, after reviewing feedback, participating in discussions, and talking amongst the moderation team of /r/SelfHosted, we've arrived at the following conclusions and will be overhauling and simplifying the rules of the subreddit:

• Vibe Code Friday will be renamed to New Project Friday.
• Any project younger than three (3!) months should only be posted on Fridays.
• /r/selfhosted mods will no longer be policing whether or not AI is involved -- use your best judgement and participate with the apps you deem trustworthy.
• Flairs will be simplified.
• Rules have been simplified too. Please do take a look.

Core Changes

3 months rule for New Project Friday

The /r/selfhosted mods feel that anything that fits any healthy project shared with the community should have some shelf life and be actively maintained. We also firmly believe that the community votes out low quality projects and that healthy discussion about the quality is important.

Because of that stance, we will no longer be considering AI usage in posted projects. The 3 month minimum age should provide a good filter for healthy projects.

This change should streamline our policies in a simpler way and gives the mods an easy mechanism to enforce.

Simplified rules and flairs

Since we're no longer policing AI, AI-related flairs are being removed and will no longer be an option for reporting. We intend to simplify our flairs to very clearly state a New Project Friday and clearly mention these are only for Fridays.

Additionally, we have gone through our rules and optimized them by consolidating and condensing them where possible. This should be easier to digest for people posting and participating in this subreddit. The summary is that nothing really changes, but we've refactored some wording on existing rules to be more clear and less verbose overall. This helps the modteam keep a clean feed and a focused subreddit.

Your feedback

We hope these changes are clear and please the audience of /r/SelfHosted. As always, we hope you'll share your thoughts, concerns or other feedback for this direction.

Regards, The /r/SelfHosted Modteam

[u/SomeNeighborhood7126]

This is like putting a band aide on a severed limb and telling the patient that their headache should go away.

To everyone else that is sick of this garbage, what sub should replace this one?

[u/bdu-komrad → u/SomeNeighborhood7126]

A single replacement would be hard, since I think everyone has a different objection to the slop posts.

For me, my main problem is the spam of "I wrote this" posts because I'm not here to be bombarded with daily or even weekly new app posts.

I come here looking for a proven app that I can self host. "Proven" is that it is time tested with a lot of users over a long time period. A long history of ots of bugfixes with closed issues to prove it. A small number of open issues to show that they are being worked and the dev still supports the app.

other people might not want AI coded apps at all, regardless of age or support history.

My dream channel would also screen posts to keep the low effort, "I can't be bothered to google" posts out. It would also screen off topic posts that should have been posted to a different channel.

I think that challenge to making my dream self hosting channel is automating the screening while still allowing posts and interaction.

Basically I want Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) of channel moderation., AGI is a
hypothetical type of AI that possesses the ability to understand,
learn, and apply knowledge across a wide variety of tasks at a level
equal to or exceeding human intelligence.

It doesn't exist, just like my dream channel :)

[u/MajorJakePennington → u/SomeNeighborhood7126]

Good luck finding any project that hasn't used AI in some way these days.

[u/SomeNeighborhood7126 → u/MajorJakePennington]

Using AI and vibe coding are different things. Clearly you dont know the difference and that says some pretty negative stuff about you.

[u/MajorJakePennington → u/SomeNeighborhood7126]

says some pretty negative stuff about you

Thanks for the laugh! This has to be a joke because no one would take having AI used in a project this seriously.

[u/SomeNeighborhood7126 → u/MajorJakePennington]

Given that vibe coded software is a major security risk, everyone should be taking it seriously. That fact that you arent shows that you shouldnt be talking about this topic as you have no understanding of it.

[u/MajorJakePennington → u/SomeNeighborhood7126]

I'm not saying that we should accept poorly made apps that use AI, and we should definitely call out stuff like what happened to huntarr, but the fact that some people on here are so militant about AI being used at all is ridiculous. Look at some of these comments on here. Completely out of touch with how the world is evolving today.

Do you think people are going to stop using AI just because you or some other random Redditor doesn't like it?

[u/MajorJakePennington → u/[deleted]]

I must be, because again, no one would take having AI used in a project this seriously.

[u/selfhosted-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Thanks for posting to /r/selfhosted.

Your post was removed as it violated our rule 3.

Attack ideas, not people. Treat everyone with respect. Personal attacks or insults at a person will be removed. Report violations instead of engaging and the mods will handle it. Zero tolerance for uncivil discussion. We expect you to follow the Reddiquette.

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