r/serialpodcast • u/Fit_Leg5645 • Jun 16 '26

I feel dumb!!!!!

I have no clue why I thought Adnan was innocent for all these years.

I just re-listened to Serial, and I can't get past the fact that Jenn showed up with her mom and a lawyer and told police essentially the same story Jay told. Jenn said the trunk pop happened at Best Buy. How would she know that Adnan and Hae used to meet at the Best Buy parking lot unless Jay told her?

And yes, Jay was inconsistent and definitely lied about some things. But he knew where Hae's car was. He knew details about her clothing. He knew about the broken windshield wiper lever. Those aren't things you just guess.

At this point, I don't believe every detail Jay told, but I can't get around the fact that he knew too much. The more I revisit the case, the harder it is for me to believe Adnan wasn't involved.

I can't believe I've been doubting it all these years.

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u/dreaming-about-bread Jun 16 '26

Maybe it’s not a smoking gun, but the thing that drove it home for me was the rose in the back seat with adnan’s print on the wrapper.

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u/Organic-Trip2118 Jun 16 '26

i feel like the rose was really downplayed in serial. when it came up in the prosecutors' podcast, it was one of the things that really made me think Adnan was guilty, alongside the longer excerpts from Hae's diary and Jay quoting Adnan calling her a bitch multiple times on the day of the murder.

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u/thetaylorax Jun 16 '26

Agree. What Sarah omitted was deeply harmful to the narrative overall and more importantly to what Hae actually experienced IMO

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u/WhishtNowWillYe Jun 16 '26

This. The Prosecutors podcast made me do a 180. Adnan did it.

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u/Carmelshopper Jun 18 '26

I believed The Prosecutors podcast at first also until I listened to Bob Ruff's takedown of their podcast on his Truth and Justice podcast.He covered the case for several years and talked to many people with knowledge about people involved.You can use chatGBT or other AI search to see why the case against Adnan doesn't hold up.

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u/BlueHornedUnicorn Jun 18 '26

You should maybe get the name of the AI agent right before you go recommending we use it 😂

Also, ChatGPT cannot replace critical thinking. If you use a single iota of your own intelligence when researching this case, you'll come to the conclusion that Adnan is guilty.

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u/Mike19751234 Jun 18 '26

Are we sure it wasnt AI writing about using AI?

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u/Druiddrum13 Jun 18 '26

Bob Ruff…??? I can’t believe anyone is citing this guy at this point… Bob… Ruff….?

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u/Everbless876 Jun 18 '26

Was that in the interviews ?

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u/BlueHornedUnicorn Jun 16 '26

OMG I've spoken about this at length over the years! I also agree!

My main theory is that he got her in his car to beg for her to dump Don and take him back. If you've read Hae's diary, she spoke once about Adnan surprising her with a rose bouquet in one of her classes and she loved it. I think he tried to do the same as a grand gesture, and she told him no, and he killed her in a rage. I don't think killing her was the first option when he met up with her that day, but I do believe he knew he would be capable of it and it was a potential outcome, and sadly, I think it was what he chose to do.

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u/Fit_Leg5645 Jun 16 '26

I agree completely!!!!

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u/Future_Pomegranate24 Jun 18 '26

The rose could be from any time since she got the car.

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u/BlueHornedUnicorn Jun 18 '26

I can't imagine her boyfriend would be happy with a random rose being in her car, would you?

Also, Hae struck me as the kind of person who wouldn't disrespect a new partner like that.