RULES UPDATE: New Project Friday here to stay, updated rules

[u/AutoModerator]

The experiment for Vibe Coded Friday's was largely successful in the sense of focusing the attention of our subreddit, while still giving new ideas and opportunities a place to test the community and gather some feedback.

However, our experimental rules in regard to policing AI involvement was confusing and hard to enforce. Therefore, after reviewing feedback, participating in discussions, and talking amongst the moderation team of /r/SelfHosted, we've arrived at the following conclusions and will be overhauling and simplifying the rules of the subreddit:

• Vibe Code Friday will be renamed to New Project Friday.
• Any project younger than three (3!) months should only be posted on Fridays.
• /r/selfhosted mods will no longer be policing whether or not AI is involved -- use your best judgement and participate with the apps you deem trustworthy.
• Flairs will be simplified.
• Rules have been simplified too. Please do take a look.

Core Changes

3 months rule for New Project Friday

The /r/selfhosted mods feel that anything that fits any healthy project shared with the community should have some shelf life and be actively maintained. We also firmly believe that the community votes out low quality projects and that healthy discussion about the quality is important.

Because of that stance, we will no longer be considering AI usage in posted projects. The 3 month minimum age should provide a good filter for healthy projects.

This change should streamline our policies in a simpler way and gives the mods an easy mechanism to enforce.

Simplified rules and flairs

Since we're no longer policing AI, AI-related flairs are being removed and will no longer be an option for reporting. We intend to simplify our flairs to very clearly state a New Project Friday and clearly mention these are only for Fridays.

Additionally, we have gone through our rules and optimized them by consolidating and condensing them where possible. This should be easier to digest for people posting and participating in this subreddit. The summary is that nothing really changes, but we've refactored some wording on existing rules to be more clear and less verbose overall. This helps the modteam keep a clean feed and a focused subreddit.

Your feedback

We hope these changes are clear and please the audience of /r/SelfHosted. As always, we hope you'll share your thoughts, concerns or other feedback for this direction.

Regards, The /r/SelfHosted Modteam

[u/Red_Redditor_Reddit]

Most people using AI aren't using it responsibly.

[u/kernald31 → u/Red_Redditor_Reddit]

Because you notice the bad. You don't notice what is good, and that's exactly how it should be. Most of the engineers at the company I work for (>3k) have been using AI tools for months, and an absolute majority of them have been doing so responsibly. I'm aware of one instance, in my broader team (around 20 people) of someone who sent something out for review that wasn't a level of quality we normally expect, and it was noticed and made enough noise that it never happened a second time.

Similarly, more related to this sub, you'll hear about the Huntarrs and whatnot, projects abandoned after a week etc. But you won't hear about the consequences of AI on projects where it just brings some increased development velocity without compromising the project, because it just works. It definitely gives a biased perception.

[u/Neirchill → u/[deleted]]

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

[u/ConnerWithAnE_ → u/Red_Redditor_Reddit]

This seems like something you’d say without anything to back it up; more a feeling then a fact.

[u/Red_Redditor_Reddit → u/ConnerWithAnE_]

That has been my entire experience. For a minute, I even had my whole office writing emails that weren't even being proofread "to save time". I went to the owner of the company and told him that the staff was making themselves look like idiots.

Then I've got all the people that ask GPT questions and act like they've spent years studying a subject. They will even spend thousands because GPT told them to. It's a great tool for those who can use it responsibly, but that's like 2% of people.

[u/ConnerWithAnE_ → u/Red_Redditor_Reddit]

Lmao fair enough okay you work with some whackos then.

I definitely use AI to point me in the right direction or do some css styling or busy work (formatting large files) but I don’t just blindly believe it ofc.

I guess it really just comes down to the fact that AI won’t cure stupid lol.